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Two systems, 0 for 53 drawings

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Posted: September 2, 2006, 10:57 pm - IP Logged

There were two systems I bought way before emily g invited me here, I just ran them for 53 drawings and thought I'd post the results.

The first I'm pretty sure was from Steve Player, one of the lower priced ones, called the Pyramid System for Pick 3. You take the last drawing and reduce it to the lowest series, i.e.  421 would become 124.

You then look up 124 and it looks like this 

1*2*4

  9*7

    3                                            


So the next play would be 193 and 473.

53 drawings, no hits.

 

The other system was from Win-Trak in New Jersey and is called a Delta Diamond system. Somewhat similar to the above, but there's a pyramid opn top of an inverted pyramid and you take last nights draw, digit by digit, to get 3 combos for the next draw.

There's one of these for every digit:

        0

4_________ 3

 \              /

        6

 

So if the first digit in last night's pick 3 was zero, you would use

6

4

for the first digits of your next play, look up the second and third digits, and do the same. So you're next picks might look like

3 2 7

6 4 1

9 0 3 

Once again, 0 for 53 drawings....and comsidering this was giving you 3 combos per drawing, that's actually 0 for 159. There were times that if you "tic tac toed" the 3 indicated combos you would have had 2 out of 3, but that's as close as it got.

This Delta Diamond system also has the same format for Pick 4 and Pick 5 (believe it or else). Since no Pick 3 hit I didn't test the Pick 4 or Pick 5.  

I'm not running software or anything, just paper and pencil, drawing by drawing.  My live bets were usually a $1 straight box and a 50 cents striaght or boc on one or two of the combos, but nada, zip, zilch.

Had I been wheeling the combos it would have still been nada but a bigger number in the loss column. 

Just an FYI folks.  Maybe this will save somone here a penny or two.

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    Posted: September 2, 2006, 11:49 pm - IP Logged

    Thanks for giving us this info. I always wonder how some of these "systems" fare. I'm familiar with both you mentioned here and appreciate the honesty, Coin Toss. Thanks!! 

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      Posted: September 5, 2006, 12:34 am - IP Logged

      Thanks lottolaughs

      For most of that time I was also tracking +2  -2, it had the same results, 0 for 53.  I still wonder about that one because if tonight's draw has a doulbe, adding or subtracting 2 (lotto math) calls for another double.

      I didn't see that happen, let alone the "right" numbers hitting.  

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        Posted: September 5, 2006, 12:54 am - IP Logged

        thanks for sharing.  tried the steve player - results were dismal.

        love to nibble those micey feet.

         

                                     

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          Posted: September 17, 2006, 6:49 pm - IP Logged


          I originally posted this Sep 2 so add 15 drawings (Eve) to the 53 and that makes 65....

           The "Double Delta" one actually spit out a winner last night:

          Indicated from the previous draw 084 

          301

          418

          649

          Illinois Eve Pick 3  

          841 

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            I originally posted this Sep 2 so add 15 drawings (Eve) to the 53 and that makes 65....

             The "Double Delta" one actually spit out a winner last night:

            Indicated from the previous draw 084 

            301

            418

            649

            Illinois Eve Pick 3  

            841 

            So the "Delta" system basically adds, +3+2+7, +4+3+4, +6+6+5 to your previous draw? Don't mind me, I'm just being nosy!    Wink    But also curious how some of his systems work. I bought one for pick 5 and wasn't too happy with it either. You have to have 3 of the correct numbers to begin with to make it work!

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              Posted: September 20, 2006, 2:31 am - IP Logged


              lottolaughs

              No, it's not that consistent at all. That sequence just happend for that particular draw.

              There's "double pyramids" (deltas) for each digit, all have different +'s and  - 's. 

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                Posted: September 20, 2006, 9:15 am - IP Logged

                Thanks, Coin Toss. Have you ever taken this sytem and tooled around with it to make it more user friendly for yourself? I've heard say that lots of people have to do that to get it to work, any of his systems, that is.

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                  Posted: September 20, 2006, 10:49 am - IP Logged

                   Good thought! Looking at the single pyramid one to reply to this I just realized (give me a duh!) that  it assumes the first or last digit from the last drawing will repeat.

                  That happens, sure - but not as often as this sytem calls for.  

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                    Posted: September 20, 2006, 11:27 am - IP Logged

                    Now you might be getting somewhere! Sometimes it's worth taking a second look. Might as well try, at least, no? Keep us posted on what you might come up with, Coin Toss. You've got my attention!!  Big Smile 

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                      Posted: September 22, 2006, 2:18 am - IP Logged


                      OK, let me rethink that about the first or last digit from the previous drawing repeating the next draw. 

                      (Illinois evening pick 3)

                      For the last 82 draws, that happened 39 times, or 47.56% of the time. At first it didn;t look like it ws happening, only had happend 4 times out of the first 14, but then it would hit a run where it happened 10 times out of 17. 

                      So let's say it is something to be aware of.  

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                        Posted: October 7, 2006, 11:45 pm - IP Logged


                        UPDATE!

                        OK, since I last posted this (Sep 22) I've seen this:

                        The first or last digit from the previous drawing (Il EVE Pick3) repeat 47% of the time. One of the digits from the previous drawing repeat 76% of the time.

                        For the "Double delta" system what follows has happened 26% of the time:

                        (not actual chart figures)

                        say the previous drawing was 123.

                        Using the 'double deltas' you get 

                        481

                        126

                        317

                        What I've been seeing is 26% of the time the next drawing's winner is in that 3 X 3 box, but anywhere in that box. In the example above let's say the next night's drawing is 823. 

                        So

                        481

                        126

                        317 

                        I don't know the formula to tell you how many combnations are possible for a 3 X 3 but I'm sure someone here can.

                        In all of this since I put this thread up, once the above type box spit out the next night's winner "right from the top", in the above example it would have been 481.  

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                          COIN TOSS,

                          Very nice post. I live in Illionis too, and only play at the local store. Notice I said "PLAY" because I havn't won yet and I am still searching the post here for help, Illinois help to be specfic!! What have you found out about our game that might help us newbies in Illinois?? Also, it seems that sometime, weekends they switch the ball sets so just when you think you got a winner, BAMM!! NOPE. I want to try this the Delta method if you think its good for Illionis?? Also, If you have extra info to share about Illinois that dosen't fit the thread, please PM me??

                          THANKS AGAIN!!

                           

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                            Posted: October 9, 2006, 1:42 am - IP Logged


                            ZEN

                            Go to Lottery Systems and look for lottolaughs' Pick 3 workouts....

                             Here's one:

                            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/142698 

                             Here's another, a little more complicated:

                            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/142297 

                             I think we're more likely to hit something with one of those than thsi delta system

                            Good luck!