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Pick 3 - Consec, Evens, Odds Combos

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Posted: September 16, 2006, 2:06 pm - IP Logged

I think you can omit the

consecutives and still do

fine.

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    Posted: September 16, 2006, 3:23 pm - IP Logged

    If there is a risk of the draws going out 46, that could be a risky financial venture. Aren't each of these groups supposed to hit every 17 draws? Usually my benchmark is at least 3 times average, but that would bring us to 51, which is past the max that we've seen, correct?

    The OEC group represents the 60 odds, the 60 evens, and the 60 consecutives all combined into one large group of 180 straights.  This combined group should average 1 hit per every 5.56 games over the long term...1000 ÷ 180 = 5.56.

    Each of the three groups by themselves should hit an average of once every 17 draws over the long term: 1000 ÷ 60 = 16.66.

    All the data I posted dealt with tracking the 3 groups as one large combined group, so whenever one of the 3 smaller groups hit it just counted as a hit for the larger group.  The larger group has had a few skips of greater than 40, yes....but it's extremely rare!  Of the three states I tested, the skip only made it out to more than 40 games a total of 6 times....and thats for a combined total of 32,924 games.

    In the three states I tested, the large group made it out to 20 games without a hit 111 times.  Of those 111 times, the hit came sometime within the next ten games 103 times - leaving only 8 instances of skips higher than 30.

    When tracking the smaller groups of 60 numbers individually, there will definitely be skips greater than 51...and less frequently, times when its over 100.

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      The OEC group represents the 60 odds, the 60 evens, and the 60 consecutives all combined into one large group of 180 straights.  This combined group should average 1 hit per every 5.56 games over the long term...1000 ÷ 180 = 5.56.

      Each of the three groups by themselves should hit an average of once every 17 draws over the long term: 1000 ÷ 60 = 16.66.

      All the data I posted dealt with tracking the 3 groups as one large combined group, so whenever one of the 3 smaller groups hit it just counted as a hit for the larger group.  The larger group has had a few skips of greater than 40, yes....but it's extremely rare!  Of the three states I tested, the skip only made it out to more than 40 games a total of 6 times....and thats for a combined total of 32,924 games.

      In the three states I tested, the large group made it out to 20 games without a hit 111 times.  Of those 111 times, the hit came sometime within the next ten games 103 times - leaving only 8 instances of skips higher than 30.

      When tracking the smaller groups of 60 numbers individually, there will definitely be skips greater than 51...and less frequently, times when its over 100.

      Thank you for those statistics, Thoth!

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        Posted: September 16, 2006, 3:44 pm - IP Logged

        Saturday - Eve Charts

        I should add the TOP 3 numbers are highlighted in RED (Draws Out)

        Looking for 2 to 3 states with 20 or more draws out in all 3 Groups

        No-Match Combos

        Group1 = Consecutives

        Group 2 = Evens

        Group 3 = Odd

         

        GROUP

        GROUP

        GROUP

        ALL

        EVE

        1

        2

        3

        GROUPS

        1

        AZ

        7

        5

        21

        5

        2

        CA

        28

        2

        5

        2

        3

        CT

        26

        10

        54

        10

        4

        DE

        2

        24

        1

        1

        5

        FL

        15

        11

        3

        3

        6

        GA

        4

        7

        8

        4

        7

        ID

        16

        18

        32

        16

        8

        IL

        10

        1

        13

        1

        9

        IN

        35

        22

        9

        9

        10

        KS

        11

        53

        2

        2

        11

        KY

        33

        8

        11

        8

        12

        LA

        36

        1

        13

        1

        13

        MD

        2

        4

        15

        2

        14

        MI

        68

        25

        5

        5

        15

        MN

        5

        21

        10

        5

        16

        MO

        21

        26

        5

        5

        17

        NE

        17

        2

        14

        2

        18

        NJ

        14

        20

        58

        14

        19

        NM

        14

        1

        6

        1

        20

        NY

        2

        5

        22

        2

        21

        OH

        30

        6

        20

        6

        22

        OK

        33

        6

        46

        6

        23

        ONT

        2

        8

        15

        2

        24

        PA

        32

        54

        23

        23

        25

        QUE

        1

        65

        19

        1

        26

        SC

        3

        8

        34

        3

        27

        TN

        41

        3

        32

        3

        28

        TX

        15

        41

        11

        11

        29

        TS

        2

        22

        3

        2

        30

        VA

        22

        9

        42

        9

        31

        WA

        32

        16

        75

        16

        32

        DC

        26

        13

        5

        5

        33

        WV

        58

        2

        16

        2

        34

        WC

        26

        47

        3

        3

        35

        WI

        20

        36

        30

        20

        I'd bet that Pennsylvania or Wisconsin will show a hit in one of the three groups sometime within the next 5 games.  Actually, I kinda expect to see either PA hit within the next 2 games OR WI to hit within the next 5.

        ~Probability=Odds in Motion~

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          Posted: September 16, 2006, 4:04 pm - IP Logged

          Thehighest skip ever, in my database, is 51 draws, for those 180 straight numbers.

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            Posted: September 16, 2006, 4:14 pm - IP Logged

            Thehighest skip ever, in my database, is 51 draws, for those 180 straight numbers.

