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POLL: "Reverso"

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Would you play "Reverso Lotto"

I'll try anything [ 5 ]  [20.83%]
Same exact thing, but sounds like fun [ 4 ]  [16.67%]
Sure, my numbers are never drawn! [ 2 ]  [8.33%]
I've got to see the odds argument on this [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
The number caller is going to be busy! [ 1 ]  [4.17%]
Linda Kollmeyer [ 2 ]  [8.33%]
Does it have cash option? [ 1 ]  [4.17%]
Will the playslip look like a negative photo? [ 1 ]  [4.17%]
What? [ 8 ]  [33.33%]
Other - explain [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
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Posted: March 28, 2007, 2:08 am - IP Logged

Here's the deal, state lottery game, same payout structure, 6 of 6 is a jackpot, payouts for 5, 4, and 3 out of 6.

Let's say it's a 6/49 game....live drawing, balls, but here's the difference.....43 balls are drawn, but the winning numbers are the six balls that are not drawn.

(Vegas actually did this with live Keno for a while).

So would you play? Kind of like lo ball poker, where the worst hand wins - people play because they never get good cards (and then go into a lo ball pot with a pair of Kings!)

PS

Re: 4, above, the odds argument- of course, they're the same, you're trying to get 6 out of 49.  

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Posted: March 28, 2007, 2:23 am - IP Logged

    Interesting idea. I can imagine that it would have some appeal to people who like to watch the drawing, because it would typically take longer to find out you didn't win the jackpot. Of course the added suspense might scare some people away or simply kill a few outright.

    For people who watch the drawing and match the five regular balls it could be excruciating torture waiting to see if their extra ball stays put.

    How about they just pick the regular balls, and then all of the  5+? winners are invited to a TV studio for a live drawing on Thursday evening.  The extra balls can go in briefcases and the winners can fight over which briefcase to open and discard. I envision enormous additional profits for the lotteries from selling the commercials.

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      Posted: March 28, 2007, 8:14 am - IP Logged

      I know you said State Lottery - but haven't played that in years.  On MM, I have had several QP tickets with none of the balls though.  I would definitely go for MM reverso.

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        Posted: March 28, 2007, 8:25 am - IP Logged

        Good idea! Most states will balk at playing this way, IMHO, since the setup and test draws for the last 6 balls in the drum will take some time. Wink

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          Posted: March 28, 2007, 9:48 am - IP Logged

          As long as I see my 6 numbers drawn, I don't care if they send a puppy to smell out the winning balls! 

          I realize it's not the same, but your reverse lotto idea reminds me a little of the TV show Deal or No Deal.  The game itself is (at least to me) monotonous and boring. Yet it is very popular because of the host, Howie Mandel, and the emotional, often lively & animated, contestants. But someone picks one case and then they go onto eliminate the others, hoping they'll get down to just a few cases with the top amounts of money, which can take up the entire hour. 

          I also like your idea, because it would take the state so long to run pre-tests using this method, that they probably would decide not to do them any more!  LOL 

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            Posted: March 28, 2007, 10:45 am - IP Logged

            Or they can try this.  Charge $1 for the "Reverso" option.  At the end of every jackpot drawing, they would minus the JP winning 5 balls in the tray (which would make it a 5/51 game for MM).  Then they would empty all the remaining balls into another tray and the last 5 balls would be the "Reverso" winning numbers.  The JP prize for that can start at like $350,000 or something like that and keep rolling every drawing if nobody wins.  So you have the 5+1 and the 5 ball reverso JP within a JP every drawing (or they could have the "REVERSO" option on Friday-MM/Saturday-PB only). 

            So it would read something like: "MM JP now at $38 Million Annuity, and the Reverso now at $748,759 Annuity!  And if you want to add on to that, draw one more bonus ball and if someone matches the "Bonus 2" ball, they double their "Reverso" payout.  If someone matches all 5 reverso and not the bonus, the reverso JP resets to the minimum of $350,000.  Any more than 3 reverso winners will be pari-mutual for all "main" jp's under $15 million, and "Bonus 2" payouts will be pari-mutual for all "main" jp's starting at $12 million.

            What do you all think about that?

             

            Also, I WANT MEGAPLIER IN NJ MM!! 

            Sun Smiley I got my fingers crossed ready to win!!! Sun Smiley

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              Posted: March 28, 2007, 5:33 pm - IP Logged

              OK- so do you want the playslip to look like a negative photo, you mark it with a white crayon- and do you want to have to mark the six numbers that are not drawn, or you have to mark the 43 that are drawn?

