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A Good Conspiracy Theory

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Posted: April 13, 2007, 10:52 am - IP Logged

Wink  I was daydreaming, and I really do not believe in "conspiracies" as far as politics or business goes. I think most conspiracies were thought of as they happened, like the Enron fiasco, instead of someone sitting down and planning to ensure world domination in 15 years time. Others believe otherwise, I have no argument with them or their beliefs.

So someone develops a system for hitting Cash 3 or Cash 4 on a reliable basis. The lottery commission notices someone is cashing in on a regular basis for big wins. They hire detectives to track this person. And to keep this  system from getting out into the public, which would destroy the state lotteries, they offer to guarantee this person a certain income for not using or distributing the system, or otherwise violating their agreement. So there is a system that will produce reliably out there, some lottery commission has it locked away, and someone is living in the south of France with a guaranteed income.

Possible? Anything is possible. Probable? I wonder.  An intriguing story? Yes.  

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    That kind of thing is fun to daydream about, but I hope there aren't many people who are nervous about that scenario becoming reality.

    It would be nice if someone would first come up with a system that always wins, and then we can see what happens to them.  But that hasn't happened yet.

     

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      First, I'd imagine that if someone ever cashed 50 straight tickets a day, that they wouldn't do so at one store. Personally, I would cash 5 tickets at 10 stores, and change them everyday, even if it meant driving somewhat long distances.

      Secondly, I have a hard time believing that anyone could ever correctly follow the natural flow of chaos and break it's code, as long as the lottery officials keep messing around with the tube shuffling and pretests.

      That being said, even if the officials didn't mess with the machines, I would still have a hard time believing that it's even remotely possible for any person to break the code on a consistent basis, considering the many many variables that exist in the p-3 and p-4. 

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        Posted: April 13, 2007, 1:13 pm - IP Logged

        Should anyone find that holy grail and win the jackpot many, many times in a row, every state will switch immediately to QP's only.

        There is no way any lottory will pay someone not to play; at least, not until all their options are exhausted.  QP's only is a sure way of circumventing any winning system

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          Posted: April 13, 2007, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

          Since the lottery is NOT Rigged as most people believe (not me though), then their is no code to break.... The only way to assure yourself of a win ever draw is to play every combination which is unrealistic. While I respect everyone's effort in trying to come up with ways to decipher what the next draw is ( I also do), by doing so is suggesting the lottery is rigged, right? I think so..


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            Since the lottery is NOT Rigged as most people believe (not me though), then their is no code to break.... The only way to assure yourself of a win ever draw is to play every combination which is unrealistic. While I respect everyone's effort in trying to come up with ways to decipher what the next draw is ( I also do), by doing so is suggesting the lottery is rigged, right? I think so..

            It's not rigged in my opinion. It's tampered with.

            There is a code in my opinion, and it's immensely complicated. It also changes slightly with every drawing, sort of like a morphing code within the master code.

            If you ever saw the movie "Contact", you'll remember that after trying to understand the messages the aliens were giving, they had to resort to thinking outside the box, when breaking the alien's coded messages. It turned out that the messages were to be put into a 3-dimensional formation in order to see the message. I thought that was brilliant.

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              Posted: April 13, 2007, 6:10 pm - IP Logged

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              "So someone develops a system for hitting Cash 3 or Cash 4 on a reliable basis. The lottery commission notices someone is cashing in on a regular basis for big wins."

               Never say never, but I would like to think someone sharp enough to develop such a system would also be sharp enough to stick to Pick 3 payoffs under any taxable amount.

              Nice and 'quiet' payoffs, hand in the ticket and collect $40, $80, $290, $500, whatever. Anything other than that, someone collecting winnings and filling out tax forms everytime, everyday, would just be yet another example of greed doing someone in, even someone, or especially someone, sharp enough to beat the game consistently. 

              As others have mentioned in this thread, lotteries are in business to make money, not distrubute it to everyone.

              In any form of gambling, the losers pay the winners and the house keeps the rest after the winners are paid. There's no other way for the lotery, or a casino, or a racetrack to operate. 

              Even in poker, the players pay each opther and the house rakes the pot.  In some rooms the house not only rakes the pot but charges for the seats.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: April 13, 2007, 6:27 pm - IP Logged

                I remember reading a story on  here about a new computer that can pick 1000's of numbers a minute, just wondering that if thats the case all the numbers we play have been drawn already and as we try to figure systems out that there is not a one system that can break this code. I have added a midday number and a evening number together before and come up with 1441 which in turn I played 545 and won 500.hundred dollars but its not consistant and have tried this other times and it does work. So I don't think there is just one way to figure the pick 3 pick four or any lottery game out. People can play a number 100 times and win without changing the next lottery number. So I think that Someone trying to figure the pick 3 ect...... out needs more that one system.

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                  Posted: April 13, 2007, 6:47 pm - IP Logged

                  Maybe that's who those two "landscapers" are that always hang out in the Broadway Boys parking lot watching me? I think if a system were that reliable the "income" would have to be a LOT to be worth taking the offer, because they could just say "screw you, I'll play 1.00 instead of .50 and double my own income!" Or if the prg. is that good and could be proven via backtest the person would make millions selling it plus get more attention about it. The upside if the story were real is that the drawings ARE predictable and we just have to figure out how on our own. I think the real (sad) answer is they would change the drawing mechanism or methods or switch to RNG drawings.

                  If you want to avoid the Lottery noticing you cashing prizes, win amounts that don't require a claim form, don't sign any of these tickets, and vary your play locations. States switching to requiring you to play QP is a very bad option vs. computerizing the drawings, many people would quit playing and I'd quit playing anything below Jackpot-5.

                  Also I can write you a program that can pick 1000 numbers a minute. I don't see why the Lottery would restrict #s of winners in a pari-mutuel game but maybe on fixed prizes. You can usually check to see how many winners there were per prize level. I've not seen anything suspicious yet.

                  I won 3 times yesterday, don't tell them! Shhhhhh....