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Posted: January 18, 2007, 3:19 pm - IP Logged

do you think its better than the rest.

Also!

Has anyone ever tried modifying(writing additional programming) to their purchased software to enhance its use

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    LotSoft and no, no need to enhance it.

    It has great statistical data and very easy to use and the Live Draw Update is priceless.

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      I use software I designed and wrote myself using GWBasic and compiled using a Quick Basic complier.  GWBasic is an old Microsoft DOS language that's not used any more but still run in the Command window of Windows.

      It's unlikely the average Joe lottery player is able to decompile a commercial program and modify it, if he had those kinds of skills he would be writing his own programs not trying to make a bad program work better.

      I bought several of the better commercial programs but they didn't give me all the information I wanted so I designed my own and I'm still finding ways to improve it.  I haven't found anything that works better but then I haven't tried any of the programs available that cost more than $50 or don't have a free trial period.  My personal opinion is commercial programs work the same for everybody and everybody is not winning lotteries.

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        I made 2 different programs. One coded in C++, the other coded in VB.

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          Microsoft Excel, a yellow legal pad, and a calculator.

          My most important computer program is my yellow legal pad, I couldn't play without it. 

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            I use excel as my data container (because it's simpler than writing my own and has a few other sublte advantages, right now) and VBA language as it allows me to focus more on my ideas and less on language syntax. In that sense, I have modified my purchased software. 

            I don't bother with buying "pro" lottery software. If there is a bug in the code, you have to beg, beg, beg some schmoe for an update ... after they've got your money... which, of course, changes who the true schmoe is.

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              I've written some software myself - everything in the "Systems" menu above. Big Grin

              I code almost everything in some form of VB.  The older stuff, including Deflate and Inspector, are written in VBScript, which is the language behind classic ASP pages.  The newer stuff, like Lucky's Followers System, is written in VB.NET, which is one of Microsoft's .NET languages.

              There is also some C# programming in Lottery Post (another .NET language), but I try to keep it at a minimum, because I find VB.NET to be more readable and maintainable.

              For the average lottery player, the #1 best tool in the world is Excel.  If I were just writing some code for a personal lottery system, it would absolutely be in Excel, which is a lot more powerful than some people realize.  It has a complete development environment, using Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) for its programming language.  It is a full-blown programming language, not some stripped-down macro language.

               

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                I agree Todd that Excel is a great tool for the personal lottery system, which I have used in some many ways to track this game. However, I did not think I would come to this day, when I say that I have outgrown this tool. I need a truly integrated database management tracking system, that is why I pursue Access as the next growth point for me.  I hope I get there soon, although, the more I look at LotSoft, the closer I think I am already at that goal.

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                  #1 Excel /with VBA - quick and easy to get up and running, forces you to think to solve problems and adapt formulas.

                  #2 Visual Basic - easy to use when you know what to ask it (still seeking the proper questions). I still prefer excel because many times I would write a VB program only to discover an easy alternative already existed in Excel.

                  #3 Access - speaking SQL helps narrow down the data. Proper queries return concise results. Plus it integrates seamlessly with excel.

                  Add to these my trusty casio fx-50 graphing calculator, post-it's and a regular notebook and a mechanical pencil and I'm all set to give myself endless hours of false hope Jester

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                    I agree Todd that Excel is a great tool for the personal lottery system, which I have used in some many ways to track this game. However, I did not think I would come to this day, when I say that I have outgrown this tool. I need a truly integrated database management tracking system, that is why I pursue Access as the next growth point for me.  I hope I get there soon, although, the more I look at LotSoft, the closer I think I am already at that goal.

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                      IMO, there are too many intangibles for a computer system of any kind.  It CAN be done, but the number of tables needed if you were to do it in,say, MS Access, would be in the high-hundreds.   But that's just my opinion.

                       

                      That said, 70% of all jackpot winners are quick-picks, largely because 70% of all ticket sales are - quick-picks. 

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                        Most of my work uses Excel/VBA though there's also a lot of Access/VB and SQL.  There's a number tasks that one can do better (much quicker or simply) than the other.  Also, you can code user defined functions (aka methods) that can be used interchangeably in Excel/Access without modification.

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                          do you think its better than the rest.

                          Also!

                          Has anyone ever tried modifying(writing additional programming) to their purchased software to enhance its use

                          Software in and of itself will not win a lottery.  It is the USE of that software that MIGHT get you a win, though.  You must use your head and your heart in interpreting the information the software presents.  It is through the interpretation of that information that will make the software "valuable".  A professional tennis player can take a $30. dollar cheap racket and beat a nonpro who has the best one on the market.  It is the SKILL you BRING to USING the racket (software) that is key here.

