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justxploring's avatar - villiarna
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Posted: April 25, 2007, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

The following numbers were drawn last night for Florida Fantasy5.  2 winners will share $235,613.02

The winning FANTASY 5 numbers were:

03 - 16 - 21 - 27 - 31

The winning tickets were sold at the following locations

Publix - Quick Pick
24600 S. Tamiami Trail, Suite 300
Bonita Springs (Lee County)

Royal Palm Beach Hess - Quick Pick
11711 Okeechobee Boulevard
Royal Palm Beach (Palm Beach County)

 

So why am I posting?  Because every day of the week I go into this Publix for one reason or another. (see note below..I got the wrong address)  Sometimes it's just to get milk or a newspaper.  Yesterday I bought 2 MegaMoney and 2 Fantasy5 tickets at another Publix about 8 miles north on the way home from Fort Myers.  Of course I have no idea how many tickets were sold yesterday at this store location, so maybe it doesn't matter at all.  The winning ticket could have been purchased early in the morning or, even if I bought my tickets there yesterday, the person in front or in back of me could have been the lucky winner.

Just has to be your time and your place I guess.

 

OMG!  This is the place I bought my tickets yesterday.  I just mapquested the address.  So it wasn't the wrong place.  I'm editing the topic from Wrong Place/Wrong Time to Right Place/Wrong Time.

  Thud


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    Posted: April 25, 2007, 12:53 pm - IP Logged

    Congratulations....WTG...Hurray!

    Don't spend it all at once justxploring...

    I would sign the ticket right away.

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      Posted: April 25, 2007, 2:09 pm - IP Logged

      Congratulations....WTG...Hurray!

      Don't spend it all at once justxploring...

      I would sign the ticket right away.

      What? Justxploring isn't the winner.

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        Posted: April 25, 2007, 2:59 pm - IP Logged

        When I check the lottery website for winners and their locations, I know the right location could be any where since I pick my own numbers so I played the right game/wrong combination even if all the winning numbers were in adjacent lines on my losing ticket. 

        I'm halfway there because I'm playing the right game, it's that right combination that I've got to work on now.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: April 25, 2007, 5:14 pm - IP Logged

          When I check the lottery website for winners and their locations, I know the right location could be any where since I pick my own numbers so I played the right game/wrong combination even if all the winning numbers were in adjacent lines on my losing ticket. 

          I'm halfway there because I'm playing the right game, it's that right combination that I've got to work on now.

          Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  But this was a QP.  Someone yesterday won $117K where I was standing hours, minutes, seconds before/after.  But who knows?  Maybe if I didn't stop to pickup a frozen dinner or if I had walked just a little bit slower from my car or.....


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            Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  But this was a QP.  Someone yesterday won $117K where I was standing hours, minutes, seconds before/after.  But who knows?  Maybe if I didn't stop to pickup a frozen dinner or if I had walked just a little bit slower from my car or.....

            If is a mighty big word.

            "IF a grasshopper had a machine gun, the birds wouldn't bother it"....LOL (Author: Clyde Adams- A Navy buddy)

            Most people don't realize that all of us win the lottery many times over on a daily basis, and the only difference is that it doesen't involve the lottery.

            We get up in the morning, God willing....We just beat the odds. We take a shower without slipping in the tub and breaking our necks. We drive to work without being hit by someone not paying attention to what their doing on the road, or at night with a drunk driver. We beat the odds. We live our lives in peace whithout a terrorist blowing us up. We beat the odds.

            We fly on jet planes without crashing. We trust the fast food restaurants when we order something and don't get sick from food poisoning. We beat the odds.

            We have our kids returned safely from school 5 days a week without the bus driver crashing. We beat the odds. And on and on...

            Sometimes I have to remember those things when I get too angry about how life seems so unfair. Because if I don't, you might as well put me in a looney bin...LOL

            P.S. There have been times in my life where exceptional events happened which eclipse all the miracles listed above. But without boring everyone, I'll only tell you of the one that was the best unbelievable event that would have been the equivalent of a major powerball win, atleast in my opinion.

