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POLL: Is this a Quick Pick or not?

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If your numbers come from an RNG besides the lotto terminal

Yup, it's still a quick pick [ 17 ]  [41.46%]
No, you filled out the playslip [ 14 ]  [34.15%]
Good question, I don't know [ 8 ]  [19.51%]
Other [ 2 ]  [4.88%]
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Posted: August 7, 2007, 2:25 am - IP Logged

If you get your numbers from a RNG other than the lottery terminal, do you still consdier them a quick pick or not?

Whether they are from a "Lucky Number" weight scale at a truck stop, a Magic 8 Ball, a website (the quick pickes here at LP or another site), would you say they're QP's or not?

The lottery would not count them as such because you filled out the playslip and you marked the numbers, not QP on the slip, but are they really not a quick pick? 

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Posted: August 7, 2007, 2:40 am - IP Logged

    If you get your numbers from a RNG other than the lottery terminal, do you still consdier them a quick pick or not?

    Whether they are from a "Lucky Number" weight scale at a truck stop, a Magic 8 Ball, a website (the quick pickes here at LP or another site), would you say they're QP's or not?

    The lottery would not count them as such because you filled out the playslip and you marked the numbers, not QP on the slip, but are they really not a quick pick? 

    That depends if all the QPs are random. Have you ever had or seen a QP from a 6 number lotto that was 1-2-3-4-5-6 or 44-45-46-47-48-49?

    It's possible there are filters that prevent combinations like that being sold as QPs. If that's true a lottery could filter out 1/3 of the combinations and cross their fingers the jackpot will roll.

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      I checked "good question" because I really don't know.  I think even numbers you pick off the top of your head or because you see a license or cash register receipt that looks good are quick picks, but that's too general a description.  Numbers not based on some kind of system are random, right? Although when I think of quick picks from a terminal, I am assuming they were generated in some kind of random sequence using an algorithm. 

      As I typed the above sentence, I saw Al Gore Rhythm.  I'm sure I'm not the first person who thought of this (probably years behind) but it's 4:30 in the morning, so my brain is in overdrive.  So maybe this is telling me Global Warming will have some effect on the Lottery and I should pick my numbers based on a series of random temperature readings. 

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        That depends if all the QPs are random. Have you ever had or seen a QP from a 6 number lotto that was 1-2-3-4-5-6 or 44-45-46-47-48-49?

        It's possible there are filters that prevent combinations like that being sold as QPs. If that's true a lottery could filter out 1/3 of the combinations and cross their fingers the jackpot will roll.

        Stack,

        Yes...I was once sold a QP for our 5/39 game:

        32-33-34-35-36

        So I don't think the QP's are filtered.

        To answer Coin Toss' question, there's a fine line defining QP's.  For example using an RNG to get your numbers but then filtering them for whatever reason kind of makes them not true QP's.

        Here's a proposed definition of Quick Pick:  A pick that uses randomness and nothing else.

        Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).


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          Posted: August 7, 2007, 9:52 am - IP Logged

          Justxploring: 

          "As I typed the above sentence, I saw Al Gore Rhythm.  I'm sure I'm not the first person who thought of this (probably years behind) but it's 4:30 in the morning, so my brain is in overdrive.  So maybe this is telling me Global Warming will have some effect on the Lottery and I should pick my numbers based on a series of random temperature readings. "

          And even at that, when you compare your numbers to those drawn, the drawing turns out to be a really inconvenient truth!

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          Rick G

          Yeah, that's what I mean - things that spit out purely random numbers, no filters or anything similar.  

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          I've had some sttraight QP's in the 5/39 too! 

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: August 7, 2007, 11:47 am - IP Logged

            i voted i would call it a quick pick because when i used the gas station bathroom scale numbers i call it a quick pick and i wouldnt tell the lottery where i got the numbers from.

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              Stack,

              Yes...I was once sold a QP for our 5/39 game:

              32-33-34-35-36

              So I don't think the QP's are filtered.

              To answer Coin Toss' question, there's a fine line defining QP's.  For example using an RNG to get your numbers but then filtering them for whatever reason kind of makes them not true QP's.

