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Posted: May 31, 2007, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

OK lets see if I can explain this better lets suppose that you want to wheel these numbers.

001234556789

012345567789

022556778888

012235668899

 

I know that wheeling these will give me a lot of numbers

I just want to know if you need a 12 digit wheel for these

or not and if you do is their such a thing as a 12 digit wheel.Type

The Pick-4 game consists of 10,000 numbers. They are a count up from 0000, 0001, 0002, etc. through to 9999.  Those 10,000 contain every possible four digit combination from 0123456789.

There is no need to use 12 digits 001234556789 as like Prego it's already in the 10,000  like 0012 it's in there, 0123 it's in there.

Take 02255678888 that's 025678 you can wheel them in the Maybell Wheeler and you'll find every possible Pick-4 number those digits can combine to make.  0225, it'll be in there, 8888 it'll be in there.

Yes there are 12 digit wheels for games that are larger, say a Pick-4/30 game or they are made for Pick-5 games where you'd add a key, king, monarch, number to each 4 number wheeled line.  Generally these games don't require you to pick the winning numbers positionally and don't draw duplicate numbers so the odds drop to what you would expect playing Pick-4 box all different digits only.  BobP
 




 

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    The Pick-4 game consists of 10,000 numbers. They are a count up from 0000, 0001, 0002, etc. through to 9999.  Those 10,000 contain every possible four digit combination from 0123456789.

    There is no need to use 12 digits 001234556789 as like Prego it's already in the 10,000  like 0012 it's in there, 0123 it's in there.

    Take 02255678888 that's 025678 you can wheel them in the Maybell Wheeler and you'll find every possible Pick-4 number those digits can combine to make.  0225, it'll be in there, 8888 it'll be in there.

    Yes there are 12 digit wheels for games that are larger, say a Pick-4/30 game or they are made for Pick-5 games where you'd add a key, king, monarch, number to each 4 number wheeled line.  Generally these games don't require you to pick the winning numbers positionally and don't draw duplicate numbers so the odds drop to what you would expect playing Pick-4 box all different digits only.  BobP
     




     

    OK I understand what you say here, What I wanted to know is this, you take digits

    02255678888 and only these and you wheel them.so you get

    0225

    0226

    0255

    and you keep going only using those 12 numbers until you have wheeled them all.

    Am I making any sense here.

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      OK I understand what you say here, What I wanted to know is this, you take digits

      02255678888 and only these and you wheel them.so you get

      0225

      0226

      0255

      and you keep going only using those 12 numbers until you have wheeled them all.

      Am I making any sense here.

      Actually 02255678888 are the six digits 0-2-5-6-7-8 and if you wheel them with Maybells QuikWheels you will have 1296 straight combinations starting with 0000 and ending with 8888 which includes 0225, 0226 and 0255.  You can filter out the combinations you don't want. 

