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# All Pick 6..All States Test

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KY Floyd,

My strings are a test of my method of finding winning numbers for the Lotteries. How will I know if I am on the right track without testing. If I ever get a system that hits consistently, my next goal will be to start reducing numbers.

They are designed to be used with an abreviated wheel of which Todd has many good ones in the Wheels heading on the left of the page.  I am testing against all states to see if any patterns will emerge in other states but my real goal is to find numbers for Illinois. If by chance the numbers work for other states, then so much the better.

No one has said they are playing my numbers. I don't expect anyone to do so either.

If you think this is a test to demonstrate numbers that aren't the right ones, then good for you because you are half right. They will demonstrate bad results or good results according to whether you are an optimist or pessimist(the glass half full or empty thing). I am an eternal optimist so I will keep testing and testing and testing until I get it right or die of old age. I am comfortable with that.

If you have a better way of picking numbers, please feel free to share it. That is the goal of this website and this thread, to share information and to help others in their quest for winning numbers.

Thank you....Bud

That the general purpose is to find winning numbers is obvious. I can't really think of anything else you might test for, at least with respect to  picking numbers that you might play. What I haven't seen is any explanation of  how or why the numbers were picked, or what combinations you're testing.  Without knowing the parameters of a test the results aren't very meaningful and you can only make general  conclusions.  The general conclusion that seems obvious to me is that using combinations that can be made from about 1/3 of the available numbers can potentialy produce a lot of minor wins, but there's nothing to indicate that it would be profitable or even do better than probability suggests, and nothing to indicate what changes might improve the results.

As far as  testing for the wrong numbers, I haven't seen any results that say you've done that, either. There's an enormous amount of data already available that says that the numbers will come up in about the proportion that probability suggests, and I don't see anything in your results that suggest any of your numbers should be ruled out.

I haven't said anyone is, or should be, playing the numbers either. I'm assuming that the goal is to win more than you bet, and that requires picking the right combinations, not just the right numbers. When you post the results of 2 or 3 dozen drawings thy could potentially be matched with only 2 or 3 dozen combinations, but until you eliminate some of the combinations from consideration we have to conclude that they're all being used to get the  small wins shown in the results. In other words, the results necessarily rely on all the possible combinations that could be made with the numbers you're using. If you list 13 or 14 numbers to choose from and list all the results that include any of those numbers I don't see any way to eliminate some of the possible combinations that could be played with the numbers. Since I wouldn't expect anyone to be betting on 1 to 3 thousand combinations it's obvious that the number of combinations needs to be reduced substantially. Again, I don't see anything about your test methods to indicate that  you are doing that, let alone how you are doing that.

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KY Floyd,

What is your problem ? It seems as though every time someone else does something, or starts a thread such as this, you've got nothing but negative thoughts to say about it. Did someone pee in your cherrios today, yesterday, last week, last month or whenever.?

After reading some of your comments about this< I wonder if you would have said the same thing to say "Bill Gates" when he was testing his software. Or maybe Gen. Westmorland when he was in "Vietnam".

Maybe you'd like for "Budward" to just give you his results and you can start a thread after "you" have eliminated what you would think would be the correct amount of numbers.

A test is just that, a "TEST". the elimination process would start until you have the right combinatons to work with, and not just negative jargon such as your lame statements...  I don't see any of your thoughts about any of the games in any thread except that of negativity.    Period.

Here is an excerpt from a thread that RJOH had started about "Mega Millions" in October of last year from you.

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"Every combination has exactly the same chances as each of the other possible combinations. Period. Eliminating some of the numbers from your selection process does nothing, nada, zip, to increase or decrease your odds. Your odds of winning are determined by the matrix and the number of chances you play. Period. No matter how much anyone thinks otherwise, it's really that simple".

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No input, just your negativity. You need to sit back and relax and let others go about their buisness without your thoughts coming into play, or just stick your negative thoughts somewhere the "Sun" does'nt shine. Or better yet maybe Todd can put a new forum into LP, we could name it " All negative Jargon" and have you as the editor, what do you think ?

Maddog...

" You can not control the Wind, but you can direct the Sail "

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KY Floyd,

What is your problem ? It seems as though every time someone else does something, or starts a thread such as this, you've got nothing but negative thoughts to say about it. Did someone pee in your cherrios today, yesterday, last week, last month or whenever.?

After reading some of your comments about this< I wonder if you would have said the same thing to say "Bill Gates" when he was testing his software. Or maybe Gen. Westmorland when he was in "Vietnam".

