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# Pick 3 - Consec, Evens, Odds Combos

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I think you can omit the

consecutives and still do

fine.

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If there is a risk of the draws going out 46, that could be a risky financial venture. Aren't each of these groups supposed to hit every 17 draws? Usually my benchmark is at least 3 times average, but that would bring us to 51, which is past the max that we've seen, correct?

The OEC group represents the 60 odds, the 60 evens, and the 60 consecutives all combined into one large group of 180 straights.  This combined group should average 1 hit per every 5.56 games over the long term...1000 ÷ 180 = 5.56.

Each of the three groups by themselves should hit an average of once every 17 draws over the long term: 1000 ÷ 60 = 16.66.

All the data I posted dealt with tracking the 3 groups as one large combined group, so whenever one of the 3 smaller groups hit it just counted as a hit for the larger group.  The larger group has had a few skips of greater than 40, yes....but it's extremely rare!  Of the three states I tested, the skip only made it out to more than 40 games a total of 6 times....and thats for a combined total of 32,924 games.

In the three states I tested, the large group made it out to 20 games without a hit 111 times.  Of those 111 times, the hit came sometime within the next ten games 103 times - leaving only 8 instances of skips higher than 30.

When tracking the smaller groups of 60 numbers individually, there will definitely be skips greater than 51...and less frequently, times when its over 100.

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The OEC group represents the 60 odds, the 60 evens, and the 60 consecutives all combined into one large group of 180 straights.  This combined group should average 1 hit per every 5.56 games over the long term...1000 ÷ 180 = 5.56.

Each of the three groups by themselves should hit an average of once every 17 draws over the long term: 1000 ÷ 60 = 16.66.

All the data I posted dealt with tracking the 3 groups as one large combined group, so whenever one of the 3 smaller groups hit it just counted as a hit for the larger group.  The larger group has had a few skips of greater than 40, yes....but it's extremely rare!  Of the three states I tested, the skip only made it out to more than 40 games a total of 6 times....and thats for a combined total of 32,924 games.

In the three states I tested, the large group made it out to 20 games without a hit 111 times.  Of those 111 times, the hit came sometime within the next ten games 103 times - leaving only 8 instances of skips higher than 30.

When tracking the smaller groups of 60 numbers individually, there will definitely be skips greater than 51...and less frequently, times when its over 100.

Thank you for those statistics, Thoth!

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Saturday - Eve Charts

I should add the TOP 3 numbers are highlighted in RED (Draws Out)

Looking for 2 to 3 states with 20 or more draws out in all 3 Groups

No-Match Combos

Group1 = Consecutives

Group 2 = Evens

Group 3 = Odd

 GROUP GROUP GROUP ALL EVE 1 2 3 GROUPS 1 AZ 7 5 21 5 2 CA 28 2 5 2 3 CT 26 10 54 10 4 DE 2 24 1 1 5 FL 15 11 3 3 6 GA 4 7 8 4 7 ID 16 18 32 16 8 IL 10 1 13 1 9 IN 35 22 9 9 10 KS 11 53 2 2 11 KY 33 8 11 8 12 LA 36 1 13 1 13 MD 2 4 15 2 14 MI 68 25 5 5 15 MN 5 21 10 5 16 MO 21 26 5 5 17 NE 17 2 14 2 18 NJ 14 20 58 14 19 NM 14 1 6 1 20 NY 2 5 22 2 21 OH 30 6 20 6 22 OK 33 6 46 6 23 ONT 2 8 15 2 24 PA 32 54 23 23 25 QUE 1 65 19 1 26 SC 3 8 34 3 27 TN 41 3 32 3 28 TX 15 41 11 11 29 TS 2 22 3 2 30 VA 22 9 42 9 31 WA 32 16 75 16 32 DC 26 13 5 5 33 WV 58 2 16 2 34 WC 26 47 3 3 35 WI 20 36 30 20

I'd bet that Pennsylvania or Wisconsin will show a hit in one of the three groups sometime within the next 5 games.  Actually, I kinda expect to see either PA hit within the next 2 games OR WI to hit within the next 5.

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Thehighest skip ever, in my database, is 51 draws, for those 180 straight numbers.

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Thehighest skip ever, in my database, is 51 draws, for those 180 straight numbers.

Here is some info on those numbers, calculated as box, but that does not matter if you just project them onto straight. (if it did not come in box, it surely did not come in straight lol)

PA
All even nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 53 draws, av. skip 15.27 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 70 draws
All odd nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 22 draws, av. skip 15.27 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 90 draws
3 consecutive digit-numbers: current skip 31 draws, av. skip 18.02 draws, median skip 9 draws, highest skip ever was 83 draws

WI
All even nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 35 draws, av. skip 16.44 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 70 draws
All odd nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 29 draws, av. skip 16.44 draws, median skip 13 draws, highest skip ever was 57 draws
3 consecutive digit-numbers: current skip 19 draws, av. skip 16.81 draws, median skip 7 draws, highest skip ever was 92 draws

WA
All even nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 15 draws, av. skip 16.98 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 93 draws
All odd nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 74 draws, av. skip 16.98 draws, median skip 12 draws, highest skip ever was 110 draws
3 consecutive digit-numbers: current skip 31 draws, av. skip 18.02 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 134 draws

ID
All even nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 17 draws, av. skip 15.06 draws, median skip 8 draws, highest skip ever was 78 draws
All odd nbr (no doubles/no triples): current skip 31 draws, av. skip 15.06 draws, median skip 12 draws, highest skip ever was 99 draws
3 consecutive digit-numbers: current skip 15 draws, av. skip 16.76 draws, median skip 11 draws, highest skip ever was 111 draws
(ID just had 2 "high" skips for All Even (no double/no triple), but somehow i like the 567 for tonight...)