      0000-0002-0005-0006-0007-0008-0020-0022-0025-0026
      0027-0028-0050-0052-0055-0056-0057-0058-0060-0062
      0065-0066-0067-0068-0070-0072-0075-0076-0077-0078
      0080-0082-0085-0086-0087-0088-0200-0202-0205-0206
      0207-0208-0220-0222-0225-0226-0227-0228-0250-0252
      0255-0256-0257-0258-0260-0262-0265-0266-0267-0268
      0270-0272-0275-0276-0277-0278-0280-0282-0285-0286
      0287-0288-0500-0502-0505-0506-0507-0508-0520-0522
      0525-0526-0527-0528-0550-0552-0555-0556-0557-0558
      0560-0562-0565-0566-0567-0568-0570-0572-0575-0576
      0577-0578-0580-0582-0585-0586-0587-0588-0600-0602
      0605-0606-0607-0608-0620-0622-0625-0626-0627-0628
      0650-0652-0655-0656-0657-0658-0660-0662-0665-0666
      0667-0668-0670-0672-0675-0676-0677-0678-0680-0682
      0685-0686-0687-0688-0700-0702-0705-0706-0707-0708
      0720-0722-0725-0726-0727-0728-0750-0752-0755-0756
      0757-0758-0760-0762-0765-0766-0767-0768-0770-0772
      0775-0776-0777-0778-0780-0782-0785-0786-0787-0788
      0800-0802-0805-0806-0807-0808-0820-0822-0825-0826
      0827-0828-0850-0852-0855-0856-0857-0858-0860-0862
      0865-0866-0867-0868-0870-0872-0875-0876-0877-0878
      0880-0882-0885-0886-0887-0888-2000-2002-2005-2006
      2007-2008-2020-2022-2025-2026-2027-2028-2050-2052
      2055-2056-2057-2058-2060-2062-2065-2066-2067-2068
      2070-2072-2075-2076-2077-2078-2080-2082-2085-2086
      2087-2088-2200-2202-2205-2206-2207-2208-2220-2222
      2225-2226-2227-2228-2250-2252-2255-2256-2257-2258
      2260-2262-2265-2266-2267-2268-2270-2272-2275-2276
      2277-2278-2280-2282-2285-2286-2287-2288-2500-2502
      2505-2506-2507-2508-2520-2522-2525-2526-2527-2528
      2550-2552-2555-2556-2557-2558-2560-2562-2565-2566
      2567-2568-2570-2572-2575-2576-2577-2578-2580-2582
      2585-2586-2587-2588-2600-2602-2605-2606-2607-2608
      2620-2622-2625-2626-2627-2628-2650-2652-2655-2656
      2657-2658-2660-2662-2665-2666-2667-2668-2670-2672
      2675-2676-2677-2678-2680-2682-2685-2686-2687-2688
      2700-2702-2705-2706-2707-2708-2720-2722-2725-2726
      2727-2728-2750-2752-2755-2756-2757-2758-2760-2762
      2765-2766-2767-2768-2770-2772-2775-2776-2777-2778
      2780-2782-2785-2786-2787-2788-2800-2802-2805-2806
      2807-2808-2820-2822-2825-2826-2827-2828-2850-2852
      2855-2856-2857-2858-2860-2862-2865-2866-2867-2868
      2870-2872-2875-2876-2877-2878-2880-2882-2885-2886
      2887-2888-5000-5002-5005-5006-5007-5008-5020-5022
      5025-5026-5027-5028-5050-5052-5055-5056-5057-5058
      5060-5062-5065-5066-5067-5068-5070-5072-5075-5076
      5077-5078-5080-5082-5085-5086-5087-5088-5200-5202
      5205-5206-5207-5208-5220-5222-5225-5226-5227-5228
      5250-5252-5255-5256-5257-5258-5260-5262-5265-5266
      5267-5268-5270-5272-5275-5276-5277-5278-5280-5282
      5285-5286-5287-5288-5500-5502-5505-5506-5507-5508
      5520-5522-5525-5526-5527-5528-5550-5552-5555-5556
      5557-5558-5560-5562-5565-5566-5567-5568-5570-5572
      5575-5576-5577-5578-5580-5582-5585-5586-5587-5588
      5600-5602-5605-5606-5607-5608-5620-5622-5625-5626
      5627-5628-5650-5652-5655-5656-5657-5658-5660-5662
      5665-5666-5667-5668-5670-5672-5675-5676-5677-5678
      5680-5682-5685-5686-5687-5688-5700-5702-5705-5706
      5707-5708-5720-5722-5725-5726-5727-5728-5750-5752
      5755-5756-5757-5758-5760-5762-5765-5766-5767-5768
      5770-5772-5775-5776-5777-5778-5780-5782-5785-5786
      5787-5788-5800-5802-5805-5806-5807-5808-5820-5822
      5825-5826-5827-5828-5850-5852-5855-5856-5857-5858
      5860-5862-5865-5866-5867-5868-5870-5872-5875-5876
      5877-5878-5880-5882-5885-5886-5887-5888-6000-6002