Maybe you'd like for "Budward" to just give you his results and you can start a thread after "you" have eliminated what you would think would be the correct amount of numbers.

A test is just that, a "TEST". the elimination process would start until you have the right combinatons to work with, and not just negative jargon such as your lame statements...  I don't see any of your thoughts about any of the games in any thread except that of negativity.    Period.

Here is an excerpt from a thread that RJOH had started about "Mega Millions" in October of last year from you.

_____________________________________________________________

"Every combination has exactly the same chances as each of the other possible combinations. Period. Eliminating some of the numbers from your selection process does nothing, nada, zip, to increase or decrease your odds. Your odds of winning are determined by the matrix and the number of chances you play. Period. No matter how much anyone thinks otherwise, it's really that simple".

____________________________________________________________

No input, just your negativity. You need to sit back and relax and let others go about their buisness without your thoughts coming into play, or just stick your negative thoughts somewhere the "Sun" does'nt shine. Or better yet maybe Todd can put a new forum into LP, we could name it " All negative Jargon" and have you as the editor, what do you think ?

Maddog...

Well said...kudos to you, Maddog! Makes you wonder if this kind of negative jargon prevents many members from posting their ideas.

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Yes, kudos Maddog!  That was perfectly said.  I get really sick of seeing someone have the courage to post their ideas, thoughts, and tests, only to be harpooned by a close-minded individual who thinks they have all the answers.  I really like how you researched that past post to compare with the current one.  It is always instructive and helpful to do a little digging before posting.

It is not necessarily a bad thing to disagree with someone.  If you have an opposing view, then state what your view is.  If all you're going to post is negativity, then in my view it's better to start a different thread with what you DO believe.  Post YOUR theories, and people will decide for themselves which is the better idea.  If you don't post your own topic thread, then obviously you're not confident in your own ideas.

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Yes, kudos Maddog!  That was perfectly said.  I get really sick of seeing someone have the courage to post their ideas, thoughts, and tests, only to be harpooned by a close-minded individual who thinks they have all the answers.  I really like how you researched that past post to compare with the current one.  It is always instructive and helpful to do a little digging before posting.

It is not necessarily a bad thing to disagree with someone.  If you have an opposing view, then state what your view is.  If all you're going to post is negativity, then in my view it's better to start a different thread with what you DO believe.  Post YOUR theories, and people will decide for themselves which is the better idea.  If you don't post your own topic thread, then obviously you're not confident in your own ideas.

Exactly! WTG Todd! You hit it right on the \$\$\$! Great post!

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hit it damn right (oops..sorry) WTG MADDOG and Todd....you guys tell him right....

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thanks to MADDOG, rubi311, Todd, and pick3fan for your support.

Isabel, you are going to feel very silly when this turns out to be make-believe.

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I support you budward. Good luck with your winning picks.

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thank-you     Just6ntlc

check out my P-5 thread if you haven't already.

Isabel, you are going to feel very silly when this turns out to be make-believe.

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Tonights Results...01/05/07

 String 1 #'s Matched Connecticut Classic Lotto Fri, Jan 5, 2007 2 6 17 28 33 37 1 Delaware Multi-Win Lotto Fri, Jan 5, 2007 9 12 15 18 23 24 4 Pennsylvania Match 6 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 1 6 24 32 36 40 3 Puerto Rico Loto Fri, Jan 5, 2007 1 3 7 15 23 29 1 Revancha Fri, Jan 5, 2007 13 17 27 35 36 41 0 Washington, D.C. DC Daily 6 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 6 7 13 16 18 31 2 West Virginia Cash 25 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 2 11 14 17 20 24 2 Wisconsin Super Cash Fri, Jan 5, 2007 6 11 17 24 30 34 2

 String 2 #'s Matched Connecticut Classic Lotto Fri, Jan 5, 2007 2 6 17 28 33 37 1 Delaware Multi-Win Lotto Fri, Jan 5, 2007 9 12 15 18 23 24 5 Pennsylvania Match 6 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 1 6 24 32 36 40 2 Puerto Rico Loto Fri, Jan 5, 2007 1 3 7 15 23 29 3 Revancha Fri, Jan 5, 2007 13 17 27 35 36 41 1 Washington, D.C. DC Daily 6 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 6 7 13 16 18 31 2 West Virginia Cash 25 Fri, Jan 5, 2007 2 11 14 17 20 24 2 Wisconsin Super Cash Fri, Jan 5, 2007 6 11 17 24 30 34 2

Numbers for Saturday 01/06/07

 1 2 6 7 11 13 15 17 18 20 23 24 31 36 1 2 3 6 11 12 13 14 15 17 20 24 35 36

Isabel, you are going to feel very silly when this turns out to be make-believe.