              Scared

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: March 28, 2007, 8:25 pm - IP Logged

                Definitely, I am a master of picking balls that are not selected. I will be a millioniare the first week, and possibly many times over. Better yet I will just let QP do all the work.

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                  Posted: March 28, 2007, 8:38 pm - IP Logged

                  two people picked linda kollmeyer!

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                    Posted: March 28, 2007, 9:11 pm - IP Logged

                    Or they can try this.  Charge $1 for the "Reverso" option.  At the end of every jackpot drawing, they would minus the JP winning 5 balls in the tray (which would make it a 5/51 game for MM).  Then they would empty all the remaining balls into another tray and the last 5 balls would be the "Reverso" winning numbers.  The JP prize for that can start at like $350,000 or something like that and keep rolling every drawing if nobody wins.  So you have the 5+1 and the 5 ball reverso JP within a JP every drawing (or they could have the "REVERSO" option on Friday-MM/Saturday-PB only). 

                    So it would read something like: "MM JP now at $38 Million Annuity, and the Reverso now at $748,759 Annuity!  And if you want to add on to that, draw one more bonus ball and if someone matches the "Bonus 2" ball, they double their "Reverso" payout.  If someone matches all 5 reverso and not the bonus, the reverso JP resets to the minimum of $350,000.  Any more than 3 reverso winners will be pari-mutual for all "main" jp's under $15 million, and "Bonus 2" payouts will be pari-mutual for all "main" jp's starting at $12 million.

                    What do you all think about that?

                     

                    Also, I WANT MEGAPLIER IN NJ MM!! 

                    So what do you guys think?

                    Sun Smiley I got my fingers crossed ready to win!!! Sun Smiley

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                      Posted: March 28, 2007, 9:15 pm - IP Logged

                      Nah, there's no point.

                      Gonna win.Big Smile

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                        Posted: March 28, 2007, 10:24 pm - IP Logged

                        Here's the deal, state lottery game, same payout structure, 6 of 6 is a jackpot, payouts for 5, 4, and 3 out of 6.

                        Let's say it's a 6/49 game....live drawing, balls, but here's the difference.....43 balls are drawn, but the winning numbers are the six balls that are not drawn.

                        (Vegas actually did this with live Keno for a while).

                        So would you play? Kind of like lo ball poker, where the worst hand wins - people play because they never get good cards (and then go into a lo ball pot with a pair of Kings!)

                        PS

                        Re: 4, above, the odds argument- of course, they're the same, you're trying to get 6 out of 49.  

                        That would be incredibly easy to win, I'd do it in a second - IF that long.

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                          Posted: March 29, 2007, 1:15 am - IP Logged

                          As long as I see my 6 numbers drawn, I don't care if they send a puppy to smell out the winning balls! 

                          I realize it's not the same, but your reverse lotto idea reminds me a little of the TV show Deal or No Deal.  The game itself is (at least to me) monotonous and boring. Yet it is very popular because of the host, Howie Mandel, and the emotional, often lively & animated, contestants. But someone picks one case and then they go onto eliminate the others, hoping they'll get down to just a few cases with the top amounts of money, which can take up the entire hour. 

                          I also like your idea, because it would take the state so long to run pre-tests using this method, that they probably would decide not to do them any more!  LOL 

                          I rememberd you mentioned Deal or No Deal, had to find the post.  

                          That show really has me wondering, where's the justice? Someone could go on Deal or No Deal, and win a million (or two!), on nothing but pure blind luck. someone else could go on Jeopardy opr Who Wants to Be A Millionaire and get eliminated because they didn't know something like the running mate of the presidiential candidate who lost the election in 1956, or something of that difficulty level or harder.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            Posted: March 29, 2007, 4:04 am - IP Logged

                            That show really has me wondering, where's the justice?

                             

                            Coin Toss, isn't that the same as the Lottery?  Nobody checks for IQ, class, business sense or even blood pressure before the drawing.  So many times someone wins who has only played a few times in his life or bought a quick pick on a whim. It's never about justice.

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                              Posted: March 29, 2007, 9:57 am - IP Logged

                              Yeah, but with the lottery everyone has the chance to just go buy a ticket - not like you have to go to the show, hope to get chosen out of the audience (or audtitio somewhere), etc...

                              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                              Lep

                              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.