            In 1988 I was living in Tonopah Arizona, in a mobile home. On one occasion I was so bored, that I took a plastic cup full of pennies, and went to one end of the trailer and with all my might throwing them one at a time, out to the other end of the trailer with all the enrgy I had. I know...stupid....

            Anyway, here's where I felt like I was in the twilight zone. Two miracles happened all together, this is the first one. My first pitch of the penny hit the other side of the trailer wall, bounced a few times and landed on the inside of a lamp shade, rolling on it's edge, starting from the top, just like those motorcycle tricks at the circus, and kept rolling slowly all the way down to the bottom of the shade. WOW!!

            The second one was about 2 minutes later, when I retrieved most of the pennies on the floor and started the whole thing one more time, this time from the other end. Lo and behold, my first pitch, the penny bounced all over the place and finally landed in the same plastic cup from where I got the pennies in the first place, but now the cup was situated somewhere else. I think it was now on the kitchen island. WOW!! Two first pitches in a row...

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              Posted: April 25, 2007, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

              Those neurons are really hot tonite, I see!

              The nature of the QuickPick terminal is probably a buzzing quartz crystal that sends a stream of numbers at an unimaginable rate. The very exact timing of the clerk hitting the Enter key on the terminal determines the exact instant the stream is sampled. Even the slightest variation will give a totally different set of numbers. You could have won if you took an extra few seconds to hold the door for someone OR even if you didn't hold the door but instead glanced at the newspapers for a second. Similarly you could have prevented either you OR the actual winner from winning by ever so slightly changing the timing i.e. if you got in front of them on the highway vs. behind them or any other slight change. You and everyone else indirectly helped the winner win without knowing it. Of course for NON-QP none of this may apply.

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                Those neurons are really hot tonite, I see!

                The nature of the QuickPick terminal is probably a buzzing quartz crystal that sends a stream of numbers at an unimaginable rate. The very exact timing of the clerk hitting the Enter key on the terminal determines the exact instant the stream is sampled. Even the slightest variation will give a totally different set of numbers. You could have won if you took an extra few seconds to hold the door for someone OR even if you didn't hold the door but instead glanced at the newspapers for a second. Similarly you could have prevented either you OR the actual winner from winning by ever so slightly changing the timing i.e. if you got in front of them on the highway vs. behind them or any other slight change. You and everyone else indirectly helped the winner win without knowing it. Of course for NON-QP none of this may apply.

                Thanks.  I feel much better now. LOL

                 

                Seriously, I hate to sound stupid but are you saying that if I buy 3 Fant 5 tickets at 5:05pm and the next person who gets a Fant 5 tickets buys 2 at 5:25pm, I wouldn't get his 2 combinations had I purchased 5 in the first place? 

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                  Thanks.  I feel much better now. LOL

                   

                  Seriously, I hate to sound stupid but are you saying that if I buy 3 Fant 5 tickets at 5:05pm and the next person who gets a Fant 5 tickets buys 2 at 5:25pm, I wouldn't get his 2 combinations had I purchased 5 in the first place? 

                  In many of his books the late Kurt Vonnegut used to talk about something happening and nothing at all could have been done to change it because that moment in time was structured that way...

                  I think LckyLary is exactly right, you wouldn't get his two. It's not like the numbers are being dealt from a deck of cards or even a six deck shoe or something, or that the QP is dealing with a small group of combinations of numbers. 

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

                  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                    In many of his books the late Kurt Vonnegut used to talk about something happening and nothing at all could have been done to change it because that moment in time was structured that way...

                    I think LckyLary is exactly right, you wouldn't get his two. It's not like the numbers are being dealt from a deck of cards or even a six deck shoe or something, or that the QP is dealing with a small group of combinations of numbers. 

                    Okay - I get it. 

                    Sometimes it still looks like a horse in striped pajamas to me however. 


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                      Thanks.  I feel much better now. LOL

                       

                      Seriously, I hate to sound stupid but are you saying that if I buy 3 Fant 5 tickets at 5:05pm and the next person who gets a Fant 5 tickets buys 2 at 5:25pm, I wouldn't get his 2 combinations had I purchased 5 in the first place? 

                      I don't know how the machines work in Florida, but when I lived in California, a friend was working behind a counter at a liquor store. He asked me to come behind the counter one day, and asked me to look at the list of p-3 numbers that were generated by the machine.