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KY Floyd,

What is your problem ? It seems as though every time someone else does something, or starts a thread such as this, you've got nothing but negative thoughts to say about it. Did someone pee in your cherrios today, yesterday, last week, last month or whenever.?

After reading some of your comments about this< I wonder if you would have said the same thing to say "Bill Gates" when he was testing his software. Or maybe Gen. Westmorland when he was in "Vietnam".

Maybe you'd like for "Budward" to just give you his results and you can start a thread after "you" have eliminated what you would think would be the correct amount of numbers.

A test is just that, a "TEST". the elimination process would start until you have the right combinatons to work with, and not just negative jargon such as your lame statements...  I don't see any of your thoughts about any of the games in any thread except that of negativity.    Period.

Here is an excerpt from a thread that RJOH had started about "Mega Millions" in October of last year from you.

_____________________________________________________________

"Every combination has exactly the same chances as each of the other possible combinations. Period. Eliminating some of the numbers from your selection process does nothing, nada, zip, to increase or decrease your odds. Your odds of winning are determined by the matrix and the number of chances you play. Period. No matter how much anyone thinks otherwise, it's really that simple".

____________________________________________________________

No input, just your negativity. You need to sit back and relax and let others go about their buisness without your thoughts coming into play, or just stick your negative thoughts somewhere the "Sun" does'nt shine. Or better yet maybe Todd can put a new forum into LP, we could name it " All negative Jargon" and have you as the editor, what do you think ?

Maddog...

Busted. And I tried so hard not to let on that I believe that lottery results are random and governed by simple probability.

Actually, if you read my other posts in that thread (as well as many other threads) you'll see that I believe the results aren't perfectly random. Also, if you read the posts leading up to the one you quoted you might see that the quote is a specific response to the previous post, by Guesser, and is about the probability of numbers from the previous drawing repeating in the subsequent drawing and  about the effect of a combination being drawn on the probability that it will be drawn again. Since my post immediately followed Guesser's I didn't think it was necessary to quote the post, since my resonses to that point were all directed at Guesser's ideas.  Though I don't believe that the chances for every number to be drawn are exactly the same that doesn't mean I think there's a big difference. I'd love to see test results that demonstrate that some numbers are more or less likely to be drawn. I'm more than willing to belive that testing may show a departure from pure randomness, but in the present case I have no idea what is being tested or how. A list of numbers and results without any explanation isn't a test. It's raw data.

I actually find it amusing that out of about 350 post I've made you'd choose that one to assert that my posts are simply my negativity. It doesn't offer the detail of som eof my other posts, but in a nutshell all it says is that the results of the lottery are random. As I see it I'm simply pointing out a mathematical reality that mathematicians the world over agree with. As a general rule, when I say something is incorrect  I try to offer a reason or explanation. The quote above was a short and simple response that followed several long and detailed ones, and whether you agree with my claims or not the explanations clearly qualify as input. Feel free to start with my first post in that thread, which offers the reasons that  some claims aren't valid. People are free to explain the reasons why my claims are wrong, but mostly I see a lot of  vague or generalized statements that do a poor job of supporting the many claims that people make.

As far as Bill Gates and his software go, every version of windows that has been released has had numerous problems, some of which are significant. For the things that work I'm sure he would be more than capable of offering a well articulated explanation of why somebody was wrong in claiming that there was a problem. Some people welcome criticism that explains what's wrong with something, and they don't feel threatened if somebody incorrectly says that what they are doing is flawed. Other people react poorly to being told they are wrong even when they are and it is explained to them. As with any other large group, there are people here who fall into both categories.

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Busted. And I tried so hard not to let on that I believe that lottery results are random and governed by simple probability.

Actually, if you read my other posts in that thread (as well as many other threads) you'll see that I believe the results aren't perfectly random. Also, if you read the posts leading up to the one you quoted you might see that the quote is a specific response to the previous post, by Guesser, and is about the probability of numbers from the previous drawing repeating in the subsequent drawing and  about the effect of a combination being drawn on the probability that it will be drawn again. Since my post immediately followed Guesser's I didn't think it was necessary to quote the post, since my resonses to that point were all directed at Guesser's ideas.  Though I don't believe that the chances for every number to be drawn are exactly the same that doesn't mean I think there's a big difference. I'd love to see test results that demonstrate that some numbers are more or less likely to be drawn. I'm more than willing to belive that testing may show a departure from pure randomness, but in the present case I have no idea what is being tested or how. A list of numbers and results without any explanation isn't a test. It's raw data.