            Here is some info on those numbers, calculated as box, but that does not matter if you just project them onto straight. (if it did not come in box, it surely did not come in straight lol) 

            PA
            All even nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 53 draws, av. skip 15.27 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 70 draws
            All odd nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 22 draws, av. skip 15.27 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 90 draws
            3 consecutive digit-numbers: current skip 31 draws, av. skip 18.02 draws, median skip 9 draws, highest skip ever was 83 draws

            WI
            All even nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 35 draws, av. skip 16.44 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 70 draws
            All odd nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 29 draws, av. skip 16.44 draws, median skip 13 draws, highest skip ever was 57 draws
            3 consecutive digit-numbers: current skip 19 draws, av. skip 16.81 draws, median skip 7 draws, highest skip ever was 92 draws

            WA
            All even nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 15 draws, av. skip 16.98 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 93 draws
            All odd nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 74 draws, av. skip 16.98 draws, median skip 12 draws, highest skip ever was 110 draws
            3 consecutive digit-numbers: current skip 31 draws, av. skip 18.02 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 134 draws

            ID
            All even nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 17 draws, av. skip 15.06 draws, median skip 8 draws, highest skip ever was 78 draws
            All odd nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 31 draws, av. skip 15.06 draws, median skip 12 draws, highest skip ever was 99 draws
            3 consecutive digit-numbers: current skip 15 draws, av. skip 16.76 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 111 draws
            (ID just had 2 "high" skips for All Even (no double/no triple), but somehow i like the 567 for tonight...)

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              Posted: September 16, 2006, 4:24 pm - IP Logged

              Thehighest skip ever, in my database, is 51 draws, for those 180 straight numbers.

              I only tested three states....the highest of the three was 51 in NJ. Which state are you showing 51 for?

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                I have no idea, Thoth.
                A new engine i'm building runs through all the draws for all the states and comes back with the highest skip, median skip, average skip, ...

                For NJ eve i only have a skip of 22 as highest, and for NJ midday the highest is 32 draws.
                It ofcourse also depends on the available draws-history one has.

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                  That's a lot of "jack" to put up for those numbers!

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                    I'd bet that Pennsylvania or Wisconsin will show a hit in one of the three groups sometime within the next 5 games.  Actually, I kinda expect to see either PA hit within the next 2 games OR WI to hit within the next 5.

                    Looks like Wisconsin had its hit tonight with 6-8-2, lets see if PA follows through tomorrow.

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                      Posted: September 20, 2006, 6:46 am - IP Logged

                      Wednesday 9/20- Midday 3 Group Charts - (Odds-Evens-Consecutives)

                       

                      GROUPGROUPGROUPALL
                      MID123GROUPS
                      1CA2482
                      2CT404233
                      3DE272844
                      4GA825148
                      5IL9733
                      6IN520185
                      7KY78213121
                      8MD232511
                      9MI14101510
                      10MO338133
                      11NJ351541
                      12NY338203
                      13OH5944
                      14PA31522
                      15SC13212813
                      16TN47224
                      17TX18585
                      18TS31911
                      19VA324322
                      20DC181141
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                        Wednesday - 9/20 - Evening Charts (EOC)

                         

                        GROUPGROUPGROUPALL
                        EVE123GROUPS
                        1AZ108248
                        2CA2692
                        3CT301433
                        4DE6151
                        5FL19171
                        6GA811128
                        7ID19213519
                        8IL25172
                        9IN393133
                        10KS35763
                        11KY371211
                        12LA402172
                        13MD6322
                        14MI72422
                        15MN92142
                        16MO253099
                        17NE20511
                        18NJ324623
                        19NM17494
                        20NY69266
                        21OH339239
                        22OK37105010
                        23ONT62192
                        24PA36582727
                        25QUE569235
                        26SC712387
                        27TN45744
                        28TX184433
                        29TS62676
                        30VA212452
                        31WA36207920
                        32DC301711
                        33WV35193
                        34WC35173
                        35WI241341
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                          It would be interesting to see if Idaho, Pennsylvania, and Washington State all reach minimum 20 or more draws out in all 3 Groups.

                          If they do, how many draws until 1 of the 3 states hit in any of the 3 Groups.

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                            It would be interesting to see if Idaho, Pennsylvania, and Washington State all reach minimum 20 or more draws out in all 3 Groups.

                            If they do, how many draws until 1 of the 3 states hit in any of the 3 Groups.

                            I dont think PA will make it another 5 games (for evening)....but there is a 94.904% chance that one of the three will hit within the next 5 games.

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                              Posted: September 21, 2006, 6:32 am - IP Logged

                              Thursday - Evening 9/22

                              Now we have 3 states out 20 skips or more in all 3 groups

                              Now let's see who hits first and how many draws it takes.

                              Tonight will be "Day 1"

                               

                              1AZ 11 9 1  1
                              2CA 3 7 10  3
                              3CT 1 15 4  1
                              4DE 1 2 6  1
                              5FL 20 2 8  2
                              6GA 9 12 13  9
                              7ID 20 22 36  20
                              8IL 3 6 18  3
                              9IN 40 4 14  4
                              10KS 4 58 7  4
                              11KY 38 1 2  1
                              12LA 41 3 18  3
                              13MD 7 4 3  3
                              14MI 73 5 3  3
                              15MN 10 3 15  3
                              16MO 26 31 10  10
                              17NE 21 6 2  2
                              18NJ 4 25 63  4
                              19NM 18 5 10  5
                              20NY 7 10 27  7
                              21OH 34 10 24  10
                              22OK 38 11 51  11
                              23ONT 7 3 20  3
                              24PA 37 59 28  28
                              25QUE 6 70 24  6
                              26SC 8 13 39  8
                              27TN 46 1 5  1
                              28TX 19 45 4  4
                              29TS 7 27 8  7
                              30VA 3 13 46  3
                              31WA 37 21 80  21
                              32DC 31 18 2  2
                              33WV 1 6 20  1
                              34WC 4 52 8  4
                              35WI 25 2 35  2