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God, Satan, Money, and the Lottery

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Posted: March 16, 2007, 10:04 am - IP Logged

Peace and love! Smile

As you may know, I am a fan of the lottery. Like you, I too enjoy playing the game. It is very challenging and when you win, can be very rewarding, but some people think it is a sin to play gambling games.

Long before I started playing the lottery, I went to church every Sunday, where I studied the bible and learned some spiritual things. Among the lessons I learned was that Christ said "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil". A man cannot serve two masters, God and mammon(money).

Realizing that MUCH evil has been done "for the love of money", I decided to NEVER let money rule me. If the chance ever arises, I hope I can walk away from a million like it was a dime.

What are YOUR views on God, Satan, Money, and the lottery?

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    Posted: March 16, 2007, 10:21 am - IP Logged

    It also says it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to Heaven. It's two things, what you would do to GET money and what you would do WITH money. Sin is sin, and maybe more enabled by having the money to do things you normally couldn't, but also doing more good things is enabled. It's the heart of the person that determines how money affects them. You certainly can't go through life without it. Everyone's fear is that they will go through there whole life denying themselves enjoyment for the sake of holiness, only to "find out" when they die that there's nothing on the other side. So it's how strong a person's faith is. Yes I do play the Lottery, but the amounts I win aren't enough to cause trouble, pays a few bills or a food order or whatever, and I give a little to the Church. It's up to God if you win, or if you win big, because He knows how it would affect you. If a "bad" person wins it could either be to help them change their life for good, or it could be because they were "going to Hell anyway". I would want to go as much good as possible but it has to be to glorify God, not yourself. You have to be VERY careful here! I believe that if you trust God enough that He will provide what you need (through your own motivation and action and talents) and if not then there is some greater purpose. (I HOPE I could still feel this way in the middle of a crisis...) It's also about greed. The people who use their winnings for evil or to "serve money" as it were, often end up bankrupt in a few years anyway. I won't mention names.

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      Posted: March 16, 2007, 10:28 am - IP Logged

      I appreciate your reply and it was very well said! Thumbs Up

      I was listening to a Buddhist monk yesterday. He was describing the "Three Posions" , which are the primary sources for all evil deeds: Greed, Hatred, and Delusions.

      Greed: Greed is the cause of many offences. The five greedy desires are: wealth, sex, fame, eating, and sleeping.

      Greedy desire is endless and therefore can never be satisfied. The lesser the greedy desire, the happier and more satisfied we are. The best prescription to deal with greed is in giving away.

      Anger: Hatred to people is another cause of evil deed. We should not lose temper and get angry when we are unhappy. We should be calm and patient.

      Delusion: It means the persistent belief in something false and distorted. We have to observe and think in an objective and rational manner, so as to avoid prejudice and misunderstanding. For instance, if we don't believe in cause and effect, and then commit offence frequently and heavily, we will suffer from the retribution.

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      Perhaps that is why I see wealth as a test. If I became rich, the battle would intensify between Satan and me! (him trying to control me with money, and myself trying to remain free)

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        Posted: March 16, 2007, 10:53 am - IP Logged

        Of course, if I won the lotto, I wouldn't "walk away" from my wealth in reality.

        I mean that I make the money...the money don't make me! Wink

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          Posted: March 16, 2007, 10:54 am - IP Logged

          To know to do good and do it not it is a sin. KJV. So the way I look at playing the lottery or anything else its what you feel in your heart . when it becomes a sin is when u know its not right in your heart. I play the lottery and there has been many times that i placed it above God and i knew it was sin and I thank God that he is a forgiven God . People always uses the lottery as that one thing that they say is a sin . well the Bible teaches us that all sin . It also says that we should obey the law of the land . But how many people go the speed limit at what is posted ? if it says 55 we go 60 right ?.  So this is why God died on the Cross as he  knew we would never be perfect and he knew  we would need the free gift of salvation to enter into heaven and he made were we would not need a advocate to confess our sins wecan go straight to him . and ask . My last view is this . Do not let  anyone on earth confuse you as the bible clearly states study to show thyself approves rightfully dividing the word of truth . The devil is the author of confusion .

          May you all have a bless day

          Teresa

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            Posted: March 16, 2007, 11:06 am - IP Logged

            Thank you very much, LuckyGa3! I Agree!