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Thehighest skip ever, in my database, is 51 draws, for those 180 straight numbers.

I only tested three states....the highest of the three was 51 in NJ. Which state are you showing 51 for?

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I have no idea, Thoth.
A new engine i'm building runs through all the draws for all the states and comes back with the highest skip, median skip, average skip, ...

For NJ eve i only have a skip of 22 as highest, and for NJ midday the highest is 32 draws.
It ofcourse also depends on the available draws-history one has.

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That's a lot of "jack" to put up for those numbers!

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I'd bet that Pennsylvania or Wisconsin will show a hit in one of the three groups sometime within the next 5 games.  Actually, I kinda expect to see either PA hit within the next 2 games OR WI to hit within the next 5.

Looks like Wisconsin had its hit tonight with 6-8-2, lets see if PA follows through tomorrow.

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Wednesday 9/20- Midday 3 Group Charts - (Odds-Evens-Consecutives)

 GROUP GROUP GROUP ALL MID 1 2 3 GROUPS 1 CA 2 4 8 2 2 CT 40 42 3 3 3 DE 27 28 4 4 4 GA 8 25 14 8 5 IL 9 7 3 3 6 IN 5 20 18 5 7 KY 78 21 31 21 8 MD 23 25 1 1 9 MI 14 10 15 10 10 MO 3 38 13 3 11 NJ 35 1 54 1 12 NY 3 38 20 3 13 OH 5 9 4 4 14 PA 3 15 2 2 15 SC 13 21 28 13 16 TN 4 7 22 4 17 TX 18 5 8 5 18 TS 3 1 91 1 19 VA 32 43 2 2 20 DC 18 1 14 1
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Wednesday - 9/20 - Evening Charts (EOC)

 GROUP GROUP GROUP ALL EVE 1 2 3 GROUPS 1 AZ 10 8 24 8 2 CA 2 6 9 2 3 CT 30 14 3 3 4 DE 6 1 5 1 5 FL 19 1 7 1 6 GA 8 11 12 8 7 ID 19 21 35 19 8 IL 2 5 17 2 9 IN 39 3 13 3 10 KS 3 57 6 3 11 KY 37 12 1 1 12 LA 40 2 17 2 13 MD 6 3 2 2 14 MI 72 4 2 2 15 MN 9 2 14 2 16 MO 25 30 9 9 17 NE 20 5 1 1 18 NJ 3 24 62 3 19 NM 17 4 9 4 20 NY 6 9 26 6 21 OH 33 9 23 9 22 OK 37 10 50 10 23 ONT 6 2 19 2 24 PA 36 58 27 27 25 QUE 5 69 23 5 26 SC 7 12 38 7 27 TN 45 7 4 4 28 TX 18 44 3 3 29 TS 6 26 7 6 30 VA 2 12 45 2 31 WA 36 20 79 20 32 DC 30 17 1 1 33 WV 3 5 19 3 34 WC 3 51 7 3 35 WI 24 1 34 1
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It would be interesting to see if Idaho, Pennsylvania, and Washington State all reach minimum 20 or more draws out in all 3 Groups.

If they do, how many draws until 1 of the 3 states hit in any of the 3 Groups.

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It would be interesting to see if Idaho, Pennsylvania, and Washington State all reach minimum 20 or more draws out in all 3 Groups.

If they do, how many draws until 1 of the 3 states hit in any of the 3 Groups.

I dont think PA will make it another 5 games (for evening)....but there is a 94.904% chance that one of the three will hit within the next 5 games.

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Thursday - Evening 9/22

Now we have 3 states out 20 skips or more in all 3 groups

Now let's see who hits first and how many draws it takes.

Tonight will be "Day 1"

 1 AZ 11 9 1 1 2 CA 3 7 10 3 3 CT 1 15 4 1 4 DE 1 2 6 1 5 FL 20 2 8 2 6 GA 9 12 13 9 7 ID 20 22 36 20 8 IL 3 6 18 3 9 IN 40 4 14 4 10 KS 4 58 7 4 11 KY 38 1 2 1 12 LA 41 3 18 3 13 MD 7 4 3 3 14 MI 73 5 3 3 15 MN 10 3 15 3 16 MO 26 31 10 10 17 NE 21 6 2 2 18 NJ 4 25 63 4 19 NM 18 5 10 5 20 NY 7 10 27 7 21 OH 34 10 24 10 22 OK 38 11 51 11 23 ONT 7 3 20 3 24 PA 37 59 28 28 25 QUE 6 70 24 6 26 SC 8 13 39 8 27 TN 46 1 5 1 28 TX 19 45 4 4 29 TS 7 27 8 7 30 VA 3 13 46 3 31 WA 37 21 80 21 32 DC 31 18 2 2 33 WV 1 6 20 1 34 WC 4 52 8 4 35 WI 25 2 35 2

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