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monkton maryland
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 Posted: November 8, 2006, 8:00 pm - IP Logged

any thoughts out there on this? instead of trying to pick the right # we try to elimate # to leave us with the right #? example, in the state of maryland which i study my research shows never play the bonus # from the previous drawing. divide my states 39 # into 4 groups (1-10 ,11-20 , 21-30 . &31-39 ) i usually find that 4 of the 5 winning # are located within just 3 groups. using a system to know what group to not play elimates another 10 #. we now have gotten rid of 11 # or almost 29 % of the 39 total#. with more filtering we can get rid of even more. just another way to look at it. any thoughts or suggestions on this?                                                                                keep in touch!!!!!

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any thoughts out there on this? instead of trying to pick the right # we try to elimate # to leave us with the right #? example, in the state of maryland which i study my research shows never play the bonus # from the previous drawing. divide my states 39 # into 4 groups (1-10 ,11-20 , 21-30 . &31-39 ) i usually find that 4 of the 5 winning # are located within just 3 groups. using a system to know what group to not play elimates another 10 #. we now have gotten rid of 11 # or almost 29 % of the 39 total#. with more filtering we can get rid of even more. just another way to look at it. any thoughts or suggestions on this?                                                                                keep in touch!!!!!

Sounds to me like you are on the right track.  The research is what really throws me.

I am never sure how many draws to look at to see a trend.  Obviously, if you have set your numbers up in 4 groups that is a good thing.  Maybe you could start by going back 100 draws and seeing what groups hit the most.  Then narrow down the groups to specific numbers.  Or maybe as you have stated what numbers do not fall.  I guess its all the way you look at it but I still think you are on the right track.  All this fancy adding and subtracting and mirroring and such does not really get to the root of the prediction.

Correct me if I am wrong but don't all reasonible prediction standards use previous history to give you an idea of the future.

Anyway, I believe you will find the method but I do like the idea of elimination.  If your research is good them you really are left with some good picks.  I am not familiar with Maryland Lottery games but they sound interesting.

Good Luck!!

Floridian

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 Posted: November 8, 2006, 9:04 pm - IP Logged

any thoughts out there on this? instead of trying to pick the right # we try to elimate # to leave us with the right #? example, in the state of maryland which i study my research shows never play the bonus # from the previous drawing. divide my states 39 # into 4 groups (1-10 ,11-20 , 21-30 . &31-39 ) i usually find that 4 of the 5 winning # are located within just 3 groups. using a system to know what group to not play elimates another 10 #. we now have gotten rid of 11 # or almost 29 % of the 39 total#. with more filtering we can get rid of even more. just another way to look at it. any thoughts or suggestions on this?                                                                                keep in touch!!!!!

pick5master,

Welcome back.  I looked at the other thread with the methodolgy you use. It is very similar to mine, I call them decades 1-9, 10-19, 20-29, 30-39, looking at drawings going back 100-150 draws, one will see clearly repeating decade patterns, some a lot more than others by factors of 3 to 8 starting with a repeat of 2 as a base.  Two particular patterns look like this 1121, 1211, respectively, 3-14-20-22-35 and 7-11-19-23-31 would represent these patterns.  I, unlike yourself,  take active, average, and passive numbers from the last 20 draws (18-21 numbers) and manually fit them to four or five different decade patterns, that I like (guessing, hoping a familiar pattern rears its head) and go from there.  I appreciate your work.  I am going to try eliminating the average numbers as you have observed,  using just from those two groups of active and passive.

LOL jarasan

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Your post is a bit funny. Almost a glass half-full or half-empty scenerio. Either way, the objective is relatively the same.

Perhaps allow me to offer up this train of thought. First, please understand, I do not know the history of your State's game, so this will require a bit of research on your behalf. If you use Excel, I have a multitude of spreadsheets I could share that allows me to research Ga's Fantasy 5 to a point I can tell you darn near anything you want to know about it. Although, there are still a few things I haven't done yet, it will happen. Some of the results of my spreadsheet can be seen here http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/144045 where I examine past skip history. I also have a slightly different version that allows me to see exactly what the skips are between every single time each individual number has hit. And my favorite one that I use on the MegaMillions utilizes a visual graph that allows me to look for possible distortions the game takes over various periods of time.

