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Ohio Pick 3 Digit 2 Alert & Stats

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Posted: January 30, 2007, 11:21 pm - IP Logged

The digit 2 has not been drawn in Position-Two (in Ohio) for 87 consecutive games now!  This is at least a new second place longest-out record for a digit in Position-Two.  The largest POS-2 skip on record for Ohio is 94 games.  This digit should hit very, very soon...unless of course it keeps going and takes over the #1 spot and bumps that 94 down into second.  Who knows, we'll have to wait and see.  Until it hits, here are the current records for all three of the Ohio Pick 3 Positions:

 

POS-1

POS-2

POS-3

1st1049486
2nd888179
3rd848077
4th777875
5th747873
6th737773
7th737672
8th737472
9th737369
10th716968
11th706966
12th696866
13th686664
14th666664
15th666663

 

The all time longest skip in Ohio is 104 games.  This occurred in Position-One (it was the digit 8).  Skips this large are extremely rare...in fact, the combined probabilites of all skips from 78 games through infinity is less than .03%.

Here is a chart that shows the probability (as a decimal value) for a digits skip to end.  The first skip on the list is "1".  This is when a digit hits exactly one game after its last hit, which is the very next game...or a back-to-back repeat.  The number of times that each skip occurred in each position for all of Ohio's 10,809 games is also listed.  You'll notice how the frequency decreases with the probabilities....

 

SkipPOS-1POS-2POS-3Probability
11,0781,0951,1040.1000000000
29529849470.0900000000
38568938270.0810000000
48238187950.0729000000
57237267050.0656100000
66416107420.0590490000
76136085580.0531441000
85155295150.0478296900
94584254680.0430467210
104193934070.0387420489
113803623820.0348678440
123312903500.0313810596
132912863060.0282429536
142792922770.0254186583
152542442500.0228767925
162122261990.0205891132
172011961950.0185302019
181671781520.0166771817
191741631590.0150094635
201381511310.0135085172
211261271260.0121576655
221091321250.0109418989
231051381100.0098477090
2410695900.0088629381
258088930.0079766443
268364880.0071789799
275370700.0064610819
286773690.0058149737
296654510.0052334763
305063470.0047101287
313739420.0042391158
323638380.0038152042
333430330.0034336838
343029490.0030903154
353318320.0027812839
363730260.0025031555
372222200.0022528400
382720210.0020275560
392618280.0018248004
402319190.0016423203
411016150.0014780883
421714190.0013302795
43715150.0011972515
441712160.0010775264
45101770.0009697737
46106100.0008727964
4710780.0007855167
4868100.0007069650
493540.0006362685
506530.0005726417
516280.0005153775
522730.0004638398
535950.0004174558
543950.0003757102
554230.0003381392
561330.0003043253
572220.0002738927
584440.0002465035
590400.0002218531
604310.0001996678
614140.0001797010
624110.0001617309
630230.0001455578
642120.0001310021
652200.0001179018
662420.0001061117
670000.0000955005
681110.0000859504
691210.0000773554
701000.0000696199
711000.0000626579
720020.0000563921
734120.0000507529
741100.0000456776
750010.0000411098
760100.0000369988
771110.0000332990
780200.0000299691
790010.0000269722
800100.0000242749
810100.0000218475
820000.0000196627
830000.0000176964
841000.0000159268
850000.0000143341
860010.0000129007
870000.0000116106
881000.0000104496
890000.0000094046
900000.0000084641
910000.0000076177
920000.0000068560
930000.0000061704
940100.0000055533
950000.0000049980
960000.0000044982
970000.0000040484
980000.0000036435
990000.0000032792
1000000.0000029513
1010000.0000026561
1020000.0000023905
1030000.0000021515
1041000.0000019363

 

 

Its funny how odds and probability work.  You can look at the digit 0 in position-one for example, and know that it hasn't been drawn for three consecutive games now....and all the while asking yourself: what are the "odds" that the zero will be the P1 digit in the very next game?  Common sense says the odds are 1 in 10, .10 or 10%.  But because it hasn't been drawn for three games in a row now, the probability to see it land on the fourth (the very next game) is only .0729 or 7.29%.  This may sound a little strange, but the only time when you can look at the last occurrence of a digit and know that both the probability and the odds are equally 1 in 10, .10 or 10%, is when looking at the very last digit drawn and guessing for a back-to-back repeat.  The probabilities and the frequencies of the skips listed above clearly show that. 

~Probability=Odds in Motion~

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    Posted: January 30, 2007, 11:45 pm - IP Logged

    Thoth,

    You bring up a good point about probabilities. Most people can't understand this, but there are two kinds of probabilities, continuous and instantaneous. The common term of skip/hit refers to a continuous probability that operates over a number of intervals like time, draw or index. The other is the probability in a single drawing, or the instantaneous probability that operates in a single interval of time, draw or index. Continuous probabilities refer to the probability of an outcome relative to the previous occurrences; just like the number 2 being out for 87 draws in P2. Instantaneous probability is the probability of an outcome relative to the individual draw itself, just like every number has an equal probability of occurrence in a single drawing or 1 out of 10.

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      Posted: January 30, 2007, 11:56 pm - IP Logged

      Is there any way to mix the two kinds of probabilities?  I know that the probability to see the digit 2 having made it out 87+ games is quite rare (this rarity is, of course, before the first of those 87 trials started)...and that even though it is out 87 games now, that the real probability is stil .65132 over the next ten draws and .10 for each of the individual draws.

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        Posted: January 30, 2007, 11:59 pm - IP Logged

        Is there any way to mix the two kinds of probabilities?  I know that the probability to see the digit 2 having made it out 87+ games is quite rare (this rarity is, of course, before the first of those 87 trials started)...and that even though it is out 87 games now, that the real probability is stil .65132 over the next ten draws and .10 for each of the individual draws.

        Yes there is, it's call Quantum Lottery Theory and I've been working on it for a few years.

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          Posted: January 31, 2007, 12:09 am - IP Logged

          Sounds interesting! Is this of your own invention or is there any information available on the subject?

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            Posted: January 31, 2007, 12:15 am - IP Logged

            A little of both, however I have not come across anything specific that mentions Quantum Lottery Theory. As the name suggest, there are some similarities to Quantum Mechanics. I've posted some of the equations and other related material here at LP.

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              A little of both, however I have not come across anything specific that mentions Quantum Lottery Theory. As the name suggest, there are some similarities to Quantum Mechanics. I've posted some of the equations and other related material here at LP.

              Well that digit 2 hit in position 2 today....so the new second place record stands at 88

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                Posted: February 1, 2007, 12:20 am - IP Logged

                Well that digit 2 hit in position 2 today....so the new second place record stands at 88

                After looking at your excellent data, I played a hunch on 023 because its never been drawn. 

                When 123 hit and the "230" appeared in the Pick-4, it reminded me why I only play the Ohio Pick-3 once every five years.

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                  After looking at your excellent data, I played a hunch on 023 because its never been drawn. 

                  When 123 hit and the "230" appeared in the Pick-4, it reminded me why I only play the Ohio Pick-3 once every five years.

                  Its funny you should mention 023.  I also played that number yesterday...but then again, I play that number almost every single drawing lol.  Actually, 023 has been drawn 3 times in Ohio: 11-26-81, 9-23-83, 1-7-84. 

                  The last hit came 9,532 games ago!  Thats similar to seeing a single digit out in a specific position for 95 draws.  I think shes gonna hit before the year is out.     

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                    Posted: February 1, 2007, 12:07 pm - IP Logged

                    Great info, Thoth

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