      6005-6006-6007-6008-6020-6022-6025-6026-6027-6028
      6050-6052-6055-6056-6057-6058-6060-6062-6065-6066
      6067-6068-6070-6072-6075-6076-6077-6078-6080-6082
      6085-6086-6087-6088-6200-6202-6205-6206-6207-6208
      6220-6222-6225-6226-6227-6228-6250-6252-6255-6256
      6257-6258-6260-6262-6265-6266-6267-6268-6270-6272
      6275-6276-6277-6278-6280-6282-6285-6286-6287-6288
      6500-6502-6505-6506-6507-6508-6520-6522-6525-6526
      6527-6528-6550-6552-6555-6556-6557-6558-6560-6562
      6565-6566-6567-6568-6570-6572-6575-6576-6577-6578
      6580-6582-6585-6586-6587-6588-6600-6602-6605-6606
      6607-6608-6620-6622-6625-6626-6627-6628-6650-6652
      6655-6656-6657-6658-6660-6662-6665-6666-6667-6668
      6670-6672-6675-6676-6677-6678-6680-6682-6685-6686
      6687-6688-6700-6702-6705-6706-6707-6708-6720-6722
      6725-6726-6727-6728-6750-6752-6755-6756-6757-6758
      6760-6762-6765-6766-6767-6768-6770-6772-6775-6776
      6777-6778-6780-6782-6785-6786-6787-6788-6800-6802
      6805-6806-6807-6808-6820-6822-6825-6826-6827-6828
      6850-6852-6855-6856-6857-6858-6860-6862-6865-6866
      6867-6868-6870-6872-6875-6876-6877-6878-6880-6882
      6885-6886-6887-6888-7000-7002-7005-7006-7007-7008
      7020-7022-7025-7026-7027-7028-7050-7052-7055-7056
      7057-7058-7060-7062-7065-7066-7067-7068-7070-7072
      7075-7076-7077-7078-7080-7082-7085-7086-7087-7088
      7200-7202-7205-7206-7207-7208-7220-7222-7225-7226
      7227-7228-7250-7252-7255-7256-7257-7258-7260-7262
      7265-7266-7267-7268-7270-7272-7275-7276-7277-7278
      7280-7282-7285-7286-7287-7288-7500-7502-7505-7506
      7507-7508-7520-7522-7525-7526-7527-7528-7550-7552
      7555-7556-7557-7558-7560-7562-7565-7566-7567-7568
      7570-7572-7575-7576-7577-7578-7580-7582-7585-7586
      7587-7588-7600-7602-7605-7606-7607-7608-7620-7622
      7625-7626-7627-7628-7650-7652-7655-7656-7657-7658
      7660-7662-7665-7666-7667-7668-7670-7672-7675-7676
      7677-7678-7680-7682-7685-7686-7687-7688-7700-7702
      7705-7706-7707-7708-7720-7722-7725-7726-7727-7728
      7750-7752-7755-7756-7757-7758-7760-7762-7765-7766
      7767-7768-7770-7772-7775-7776-7777-7778-7780-7782
      7785-7786-7787-7788-7800-7802-7805-7806-7807-7808
      7820-7822-7825-7826-7827-7828-7850-7852-7855-7856
      7857-7858-7860-7862-7865-7866-7867-7868-7870-7872
      7875-7876-7877-7878-7880-7882-7885-7886-7887-7888
      8000-8002-8005-8006-8007-8008-8020-8022-8025-8026
      8027-8028-8050-8052-8055-8056-8057-8058-8060-8062
      8065-8066-8067-8068-8070-8072-8075-8076-8077-8078
      8080-8082-8085-8086-8087-8088-8200-8202-8205-8206
      8207-8208-8220-8222-8225-8226-8227-8228-8250-8252
      8255-8256-8257-8258-8260-8262-8265-8266-8267-8268
      8270-8272-8275-8276-8277-8278-8280-8282-8285-8286
      8287-8288-8500-8502-8505-8506-8507-8508-8520-8522
      8525-8526-8527-8528-8550-8552-8555-8556-8557-8558
      8560-8562-8565-8566-8567-8568-8570-8572-8575-8576
      8577-8578-8580-8582-8585-8586-8587-8588-8600-8602
      8605-8606-8607-8608-8620-8622-8625-8626-8627-8628
      8650-8652-8655-8656-8657-8658-8660-8662-8665-8666
      8667-8668-8670-8672-8675-8676-8677-8678-8680-8682
      8685-8686-8687-8688-8700-8702-8705-8706-8707-8708
      8720-8722-8725-8726-8727-8728-8750-8752-8755-8756
      8757-8758-8760-8762-8765-8766-8767-8768-8770-8772
      8775-8776-8777-8778-8780-8782-8785-8786-8787-8788
      8800-8802-8805-8806-8807-8808-8820-8822-8825-8826
      8827-8828-8850-8852-8855-8856-8857-8858-8860-8862
      8865-8866-8867-8868-8870-8872-8875-8876-8877-8878
      8880-8882-8885-8886-8887-8888

