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SirMetro's subtract from 39 method Update

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Posted: April 22, 2007, 2:32 pm - IP Logged

For a refresher, look back to here for the basis of my "Subtract from method"  http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/141307

Following is a review as well as an update to this method. If I appear incoherent at times, I apologize in advance. Am currently fighting a headache as I attempt to transfer my thoughts to print in a manner that a normal thinking individual can discern something usuable from my scribblings and ramblings. (And they say some things are impossible...who knows, they could still be right).

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    Posted: April 22, 2007, 2:48 pm - IP Logged

    For starters, I have modified and adapted this method to apply to the MegaMillion, Fantasy 5 and Win4Life. For each, the foremost modification I made was to change the 39 to 40 on Fantasy 5, 57 for Megamillions and 43 for Win4Life. This insures you can receive both 1 and 39 or whatever the highest number that is playable in the game at some point in time.

    The next major modification I have incorporated is the incorporation of Pi. Now personally, I don't hold any mystic belief or ideals about Pi. It's merely a mathmatical formula that may (or may not) help me in acheiving an ends to my means. In Excel, my formula looks like this;

    =ROUND((((((22/7)*43)-((22/7)*C2))/43)*10),0) <--Win4Life used here

    Pi=22/7 <---for those who may not have known

    The *10 moves the result one additional decimal. Otherwise, we would never get higher then 9. The ROUND command is to eliminate the decimal (important later on).

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      Posted: April 22, 2007, 2:52 pm - IP Logged

      The next several Methods are also applied

      Minus System 

      43-C2  <--Original value minus the highest value plus 1

      43-Pi system <-- Twisted Pi system

      and also finally, to cap it off, an Average of each System

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        Next, I have a chart stretching from 1 to 42 and below that chart, I use excel to look at the various systems and if the number appeared in any of the systems, it would not show in this table. Hence my name for this table is the "Left-Overs".

         

        0102030405060708091011121314151617181920
        0102030405060809111317
        01021214161718
        0102070809111216
        050608091118

         

        (First row is just a list of numbers)

        The excel formula I use here is this

        =IF((COUNTIF($K2:$BM2,BP$1))>0,"",BP$1)

        This method works because if BP$1=1 and it occurs at least 1 time in any of the systems, it would get blanked out. Now, you can reverse the system and have it only list, in order, all the numbers your system creates.

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          Finally, I created a set of tables that allowed me to review just how well my so-called "Systems" did compared to the numbers "Left-Over". It looks something like this

           

          Left-over NumbersLeftOverSystemSystem Numbers
                 2121       
              14  152703041013 2906
            34 37  16260530 35 3823
                381329101219242537 
               39 12300214202430 42
          0117    251032  18313239 
           0425 343805132901  30   
             13   1032030610 294126
            08  37 15270405 2131 17
          010308  38111725   1216  

           

          The Excel formula for the Left-over Numbers Table is this

          =IF((COUNTIF($BP3:$DE3,C2))>0,C2,"")

          The Excel formula for the System Numbers Table is this

          =IF((COUNTIF($K3:$BM3,C2))>0,C2,"")

          And to put the icing on the cake, I used conditional formating to highlight the cells with a color if a number showed up.

          One final note, the tables represent what the last set of numbers did in comparision to the System and/or Left-over numbers.

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            Posted: April 22, 2007, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

            One other note; the numbers between the 2 charts tell you how many numbers were created by the system versus those left-over.

            And yes, this seems like a lot of numbers. But I ask this, would you rather pick from 27 numbers or 42 numbers and still be able to hit the big one? I like the lowered count personally, but hey, that's my personal preference.

            Good Luck to all.

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              Posted: April 23, 2007, 12:10 am - IP Logged

              After adjusting a wheel to reflect actuals, had I played the 20 sets, it would have resulted in a return of 6 Free Tickets. The good news is, 4 of the 5 numbers appeared from the system. Too bad the wheel didn't reflect no more then 2 per set. However, when used by a system created by a professional (sorry, do not recall who to provide appropiate credit), it too returned 6 free tickets plus one 3 of 5 worth around $7 to $9 (not sure of exact amount).