                          U feel me? :-)

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                            Software in and of itself will not win a lottery.  It is the USE of that software that MIGHT get you a win, though.  You must use your head and your heart in interpreting the information the software presents.  It is through the interpretation of that information that will make the software "valuable".  A professional tennis player can take a $30. dollar cheap racket and beat a nonpro who has the best one on the market.  It is the SKILL you BRING to USING the racket (software) that is key here.

                            U feel me? :-)

                            Greg is very right.

                            The same applies to those who want to use a supercomputer for winning jackpot games, it will never give you the winning jackpot number of itself.

                            Only a properly coded prediction program will , which probably won't happen as perhaps there is no programmer anywhere who knows how to make such a program.

                            Another possible way would be to have the right tools in a jackpot lottery program and if you know how to use them to get the jackpot winning number.

                            It is not a good idea to make automatic pick 3, 4 prediction programs for the general public unless they are somewhat "Faulty" and don't give the winning number often enough to make a regular profit with them.

                            It is much better to make programs that give a person the right tools, that if used right can give you the winning number.

                            But as not everybody uses and or likes to use the same prediction method(s) not all lottery programs and or tools are well suited for every-ones use.

                            It is the right prediction logic(s)  that will give you the winning number and even a correctly programmed old and very slow Commodore computer would do it, as it is the program itself and not so much the computer that is doing it.

                            But of course, for such a very slow program such as LottoSyncronizer, it might be best to have a very fast computer with lots of memory and again maybe not as the slower computer might produce better "Random" numbers according to something that Ion Saliu said quite some time ago, as he once did some random numbers generating  tests, true or not, I don't know.

                            I don't at all agree with many things that he believes in, but about this particular thing he just might be right.

                            There perhaps are so many variables involved in the prediction technique used by LottoSync that even Guru (Marco) does not know the full effect that each of those variables has on the prediction, I am sure that he keeps on learning with all his unending testing.

                            This might not apply to this here thread, but I wonder if we will ever have a good enough copy of LottoSync, I do understand that making a good enough program might not be possible or might take very many years to develop, I am of course talking about jackpot games prediction as automatic pick 3 and 4 prediction is very possible if the drawings are fair (Honest) and truly random. 

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                            Todd's Lottery Post online workouts are good.

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                            And Ricky's (Paurths) pick 3 and pick 4 lottery programs are also good enough, they of course could be much better, even if they already are the best of them all. 

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                              Greg is very right.

                              The same applies to those who want to use a supercomputer for winning jackpot games, it will never give you the winning jackpot number of itself.

                              Only a properly coded prediction program will , which probably won't happen as perhaps there is no programmer anywhere who knows how to make such a program.

                              Another possible way would be to have the right tools in a jackpot lottery program and if you know how to use them to get the jackpot winning number.

                              It is not a good idea to make automatic pick 3, 4 prediction programs for the general public unless they are somewhat "Faulty" and don't give the winning number often enough to make a regular profit with them.

                              It is much better to make programs that give a person the right tools, that if used right can give you the winning number.

                              But as not everybody uses and or likes to use the same prediction method(s) not all lottery programs and or tools are well suited for every-ones use.

                              It is the right prediction logic(s)  that will give you the winning number and even a correctly programmed old and very slow Commodore computer would do it, as it is the program itself and not so much the computer that is doing it.

                              But of course, for such a very slow program such as LottoSyncronizer, it might be best to have a very fast computer with lots of memory and again maybe not as the slower computer might produce better "Random" numbers according to something that Ion Saliu said quite some time ago, as he once did some random numbers generating  tests, true or not, I don't know.

                              I don't at all agree with many things that he believes in, but about this particular thing he just might be right.

                              There perhaps are so many variables involved in the prediction technique used by LottoSync that even Guru (Marco) does not know the full effect that each of those variables has on the prediction, I am sure that he keeps on learning with all his unending testing.

                              This might not apply to this here thread, but I wonder if we will ever have a good enough copy of LottoSync, I do understand that making a good enough program might not be possible or might take very many years to develop, I am of course talking about jackpot games prediction as automatic pick 3 and 4 prediction is very possible if the drawings are fair (Honest) and truly random. 

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                              Todd's Lottery Post online workouts are good.

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                              And Ricky's (Paurths) pick 3 and pick 4 lottery programs are also good enough, they of course could be much better, even if they already are the best of them all. 

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                              It all comes down to number analysis, and pattern analysis.