I actually find it amusing that out of about 350 post I've made you'd choose that one to assert that my posts are simply my negativity. It doesn't offer the detail of som eof my other posts, but in a nutshell all it says is that the results of the lottery are random. As I see it I'm simply pointing out a mathematical reality that mathematicians the world over agree with. As a general rule, when I say something is incorrect  I try to offer a reason or explanation. The quote above was a short and simple response that followed several long and detailed ones, and whether you agree with my claims or not the explanations clearly qualify as input. Feel free to start with my first post in that thread, which offers the reasons that  some claims aren't valid. People are free to explain the reasons why my claims are wrong, but mostly I see a lot of  vague or generalized statements that do a poor job of supporting the many claims that people make.

As far as Bill Gates and his software go, every version of windows that has been released has had numerous problems, some of which are significant. For the things that work I'm sure he would be more than capable of offering a well articulated explanation of why somebody was wrong in claiming that there was a problem. Some people welcome criticism that explains what's wrong with something, and they don't feel threatened if somebody incorrectly says that what they are doing is flawed. Other people react poorly to being told they are wrong even when they are and it is explained to them. As with any other large group, there are people here who fall into both categories.

Well KY Floyd,

I was hoping this would'nt come to this but since it has I see no reason to hold back.

As a matter of fact, I did go back over your posts and low and behold I found that you refuted the majority of post that were contrary to your beliefs. In mathmatical jargon, that would be 263 of 350 post for a total of 75.1 %. And no I won't say you're wrong..!

Out of the 350 or so posts, you've changed your thoughts in the middle of the thread as to make yourself look better or to prove your superiority over someone 78 times. So, 78 out of 350 equates to 22.2%. And no I won't say you're wrong...!

Out of those 350 posts, I have seen where you have said you agree with someone 9 times out of 350 which again equates to 2.57%.  And no I won't say you're wrong...!

Out of those 350 posts you actually offered constructive criticism once (1), how that ever happened I would'nt even begin to try to figure out, maybe you hiy your head on the way to sitting down. So 1 out of 350 equates to 0.28%. And no I won't say you're wrong...!

So all this boils down to is this, of all the posts you've been involved with adds up to 100.001%. And no I won't say you're wrong...!

But, what I will say Is that you are the "Southbound" end of a "Northbound" mule. And that equates to 100%. And no I won't say you're wrong...!

If the shoe fits, wear it..! Now the probability of that is 110%.

Maddog.

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Well KY Floyd,

I was hoping this would'nt come to this but since it has I see no reason to hold back.

As a matter of fact, I did go back over your posts and low and behold I found that you refuted the majority of post that were contrary to your beliefs. In mathmatical jargon, that would be 263 of 350 post for a total of 75.1 %. And no I won't say you're wrong..!

Out of the 350 or so posts, you've changed your thoughts in the middle of the thread as to make yourself look better or to prove your superiority over someone 78 times. So, 78 out of 350 equates to 22.2%. And no I won't say you're wrong...!

Out of those 350 posts, I have seen where you have said you agree with someone 9 times out of 350 which again equates to 2.57%.  And no I won't say you're wrong...!

Out of those 350 posts you actually offered constructive criticism once (1), how that ever happened I would'nt even begin to try to figure out, maybe you hiy your head on the way to sitting down. So 1 out of 350 equates to 0.28%. And no I won't say you're wrong...!

So all this boils down to is this, of all the posts you've been involved with adds up to 100.001%. And no I won't say you're wrong...!

But, what I will say Is that you are the "Southbound" end of a "Northbound" mule. And that equates to 100%. And no I won't say you're wrong...!

If the shoe fits, wear it..! Now the probability of that is 110%.

Maddog.

Nailed it MADDOG!!!  When will people learn...they don't call you MADDOG for nothing...hehehe!

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Nailed it MADDOG!!!  When will people learn...they don't call you MADDOG for nothing...hehehe!

Sorry, no numbers today.

I am typing from work right now. Won't be home til late. I will post todays numbers when i get home in case anyone wants to see what they would have been.

Isabel, you are going to feel very silly when this turns out to be make-believe.

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Tonights Numbers...01/07/07

 6 11 15 16 18 19 20 25 33 34 40 43 45 47 6 7 10 11 16 18 19 20 25 33 34 40 43 45

Isabel, you are going to feel very silly when this turns out to be make-believe.

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