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Posted: March 31, 2007, 12:08 am - IP Logged

I am very confident that IL runs its lottery drawings in an honest manner.  If I wasn't I wouldn't play it.  Technical glitches happen.  A state lottery would have to be insane to shoot their "cash cow" in the foot.

As I've mentioned here before, I have a friend who worked as a WGN stagehand for years and the lottery was one of his daily assignments.  His description of the process they go through to pick the ball sets, the machines, conduct the pre-draw tests and the actual draw convinces me there is no evil underfoot.  The one minute drawing takes about 2 hours to prepare for and the whole process is overseen by an independent auditing company. 

rick - same in ga.

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    Yes I hear you four4me. Models also have hickups on the runway but they dont stop they make the best of it and that what I would have expected from them but who am I right? News reporters also make mistake but show goes on so you dont have to be sarcastic about it.

    while i didn't see that particular drawing there was talk about it on lottery post when it happened.

    Many states have live drawings some of them 2 times a day, sooner or later there are going to be slip ups. here in Maryland we have a different TV station doing the drawings, almost every day for the last week or two they have flubbed the drawing either the camera isn't on the balls or they are miscuing their drawing. While i find it disturbing i don't think it a conspiracy. I feel it's just an awkward situation being cough on film. Sure i am angry when i see the foul ups but am helpless to do anything about it. Do i think their trying to pull a fast on on us players. No! i don't! it's just some bumbling, fumbling camera person whom is probably in training.

    Will it happen again maybe yes maybe not. i will tell you that every precaution is in place for these drawings and they don't want to do anything that might get them cough cheating. They have nothing to gain by cheating the lottery drawing. except jail time.

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      Posted: April 2, 2007, 10:04 am - IP Logged

      I appreciated every one who read and contributed to this post and for the record I am not  stating that there is a lottery conspiracy.

      But what I am really trying to find out is if the majority of professional lottery(P3,P4,P5,6/53) players used systems or methods that rely on previous draws and the lottery drawing have rehersal and test drawings are they rehearsing and testing one ball for that particular draw or does the ball keep changing for every rehearsal and when its time to go on live what ever ball is drawn is the official result. If the winning numbers keep changing in rehearsal how could one accurately predict base on previous drawings when we as players wont know the reheasal  numbers.

      I hope someone on LP understands what I am trying to figure out and could please put my mind to rest with a reasonable answer, starting off with does the results change in reheasal or is it the same result for live and rehearsal on that particular midday draw. Thank You.


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        Posted: April 2, 2007, 1:33 pm - IP Logged

        I appreciated every one who read and contributed to this post and for the record I am not  stating that there is a lottery conspiracy.

        But what I am really trying to find out is if the majority of professional lottery(P3,P4,P5,6/53) players used systems or methods that rely on previous draws and the lottery drawing have rehersal and test drawings are they rehearsing and testing one ball for that particular draw or does the ball keep changing for every rehearsal and when its time to go on live what ever ball is drawn is the official result. If the winning numbers keep changing in rehearsal how could one accurately predict base on previous drawings when we as players wont know the reheasal  numbers.

        I hope someone on LP understands what I am trying to figure out and could please put my mind to rest with a reasonable answer, starting off with does the results change in reheasal or is it the same result for live and rehearsal on that particular midday draw. Thank You.

        The rehearsal draw is merely a testing of each machine with all ten balls in it.  They are checking to see if each machine is operating properly and to make sure the same ball doesn't keep popping up in a particular machine.

        When that is finished then the real draw is held and those are the official numbers.  I know this for a fact in the IL drawings.

        Personally I wouldn't worry about test draw results.  It's like a baseball pitcher who is warming up on the mound...his balls and strikes don't count. 

        Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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          Posted: April 2, 2007, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

          People all the time, after losing a $5 bet, accuse the casinos of cheating. We'd have to try and explain to them that no casino was going to do somdething to risk their license to get their $5.

          I don't think a state lottery would risk losing a cash cow like lotto.

          Not saying it never has or couldn't happen, but it doesn't really 'compute'.

          RickG

          Does Linda know about being replaced by a racing pony? Must have been a longshot that paid nicely! 

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: April 2, 2007, 2:20 pm - IP Logged

            I appreciated every one who read and contributed to this post and for the record I am not  stating that there is a lottery conspiracy.

            But what I am really trying to find out is if the majority of professional lottery(P3,P4,P5,6/53) players used systems or methods that rely on previous draws and the lottery drawing have rehersal and test drawings are they rehearsing and testing one ball for that particular draw or does the ball keep changing for every rehearsal and when its time to go on live what ever ball is drawn is the official result. If the winning numbers keep changing in rehearsal how could one accurately predict base on previous drawings when we as players wont know the reheasal  numbers.

            I hope someone on LP understands what I am trying to figure out and could please put my mind to rest with a reasonable answer, starting off with does the results change in reheasal or is it the same result for live and rehearsal on that particular midday draw. Thank You.

            What is a "professional lottery player"?  Professionals have skills which they use to make a living.  Professional gambles have both skill and luck when they gamble but lotteries try to eliminate everything but luck from playing the lotteries by having totally random drawings with unpredictable outcomes.  If skill is involved in winning lotteries then then "professional lottery players" are keeping it a secret.  I doubt if there are any "professional lottery players" because I hardly ever hear of the same person or group winning a lottery jackpot more than once.

            I once worked in time-study and one theory was you didn't have to see everything to know what was happening, you could use work sampling instead.  Like a bowl of soup you can tell what's in it by sampling a spoon of it rather than consuming the whole bowl.  Likewise players who used only the posted results of past drawings are getting a sampling of all the drawings including the test drawings and if there's a trend and/or a pattern that can be helpful in predicting winning numbers then it should show up in the posted drawings too, it just takes a larger sample.

            If you think the lotteries are hard or impossible to predict then the people who are running  them are doing their job.  If lotteries were easy to predict then odds of 1:100M of winning a jackpot would have no meaning.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: April 2, 2007, 10:23 pm - IP Logged

              I appreciated every one who read and contributed to this post and for the record I am not  stating that there is a lottery conspiracy.

              But what I am really trying to find out is if the majority of professional lottery(P3,P4,P5,6/53) players used systems or methods that rely on previous draws and the lottery drawing have rehersal and test drawings are they rehearsing and testing one ball for that particular draw or does the ball keep changing for every rehearsal and when its time to go on live what ever ball is drawn is the official result. If the winning numbers keep changing in rehearsal how could one accurately predict base on previous drawings when we as players wont know the reheasal  numbers.

              I hope someone on LP understands what I am trying to figure out and could please put my mind to rest with a reasonable answer, starting off with does the results change in reheasal or is it the same result for live and rehearsal on that particular midday draw. Thank You.

              "But what I am really trying to find out is if the majority of professional lottery(P3,P4,P5,6/53) players used systems or methods that rely on previous draws and the lottery drawing have rehersal and test drawings are they rehearsing and testing one ball for that particular draw or does the ball keep changing for every rehearsal"

              Past histories are used for predicting numbers in most systems and are used in filtering. Rehearsals and test draws were part of it too, but not recorded so the data is based on the actual numbers drawn.

              I assume by "professional lottery players" you mean people that win more than they lose because I doubt anyone could make a career and/or a decent living betting on the outcome of random draws.