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# Ohio Pick 3 Digit 2 Alert & Stats

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Findlay, Ohio
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 Posted: January 30, 2007, 11:21 pm - IP Logged

The digit 2 has not been drawn in Position-Two (in Ohio) for 87 consecutive games now!  This is at least a new second place longest-out record for a digit in Position-Two.  The largest POS-2 skip on record for Ohio is 94 games.  This digit should hit very, very soon...unless of course it keeps going and takes over the #1 spot and bumps that 94 down into second.  Who knows, we'll have to wait and see.  Until it hits, here are the current records for all three of the Ohio Pick 3 Positions:

 POS-1 POS-2 POS-3 1st 104 94 86 2nd 88 81 79 3rd 84 80 77 4th 77 78 75 5th 74 78 73 6th 73 77 73 7th 73 76 72 8th 73 74 72 9th 73 73 69 10th 71 69 68 11th 70 69 66 12th 69 68 66 13th 68 66 64 14th 66 66 64 15th 66 66 63

The all time longest skip in Ohio is 104 games.  This occurred in Position-One (it was the digit 8).  Skips this large are extremely rare...in fact, the combined probabilites of all skips from 78 games through infinity is less than .03%.

Here is a chart that shows the probability (as a decimal value) for a digits skip to end.  The first skip on the list is "1".  This is when a digit hits exactly one game after its last hit, which is the very next game...or a back-to-back repeat.  The number of times that each skip occurred in each position for all of Ohio's 10,809 games is also listed.  You'll notice how the frequency decreases with the probabilities....

 Skip POS-1 POS-2 POS-3 Probability 1 1,078 1,095 1,104 0.1000000000 2 952 984 947 0.0900000000 3 856 893 827 0.0810000000 4 823 818 795 0.0729000000 5 723 726 705 0.0656100000 6 641 610 742 0.0590490000 7 613 608 558 0.0531441000 8 515 529 515 0.0478296900 9 458 425 468 0.0430467210 10 419 393 407 0.0387420489 11 380 362 382 0.0348678440 12 331 290 350 0.0313810596 13 291 286 306 0.0282429536 14 279 292 277 0.0254186583 15 254 244 250 0.0228767925 16 212 226 199 0.0205891132 17 201 196 195 0.0185302019 18 167 178 152 0.0166771817 19 174 163 159 0.0150094635 20 138 151 131 0.0135085172 21 126 127 126 0.0121576655 22 109 132 125 0.0109418989 23 105 138 110 0.0098477090 24 106 95 90 0.0088629381 25 80 88 93 0.0079766443 26 83 64 88 0.0071789799 27 53 70 70 0.0064610819 28 67 73 69 0.0058149737 29 66 54 51 0.0052334763 30 50 63 47 0.0047101287 31 37 39 42 0.0042391158 32 36 38 38 0.0038152042 33 34 30 33 0.0034336838 34 30 29 49 0.0030903154 35 33 18 32 0.0027812839 36 37 30 26 0.0025031555 37 22 22 20 0.0022528400 38 27 20 21 0.0020275560 39 26 18 28 0.0018248004 40 23 19 19 0.0016423203 41 10 16 15 0.0014780883 42 17 14 19 0.0013302795 43 7 15 15 0.0011972515 44 17 12 16 0.0010775264 45 10 17 7 0.0009697737 46 10 6 10 0.0008727964 47 10 7 8 0.0007855167 48 6 8 10 0.0007069650 49 3 5 4 0.0006362685 50 6 5 3 0.0005726417 51 6 2 8 0.0005153775 52 2 7 3 0.0004638398 53 5 9 5 0.0004174558 54 3 9 5 0.0003757102 55 4 2 3 0.0003381392 56 1 3 3 0.0003043253 57 2 2 2 0.0002738927 58 4 4 4 0.0002465035 59 0 4 0 0.0002218531 60 4 3 1 0.0001996678 61 4 1 4 0.0001797010 62 4 1 1 0.0001617309 63 0 2 3 0.0001455578 64 2 1 2 0.0001310021 65 2 2 0 0.0001179018 66 2 4 2 0.0001061117 67 0 0 0 0.0000955005 68 1 1 1 0.0000859504 69 1 2 1 0.0000773554 70 1 0 0 0.0000696199 71 1 0 0 0.0000626579 72 0 0 2 0.0000563921 73 4 1 2 0.0000507529 74 1 1 0 0.0000456776 75 0 0 1 0.0000411098 76 0 1 0 0.0000369988 77 1 1 1 0.0000332990 78 0 2 0 0.0000299691 79 0 0 1 0.0000269722 80 0 1 0 0.0000242749 81 0 1 0 0.0000218475 82 0 0 0 0.0000196627 83 0 0 0 0.0000176964 84 1 0 0 0.0000159268 85 0 0 0 0.0000143341 86 0 0 1 0.0000129007 87 0 0 0 0.0000116106 88 1 0 0 0.0000104496 89 0 0 0 0.0000094046 90 0 0 0 0.0000084641 91 0 0 0 0.0000076177 92 0 0 0 0.0000068560 93 0 0 0 0.0000061704 94 0 1 0 0.0000055533 95 0 0 0 0.0000049980 96 0 0 0 0.0000044982 97 0 0 0 0.0000040484 98 0 0 0 0.0000036435 99 0 0 0 0.0000032792 100 0 0 0 0.0000029513 101 0 0 0 0.0000026561 102 0 0 0 0.0000023905 103 0 0 0 0.0000021515 104 1 0 0 0.0000019363