                      He asked me if I liked any of the numbers on the list, on the screen. I told him that I didn't like any of them, and then I asked him to hit the generator for a better list. He said that he couldn't. That list had to be used up before more could be available. So atleast in Cali, you can't just keep hitting the button over and over agin for a new list.

                      I always thought the opposite. I always thought that when someone asks for a QP, that the machine, at that very moment generates the numbers instantaneously, and not just sitting there on a previously made list.

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                        I don't know how the machines work in Florida, but when I lived in California, a friend was working behind a counter at a liquor store. He asked me to come behind the counter one day, and asked me to look at the list of p-3 numbers that were generated by the machine.

                        He asked me if I liked any of the numbers on the list, on the screen. I told him that I didn't like any of them, and then I asked him to hit the generator for a better list. He said that he couldn't. That list had to be used up before more could be available. So atleast in Cali, you can't just keep hitting the button over and over agin for a new list.

                        I always thought the opposite. I always thought that when someone asks for a QP, that the machine, at that very moment generates the numbers instantaneously, and not just sitting there on a previously made list.

                        What? 

                        This doesn't make sense to me, Pac.  How could the terminal have generated numbers before buying the tickets?  I thought that at the moment I said "I want 5 quickpicks" some kind of RNG would use the machine's algorithm to produce combinations based on time, previous picks, etc.  I've read that stores often run tickets ahead of time for PB and MM when it's very busy, but I didn't think they could actually look at the screen and "select" the numbers.  It concerns me that someone working in a store can actually view the list of numbers before they are printed.

                        Just like you, I assumed that the numbers are only generated when someone buys a ticket or at least when the ticket is printed.


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                          What? 

                          This doesn't make sense to me, Pac.  How could the terminal have generated numbers before buying the tickets?  I thought that at the moment I said "I want 5 quickpicks" some kind of RNG would use the machine's algorithm to produce combinations based on time, previous picks, etc.  I've read that stores often run tickets ahead of time for PB and MM when it's very busy, but I didn't think they could actually look at the screen and "select" the numbers.  It concerns me that someone working in a store can actually view the list of numbers before they are printed.

                          Just like you, I assumed that the numbers are only generated when someone buys a ticket or at least when the ticket is printed.

                          Again, I don't know if it's the case here in Florida.

                          I'm thinking like this:

                          Someone comes in and purchases 20 Qps. Let'say that the terminal screen holds 20 qps in the list. Someone just bought that list. So now it generates 20 more, so when the next person comes in to buy 5 10 or 17, whatever, it's already there to be printed out.

                          I don't know for sure, but I'm only going by what I experienced in Cali. I don't like it either, but again, an rng is an rng, whether it's been sitting there 2 hours, or just generated when the clerk hits the button.

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                            That would mean that if I had just spent a few more dollars, I could have won over $117,000 instead of nothing.  I would rather believe what LckyLary wrote, so I don't beat myself up too much since I stopped and thought "maybe I should buy a few more." Knowing that I hardly ever go into that store and for no reason decided to stop there, then suddenly that very day someone wins Fantasy 5 at that retailer shouldn't upset me, because that's the luck of the draw. I'm sure 100 other people bought tickets at that terminal too.  Plus the winner could have bought his ticket several hours before I walked in or even had an advanced play. I've seen people buy quickpicks for several draws.  In any case, I'd rather believe that the winning number wasn't just "sitting there" waiting for the right person.

                            This is what the Texas site says in answer to how the QP process works.

                            By marking the appropriate box on your playslip, or by telling the clerk you want to use Quick Pick, the lottery terminal will automatically select numbers for you. The Quick Pick random number generator for our on-line games has no built-in memory. Once a set of numbers is picked in one play, the random number process starts fresh for the next play. The fact that a number is picked in one play has no influence on the chances of it getting picked in following plays. Each set of numbers generated by the Quick Pick feature is unrelated to any other Quick Pick selection. This means that one or more numbers, or even the same set of numbers, can be chosen by the Quick Pick option on more than one play. If the random number generator was restricted to producing each set of numbers only once, the system would not be completely random.