Another method I like to use when I don't have time to run my charts can be found here http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/141307 . The sad part to the story for this system is, on the MegaMillions, it gave me ALL 5 numbers on the same ticket, just not the same line. With minor adjustments, you could easily adapt it to something that is more applicable for your game.

And speaking of getting lots of 4 of 5 Hits...hunt down the posts for LottoMike. His system works great.

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Just a thought...but instead of 4 groups of 10. How about 13 groups of 3?

This allows you to clearly establish the groups in more detail. Also, 2 groups of 3 generates 6 possible combinations whereas 2 groups of 10 would generate hundreds of combinations. Here are 2 possible variations you could consider

Group A
01-02-03
04-05-06
07-08-09
10-11-12
13-14-15
16-17-18
19-20-21
22-23-24
25-26-27
28-29-30
31-32-33
34-35-36
37-38-39

Group B
01-14-27
02-15-28
03-16-29
04-17-30
05-18-31
06-19-32
07-20-33
08-21-34
09-22-35
10-23-36
11-24-37
12-25-38
13-26-39

Then, if you liked, you could assign values that will allow you to quickly search out how frequent each may occur.

Just food for thought, good luck.

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 Posted: November 9, 2006, 1:10 am - IP Logged

Thanks for the input.  Groups of three, (for 5/39) gives patterns that are 13 digits long for eg. 1000101100100 for 5 digit draw.  Possible patterns if only one hit in any 3 group is  from 0000000011111 to 1111100000000, approx. 16,000 combos. possible, why bother,  just use single numbers.  Sirmetro,  this is a methodolgy, look at any game, 5 of 39, 6 of 39, whatever, as long as it is less than forty numbers, you will see repetitive patterns where the numbers fall into regularly.  I don't care about graphs, skips, dips, hits, combinatory symetry, etc. too much food for thought.  I GAMBLE that a pattern that has shown before, regularly, will occur again, and increase my ODDS by using more than one of the recurring patterns.

When you go to Mega or Power, the patterns, if you go by 1-9, 10-19, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, 50-54,56, the spread is  too wide and you can't see discernible patterns, there are too many it is 6 places, tonight pball was 8-11-12-26-53 a pattern 121001 has shown only once in the past 100 games,  tonight dc 6 drew 4-10-11-19-21-36 pattern 1311 has shown 13 times in the past 100 games the most recent 4 games prior, check it out dc6 11/04/06 draw 6-15-18-19-27-32 guess what same pattern 1311 shown 12 times in the past 100 games.  I hit 4 of 6 tonight with 4-11-16-21-26-36 (pattern used 1221) and 3 of 6 on 4-10-11-13-28-33 (pattern 1311 used).

There are days when every ticket I play has a winner on it. I scan those days for non-believers. I played \$12 tonight 24 lines 4 differient patterns for a total win of \$12.00 YEEHAAAAAH! (Howard Dean inspired) one more # \$500.00 two more #'s \$166,000.00 post tax apocalypse. One day the glass will come full I've been refining only since July, I've been gambling long time, so I've combined a strategy with some randomness built in, 'cause bottom line is, luck has to play a part, it is the GORILLA in the room, I don't beat myself up when I lose, it's part of the game, it's fun.

No matter what system you use, what works for you, works, my system doesn't make my eyes feel like they are going to bleed or give me headaches when I'm done. This works for these types of 40 digit or less games, works even better for less than 35 digit games.

I like lottomike, he has great insight, he got lucky (4 of 5) just like the rest of us a few weeks ago on a prediction that was 3 or 4 days older than the drawing date on MD Bonus 5. If I get a complete miss I'll repeat, and sometimes get lucky, but I change plays almost daily, at a time cost of less than an hour, I spend more time on LP.

PS. I use a couple of Dbase programs to discern some of this stuff, like active, average, passive to reduce the pool of numbers. This system typically yields within it the complete set of drawn numbers, I don't have the time to do a full wheel a couple of nights in a row 'cause of the slips, but I have next week off, I might do it for grins and go fishing for numbers and rockfish if time permits.

LOL jarasan

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 Posted: November 9, 2006, 1:42 pm - IP Logged

sir metro;I would like a copy of your excel sheet for megamillions. Is it up to date? thanks. My e-mail is salesmn419@aol.com

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