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        OK lets see if I can explain this better lets suppose that you want to wheel these numbers.

        001234556789

        012345567789

        022556778888

        012235668899

         

        I know that wheeling these will give me a lot of numbers

        I just want to know if you need a 12 digit wheel for these

        or not and if you do is their such a thing as a 12 digit wheel.Type

        Wheeling 12 digits will give you lots of duplicates:

        Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

        Numbers: 12 (022556778888)
        Pick: 4
        Guarantee: 4
        Condition: 4
        Combinations: 495

        After Deflation Results: 67

        Tier 32
        2578(2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578,2578)

        Tier 24
        2588(2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588,2588) 2788(2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788,2788) 5788(5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788,5788)

        Tier 16
        0258(0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258,0258) 0278(0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278,0278) 0578(0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578,0578) 2568(2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568,2568) 2678(2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678,2678) 5678(5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678,5678)

        Tier 12
        0288(0288,0288,0288,0288,0288,0288,0288,0288,0288,0288,0288) 0588(0588,0588,0588,0588,0588,0588,0588,0588,0588,0588,0588) 0788(0788,0788,0788,0788,0788,0788,0788,0788,0788,0788,0788) 2688(2688,2688,2688,2688,2688,2688,2688,2688,2688,2688,2688) 5688(5688,5688,5688,5688,5688,5688,5688,5688,5688,5688,5688) 6788(6788,6788,6788,6788,6788,6788,6788,6788,6788,6788,6788)

        Tier 8
        0257(0257,0257,0257,0257,0257,0257,0257) 0268(0268,0268,0268,0268,0268,0268,0268) 0568(0568,0568,0568,0568,0568,0568,0568) 0678(0678,0678,0678,0678,0678,0678,0678) 2258(2258,2258,2258,2258,2258,2258,2258) 2278(2278,2278,2278,2278,2278,2278,2278) 2558(2558,2558,2558,2558,2558,2558,2558) 2567(2567,2567,2567,2567,2567,2567,2567) 2778(2778,2778,2778,2778,2778,2778,2778) 2888(2888,2888,2888,2888,2888,2888,2888) 5578(5578,5578,5578,5578,5578,5578,5578) 5778(5778,5778,5778,5778,5778,5778,5778) 5888(5888,5888,5888,5888,5888,5888,5888) 7888(7888,7888,7888,7888,7888,7888,7888)

        Tier 6
        0688(0688,0688,0688,0688,0688) 2288(2288,2288,2288,2288,2288) 5588(5588,5588,5588,5588,5588) 7788(7788,7788,7788,7788,7788)

        Tier 4
        0228(0228,0228,0228) 0256(0256,0256,0256) 0267(0267,0267,0267) 0558(0558,0558,0558) 0567(0567,0567,0567) 0778(0778,0778,0778) 0888(0888,0888,0888) 2257(2257,2257,2257) 2268(2268,2268,2268) 2557(2557,2557,2557) 2577(2577,2577,2577) 5568(5568,5568,5568) 6778(6778,6778,6778) 6888(6888,6888,6888)

        Tier 2
        0225(0225) 0227(0227) 0255(0255) 0277(0277) 0557(0557) 0577(0577) 2256(2256) 2267(2267) 2556(2556) 2677(2677) 5567(5567) 5677(5677)