            I once read in the Koran that gambling is a sin because if you lose, you can lose faith in God. I am watchful that when I lose, I never lose faith. As a matter of fact, I keep my lottery playing and my spiritual beliefs seperate. I never blame God when I lose, but when I win, I always give thanks! Thumbs Up

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              Posted: March 16, 2007, 11:26 am - IP Logged

              It is interesting that you bring this up. I have had it rough lately. I been diagnosed with panic disorder (debilitating), my grandmother just died, both of my vehicles have been messing up, my husband got caught driving with no insurance (need I say how much that is going to cost?) and nevermind that I had 5 of the 6 numbers picked out for megamillions draw last time that did come out, but didn't have money to play. Yeah, my faith is being tested. So, I started going to church again and praying more often. At first I thought "GOD must hate me, I have angered him." But when I look back on things, I see it could have been much much worse. So in fact, I am thankful to GOD, not mad.

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                Posted: March 16, 2007, 11:33 am - IP Logged

                and as far as I can see, there's nothing wrong with playing the lottery if it is keeping me from far worse things. Alcoholism, killing, gossiping....there are far worse things available.

                voir-vous dans mes reves!Cool

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                  Posted: March 16, 2007, 11:36 am - IP Logged

                  spy153,

                  Sorry to hear of your loss and misfortune. You're a wise woman. 

                  Good Luck to you and your family.

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                    Posted: March 16, 2007, 11:39 am - IP Logged

                    thanx Big Smile

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                      Posted: March 16, 2007, 11:41 am - IP Logged

                      You're welcome and thank you! Thumbs Up

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                        Posted: March 16, 2007, 11:54 am - IP Logged

                        It also says it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to Heaven. It's two things, what you would do to GET money and what you would do WITH money. Sin is sin, and maybe more enabled by having the money to do things you normally couldn't, but also doing more good things is enabled. It's the heart of the person that determines how money affects them. You certainly can't go through life without it. Everyone's fear is that they will go through there whole life denying themselves enjoyment for the sake of holiness, only to "find out" when they die that there's nothing on the other side. So it's how strong a person's faith is. Yes I do play the Lottery, but the amounts I win aren't enough to cause trouble, pays a few bills or a food order or whatever, and I give a little to the Church. It's up to God if you win, or if you win big, because He knows how it would affect you. If a "bad" person wins it could either be to help them change their life for good, or it could be because they were "going to Hell anyway". I would want to go as much good as possible but it has to be to glorify God, not yourself. You have to be VERY careful here! I believe that if you trust God enough that He will provide what you need (through your own motivation and action and talents) and if not then there is some greater purpose. (I HOPE I could still feel this way in the middle of a crisis...) It's also about greed. The people who use their winnings for evil or to "serve money" as it were, often end up bankrupt in a few years anyway. I won't mention names.

                        "It's up to God if you win, or if you win big, because He knows how it would affect you. If a "bad" person wins it could either be to help them change their life for good, or it could be because they were "going to Hell anyway"

                        LOL! The lottery websites should add that to their FAQ page:

                        Q: Are the winning numbers truly drawn at random?

                        A: Yes, but the actual people who win are chosen by God.

                         

                        No offense, but I seriously doubt that God has anything to do with who wins or who loses the lottery.

                        ~Probability=Odds in Motion~

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                          Posted: March 16, 2007, 12:22 pm - IP Logged

                          I don't know if God has anything to do with the lotto or not, but I know that yours is among the many great minds on Lottery Post.

                          How do you pronounce the name "Thoth", by the way? (I always call you "Thought" because you make me think.) LOL

                          I enjoy your posts. You are a true inspiration.

                          Thanks and keep up the good work! Thumbs Up

                           

                          To know what you know and to know what you do not know, is characteristic of one who knows--Lao Tse

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                            Posted: March 16, 2007, 12:33 pm - IP Logged

                            Tricky subject....  i know people that get out of church, and head straight to the casino's.  I will agree on this though...when I don't win, I don't get"mad" at God,.... but if I do win a little something,.....for some reason, i too give thanksThumbs Up nice post.

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                              Posted: March 16, 2007, 12:44 pm - IP Logged

                              I play the lottery and I believe in God. And I know that he knows your heart and what your intentions are with money. If a person wins a jackpot, you can pay off your bills and help people along the way. That is a good thing.  The lottery is for people to improve their lives.

                               

                              Whenever I win the lottery I thank God, because I believe that I have guidance.Wink