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Oct 3, 2006, 12:41 am

just withdrew a chunk of money from 5D. they're saying we'll be able to keep gambling.

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chevy722

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Oct 3, 2006, 12:17 pm

Have you heard anything on betslips as to wether we can still play?
LOTTOMIKE

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Oct 6, 2006, 1:23 am

i have a good thought.we all need to stick together on this.the first person who has problems relating to what we are discussing can just give a heads up to the rest of us so we will be ready in advance.everyone agree?
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Oct 6, 2006, 6:56 am

Cleaned out.. Closed.. Settled...

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Oct 6, 2006, 10:10 am

Quote: Originally posted by chevy722 on Oct 3, 2006
Have you heard anything on betslips as to wether we can still play?

Hi Chevy.

This may help...If you look on the Betslips website - I think in the FAQ section, they explicitly say that Betslips is NOT a gambling service. Its a COURIER service. You give them your numbers and they help play for you, and you pay them for that help.
Now I don't know if the lawmakers will see it that way; Nevertheless, I'll continue to play. Nowadays, upon winning, I just withdraw the money as quickly as I can in case the plug is ever pulled for any trumped up reason.
Ciao.
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Quote: Originally posted by Kola on Oct 6, 2006
Hi Chevy.

This may help...If you look on the Betslips website - I think in the FAQ section, they explicitly say that Betslips is NOT a gambling service. Its a COURIER service. You give them your numbers and they help play for you, and you pay them for that help.
Now I don't know if the lawmakers will see it that way; Nevertheless, I'll continue to play. Nowadays, upon winning, I just withdraw the money as quickly as I can in case the plug is ever pulled for any trumped up reason.
Ciao.

I'm pretty sure what Frist will say...
"LOCK 'EM UP!"
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Oct 6, 2006, 1:35 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdc137 on Oct 6, 2006
I'm pretty sure what Frist will say...
"LOCK 'EM UP!"

Ain't that the truth! After all, he has to start to collect the people's faith in his righteousness during his brewing bid to eventually run for the presidency.
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Oct 6, 2006, 2:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Kola on Oct 6, 2006
Hi Chevy.

This may help...If you look on the Betslips website - I think in the FAQ section, they explicitly say that Betslips is NOT a gambling service. Its a COURIER service. You give them your numbers and they help play for you, and you pay them for that help.
Now I don't know if the lawmakers will see it that way; Nevertheless, I'll continue to play. Nowadays, upon winning, I just withdraw the money as quickly as I can in case the plug is ever pulled for any trumped up reason.
Ciao.

I think all the overseas web sites have the advantage of NOT being able to have the plugged pulled, so that would be the least of my concerns. The two arrests in the USA of gambling CEOs (of which only one is still being prosecuted) are good examples of how the USA gov't has not been successful in shutting down their overseas businesses, and all the players' money in their accounts has been secure throughout.
There is an irrational panic that has spread throughout the USA players, but eventually people will calm down once they see that (a) this thing isn't even law yet, (b) once it is signed, it will be almost a year before Justice's interpretation is published, and (c) the bill does not make online gaming illegal (with the exception of sports betting, which was already illegal). This is not the House bill that did attack online gambling. This is a completely different bill, and far less restrictive.

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Oct 6, 2006, 4:20 pm

i'm going to continue to play until the banks BLOCK transactions.it may never happen and i hope it doesn't but if it does then the party as we know it is OVER.
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Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Oct 6, 2006
I think all the overseas web sites have the advantage of NOT being able to have the plugged pulled, so that would be the least of my concerns. The two arrests in the USA of gambling CEOs (of which only one is still being prosecuted) are good examples of how the USA gov't has not been successful in shutting down their overseas businesses, and all the players' money in their accounts has been secure throughout.
There is an irrational panic that has spread throughout the USA players, but eventually people will calm down once they see that (a) this thing isn't even law yet, (b) once it is signed, it will be almost a year before Justice's interpretation is published, and (c) the bill does not make online gaming illegal (with the exception of sports betting, which was already illegal). This is not the House bill that did attack online gambling. This is a completely different bill, and far less restrictive.

Thanks Todd.
The Justice's interpretation. Hmm...That should be interesting. Being that there is no precedent, they may legislate more so than interpret. I respect and appreciate the office of the Supreme Court, but with the make-up of the Court, the "interpretation" may not fall in favor of the gamblers. Or maybe it will. Who knows...just got to wait and see...
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Oct 6, 2006, 4:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LOTTOMIKE on Oct 6, 2006
i'm going to continue to play until the banks BLOCK transactions.it may never happen and i hope it doesn't but if it does then the party as we know it is OVER.

That's not true. If you want it to be over for you, then so be it, but I wish you'd stop pronouncing the end of all things just because you feel that way. Other people may see your pronouncements and may not understand that other options will exist, and to think that other options will not exist is not being realistic.

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Oct 6, 2006, 4:33 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Kola on Oct 6, 2006
Thanks Todd.
The Justice's interpretation. Hmm...That should be interesting. Being that there is no precedent, they may legislate more so than interpret. I respect and appreciate the office of the Supreme Court, but with the make-up of the Court, the "interpretation" may not fall in favor of the gamblers. Or maybe it will. Who knows...just got to wait and see...
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I don't think it will get that far (Supreme Court). I think the Justice Department likes the fact that it is ambiguous right now, because it gives them wiggle room, allowing them to continue scaring people. If the Supreme Court were to rule with finality that the Wire Act only covers sports betting they will lose their ridiculous interpretation of the law, and the flood gates will open.

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Oct 6, 2006, 4:57 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Oct 6, 2006
I don't think it will get that far (Supreme Court). I think the Justice Department likes the fact that it is ambiguous right now, because it gives them wiggle room, allowing them to continue scaring people. If the Supreme Court were to rule with finality that the Wire Act only covers sports betting they will lose their ridiculous interpretation of the law, and the flood gates will open.

Lord forbid that I could finally buy a Powerball or Mega subscription of my own free will......... I'll have to watch this over the next three years or so!
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Oct 6, 2006, 6:04 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Oct 6, 2006
I don't think it will get that far (Supreme Court). I think the Justice Department likes the fact that it is ambiguous right now, because it gives them wiggle room, allowing them to continue scaring people. If the Supreme Court were to rule with finality that the Wire Act only covers sports betting they will lose their ridiculous interpretation of the law, and the flood gates will open.

"Ambiguity" is good. Works for me. Yet the Justice Department calls their interpretation "broad" - giving it that nice all-encompassing appeal(wink).
Aw man, they're just too much - Funny stuff.
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Oct 6, 2006, 7:30 pm

excellent article on this on bbc.com

love to nibble those micey feet.

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