              04/22/07 07-14-21-23-34 <-Actual Numbers

              (Wheel Created by Me, uses 25 numbers)
              07-22-23-24-25 <- 2 of 5
              07-08-13-21-25 <- 2 of 5
              07-14-17-31-37 <- 2 of 5
              07-21-25-29-36 <- 2 of 5
              07-12-18-21-22 <- 2 of 5
              07-16-21-28-30 <- 2 of 5

              (Wheel Created by a Professional, uses 16 numbers)
              03-07-08-13-23 <- 2 of 5
              03-07-12-18-21 <- 2 of 5
              03-08-09-21-25 <- 2 of 5
              03-14-20-21-23 <- 3 of 5 - worth around $7 to $9
              07-08-14-17-24 <- 2 of 5
              07-16-17-23-25 <- 2 of 5
              12-13-21-23-25 <- 2 of 5

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                Posted: April 23, 2007, 12:23 am - IP Logged

                Sidebar - In applying the process to the MegaMillions numbers, it appears that the Left-Over numbers seem to perform better then the System numbers.

                Guess it goes to show, that what may work for one lottery, may need to be viewed in a different light for other Lotteries. In this case, the System numbers would most likely be the numbers one should NOT play instead of those to play.

                 

                01811
                18060
                2165156
                3165168
                47196
                51523

                 

                First Column is the number of blank or non-matching for both Left-Over Numbers and System Numbers

                The Second Column is the Left over Numbers

                The Third Column is the System Numbers

                This little chart simply show the overall results, nothing more.

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                  Posted: April 23, 2007, 8:39 am - IP Logged

                  Thank you Mr. SirMetro, I always found your 39 thingy fascinating just couldn't get past 2 out of 5; so i'll have try these out. Thank you.

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                    Sidebar - In applying the process to the MegaMillions numbers, it appears that the Left-Over numbers seem to perform better then the System numbers.

                    Guess it goes to show, that what may work for one lottery, may need to be viewed in a different light for other Lotteries. In this case, the System numbers would most likely be the numbers one should NOT play instead of those to play.

                     

                    01811
                    18060
                    2165156
                    3165168
                    47196
                    51523

                     

                    First Column is the number of blank or non-matching for both Left-Over Numbers and System Numbers

                    The Second Column is the Left over Numbers

                    The Third Column is the System Numbers

                    This little chart simply show the overall results, nothing more.

                    Sir Metro,

                     

                    The subtract 39 method does not work for FLorida Fantasy 5...I tried subtract 36 not even one match. What strategies do you have for Florida Fantasy 5?

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                      Posted: April 25, 2007, 1:49 pm - IP Logged

                      could you share your spreadsheet to try using for the pick 4  to test in mass. thanks

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                        could you share your spreadsheet to try using for the pick 4  to test in mass. thanks

                        Retxx...sorry, but the data in this post is for Pick5, and up numbers. It is NOT intended for Pick4 or Pick3 games I would not even bother to take the time to make it adaptable. However, please feel free to use the information anyway you please.

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                          Posted: April 25, 2007, 4:43 pm - IP Logged

                          A quick review of the past 10 draws shows my system works fantastic for Florida

                           

                           

                          Left-over NumbersLeft OverSystemSystem Numbers
                               1524     
                            21  12270316 2731Tue, Apr 24, 2007
                             23 1425010307 29Mon, Apr 23, 2007
                          0105 35362118  24  Sun, Apr 22, 2007
                             21 1425141519 24Sat, Apr 21, 2007
                           06  36152402 1117 Fri, Apr 20, 2007
                          02    1128 13161823Thu, Apr 19, 2007
                               12270507202223Wed, Apr 18, 2007
                              32162303151730 Tue, Apr 17, 2007
                          03 1016171425 08   Mon, Apr 16, 2007

                           

                          In 10 draws, 8 yeilded positive benefits with my system averaging 4 numbers per game while only 2 out of 10 was in the left over numbers. Sorry, I am not sure what you did or didn't do right, but the results are very clear above.

                          FYI...I do not have the time to do all states and I do not track any state other then Georgia. I will happily share what I know (or at least what I think I know) with anyone. I am sorry I don't have the time to do the work outs for folks.

                          However, for tonite (and tonite only), the string for Florida Fantasy 5 is

                          03-05-06-08-10-11-12-14-16-18-19-21-22-23-24-26-27-29-30-32-34

                          There is a total of 24 numbers (out of a possible 36)

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                            Posted: April 26, 2007, 8:45 am - IP Logged

                            Florida's Fantasy 5 was 09-11-15-29-30

                            The string for last nite was

                            03-05-06-08-10-11-12-14-16-18-19-21-22-23-24-26-27-29-30-32-34

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                              Florida's Fantasy 5 was 09-11-15-29-30

                              The string for last nite was

                              03-05-06-08-10-11-12-14-16-18-19-21-22-23-24-26-27-29-30-32-34

                               How do you select the strings to play? BTW, thanks for spreadsheet! I update with Fla draws, but I'm confused on string selection.