Its funny how odds and probability work.  You can look at the digit 0 in position-one for example, and know that it hasn't been drawn for three consecutive games now....and all the while asking yourself: what are the "odds" that the zero will be the P1 digit in the very next game?  Common sense says the odds are 1 in 10, .10 or 10%.  But because it hasn't been drawn for three games in a row now, the probability to see it land on the fourth (the very next game) is only .0729 or 7.29%.  This may sound a little strange, but the only time when you can look at the last occurrence of a digit and know that both the probability and the odds are equally 1 in 10, .10 or 10%, is when looking at the very last digit drawn and guessing for a back-to-back repeat.  The probabilities and the frequencies of the skips listed above clearly show that.

~Probability=Odds in Motion~

The Quantum Master
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 Posted: January 30, 2007, 11:45 pm - IP Logged

Thoth,

You bring up a good point about probabilities. Most people can't understand this, but there are two kinds of probabilities, continuous and instantaneous. The common term of skip/hit refers to a continuous probability that operates over a number of intervals like time, draw or index. The other is the probability in a single drawing, or the instantaneous probability that operates in a single interval of time, draw or index. Continuous probabilities refer to the probability of an outcome relative to the previous occurrences; just like the number 2 being out for 87 draws in P2. Instantaneous probability is the probability of an outcome relative to the individual draw itself, just like every number has an equal probability of occurrence in a single drawing or 1 out of 10.

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 Posted: January 30, 2007, 11:56 pm - IP Logged

Is there any way to mix the two kinds of probabilities?  I know that the probability to see the digit 2 having made it out 87+ games is quite rare (this rarity is, of course, before the first of those 87 trials started)...and that even though it is out 87 games now, that the real probability is stil .65132 over the next ten draws and .10 for each of the individual draws.

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The Quantum Master
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 Posted: January 30, 2007, 11:59 pm - IP Logged

Is there any way to mix the two kinds of probabilities?  I know that the probability to see the digit 2 having made it out 87+ games is quite rare (this rarity is, of course, before the first of those 87 trials started)...and that even though it is out 87 games now, that the real probability is stil .65132 over the next ten draws and .10 for each of the individual draws.

Yes there is, it's call Quantum Lottery Theory and I've been working on it for a few years.

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 Posted: January 31, 2007, 12:09 am - IP Logged

Sounds interesting! Is this of your own invention or is there any information available on the subject?

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 Posted: January 31, 2007, 12:15 am - IP Logged

A little of both, however I have not come across anything specific that mentions Quantum Lottery Theory. As the name suggest, there are some similarities to Quantum Mechanics. I've posted some of the equations and other related material here at LP.

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A little of both, however I have not come across anything specific that mentions Quantum Lottery Theory. As the name suggest, there are some similarities to Quantum Mechanics. I've posted some of the equations and other related material here at LP.

Well that digit 2 hit in position 2 today....so the new second place record stands at 88

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 Posted: February 1, 2007, 12:20 am - IP Logged

Well that digit 2 hit in position 2 today....so the new second place record stands at 88

After looking at your excellent data, I played a hunch on 023 because its never been drawn.

When 123 hit and the "230" appeared in the Pick-4, it reminded me why I only play the Ohio Pick-3 once every five years.

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After looking at your excellent data, I played a hunch on 023 because its never been drawn.

When 123 hit and the "230" appeared in the Pick-4, it reminded me why I only play the Ohio Pick-3 once every five years.

Its funny you should mention 023.  I also played that number yesterday...but then again, I play that number almost every single drawing lol.  Actually, 023 has been drawn 3 times in Ohio: 11-26-81, 9-23-83, 1-7-84.

The last hit came 9,532 games ago!  Thats similar to seeing a single digit out in a specific position for 95 draws.  I think shes gonna hit before the year is out.

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 Posted: February 1, 2007, 12:07 pm - IP Logged

Great info, Thoth

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