        Tier 1
        0226 0556 0677 2255 2277 5577 8888

        Input:
        0225 0225 0226 0227 0227 0228 0228 0228 0228 0255 0256 0257 0257 0258 0258 0258 0258 0256 0257 0257 0258 0258 0258 0258 0267 0267 0268 0268 0268 0268 0277 0278 0278 0278 0278 0278 0278 0278 0278 0288 0288 0288 0288 0288 0288 0255 0256 0257 0257 0258 0258 0258 0258 0256 0257 0257 0258 0258 0258 0258 0267 0267 0268 0268 0268 0268 0277 0278 0278 0278 0278 0278 0278 0278 0278 0288 0288 0288 0288 0288 0288 0556 0557 0557 0558 0558 0558 0558 0567 0567 0568 0568 0568 0568 0577 0578 0578 0578 0578 0578 0578 0578 0578 0588 0588 0588 0588 0588 0588 0567 0567 0568 0568 0568 0568 0577 0578 0578 0578 0578 0578 0578 0578 0578 0588 0588 0588 0588 0588 0588 0677 0678 0678 0678 0678 0678 0678 0678 0678 0688 0688 0688 0688 0688 0688 0778 0778 0778 0778 0788 0788 0788 0788 0788 0788 0788 0788 0788 0788 0788 0788 0888 0888 0888 0888 2255 2256 2257 2257 2258 2258 2258 2258 2256 2257 2257 2258 2258 2258 2258 2267 2267 2268 2268 2268 2268 2277 2278 2278 2278 2278 2278 2278 2278 2278 2288 2288 2288 2288 2288 2288 2556 2557 2557 2558 2558 2558 2558 2567 2567 2568 2568 2568 2568 2577 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2588 2588 2588 2588 2588 2588 2567 2567 2568 2568 2568 2568 2577 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2588 2588 2588 2588 2588 2588 2677 2678 2678 2678 2678 2678 2678 2678 2678 2688 2688 2688 2688 2688 2688 2778 2778 2778 2778 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2888 2888 2888 2888 2556 2557 2557 2558 2558 2558 2558 2567 2567 2568 2568 2568 2568 2577 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2588 2588 2588 2588 2588 2588 2567 2567 2568 2568 2568 2568 2577 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2578 2588 2588 2588 2588 2588 2588 2677 2678 2678 2678 2678 2678 2678 2678 2678 2688 2688 2688 2688 2688 2688 2778 2778 2778 2778 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2788 2888 2888 2888 2888 5567 5567 5568 5568 5568 5568 5577 5578 5578 5578 5578 5578 5578 5578 5578 5588 5588 5588 5588 5588 5588 5677 5678 5678 5678 5678 5678 5678 5678 5678 5688 5688 5688 5688 5688 5688 5778 5778 5778 5778 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5888 5888 5888 5888 5677 5678 5678 5678 5678 5678 5678 5678 5678 5688 5688 5688 5688 5688 5688 5778 5778 5778 5778 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5788 5888 5888 5888 5888 6778 6778 6778 6778 6788 6788 6788 6788 6788 6788 6788 6788 6788 6788 6788 6788 6888 6888 6888 6888 7788 7788 7788 7788 7788 7788 7888 7888 7888 7888 7888 7888 7888 7888 8888

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          Posted: June 2, 2007, 8:54 am - IP Logged

          A Wheel Engine can give you lots of Combinations too:

          Numbers: 6 (025678)
          Combinations: 126

          0256, 0257, 0258, 0267, 0268, 0278, 0567, 0568, 0578, 0678, 2567, 2568, 2578, 2678, 5678
          0025, 0026, 0027, 0028, 0056, 0057, 0058, 0067, 0068, 0078, 2205, 2206, 2207, 2208, 2256, 2257, 2258, 2267, 2268, 2278, 5502, 5506, 5507, 5508, 5526, 5527, 5528, 5567, 5568, 5578, 6602, 6605, 6607, 6608, 6625, 6627, 6628, 6657, 6658, 6678, 7702, 7705, 7706, 7708, 7725, 7726, 7728, 7756, 7758, 7768, 8802, 8805, 8806, 8807, 8825, 8826, 8827, 8856, 8857, 8867
          0002, 0005, 0006, 0007, 0008, 2220, 2225, 2226, 2227, 2228, 5550, 5552, 5556, 5557, 5558, 6660, 6662, 6665, 6667, 6668, 7770, 7772, 7775, 7776, 7778, 8880, 8882, 8885, 8886, 8887
          0022, 0055, 0066, 0077, 0088, 2255, 2266, 2277, 2288, 5566, 5577, 5588, 6677, 6688, 7788
          0000, 2222, 5555, 6666, 7777, 8888

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