              Here's a proposed definition of Quick Pick:  A pick that uses randomness and nothing else.

              I've always thought there had to be some type of filter to prevent a large number of duplicate tickets because of the fixed secondary prizes. If one state sold 100 duplicate $250,000 second prize winners in MM, they would have huge problem.

              I pick and wheel my own numbers in our 5/39 game, but also know the drawing is random so the only advantage I have is if I happen to trap 3, 4, or 5 of the winning numbers. Todd's wheels have an RNG feature so I could use those numbers and do the same thing. 

              A ticket with 32-33-34-35-36 is just as random as any of the other 575,756 combinations but it wouldn't look random if we bought 2 tickets and the second ticket was 33-34-35-36-37. If we buy 8 QPs and expect to see all 39 numbers then we are asking the RNG to do something else.

              I'll second the motion Rick's proposed quick pick definition.

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                a quick pick is something you get at a lottery terminal. if you get numbers from anywhere other than a terminal fill out said slip then you played numbers from a different source.

                when you fill out said play slip you made a determination to play some RNG numbers generated by an outside source not generated by the lotteries terminal.

                You had a choice in the matter because you could keep the RNG's generated numbers or alter them.

                When you buy a quick pick you have no say so in the matter. Other than to cancel the ticket and since you cant cancel Mega or powerball quick picks your stuck with the tickets like it or not.  

                In a sense of the word RNG's might be considered quick picks but only if you don't alter them. if you alter the RNG quick picks then you have chose numbers other than what were generated.

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                  Posted: August 7, 2007, 2:08 pm - IP Logged

                  If the ticket says QP, Easy Pick or whatever, printed on it by the issuing game lottery terminal is what makes it a QP.  Any numbers you request on slip or otherwise will NOT print the letters to identify it as being deemed a QP on the ticket,  therefore from the perspective of the game officials it is not a QP.

                  You can think in your mind whatever or however you got it.  But what is printed on the ticket is what counts. IMHO.

                  So after you hit the jackpot you can tell the world you picked the numbers because QP isn't printed on the ticket.  Now if it has QP on it.......

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                    If the ticket says QP, Easy Pick or whatever, printed on it by the issuing game lottery terminal is what makes it a QP.  Any numbers you request on slip or otherwise will NOT print the letters to identify it as being deemed a QP on the ticket,  therefore from the perspective of the game officials it is not a QP.

                    You can think in your mind whatever or however you got it.  But what is printed on the ticket is what counts. IMHO.

                    So after you hit the jackpot you can tell the world you picked the numbers because QP isn't printed on the ticket.  Now if it has QP on it.......

                    "therefore from the perspective of the game officials it is not a QP."

                    I Agree! The state lotteries offer a choice, we can pick our own numbers or let their machines pick the numbers for us. So even if we used an identical RNG to pick our numbers, it would not be a QP.

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                      When you take the time to fill out a play slip, you're controlling the numbers a terminal will print on your ticket regardless of how you came up with them and to me that is not a quick pick.  Quick picks are the numbers a terminal prints randomly totally on its own and are usually noted as such on the ticket. 

                      The only restrictions or filters a terminal printing QPs can have are those imposed by the game for example for a pick3 game there must be three numbers from 0-9 and they can be printed more than once per line and for a lottery games all the numbers must be in the parameters of the game and can only be printed once per line.

                      I use randomness within parameters that I choose such as sums, gaps, ranges and positions to pick the combinations I play but they are not QP because I make out a play slip for the terminal to use as a guide to print out my ticket.

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                        Posted: August 7, 2007, 2:44 pm - IP Logged

                        Good question, but my vote is Quick Pick as usual.

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                          Posted: August 7, 2007, 2:50 pm - IP Logged

                          I would say anything that involves a RNG picking your numbers qualifies as a Quick Pick, whether it is at the store or on your computer (or anywhere else).  It's a pretty broad term.

                          Of course, others would have a valid point if they disagreed.  A Quick Pick could also be thought of as the very specific selection of numbers from the lottery machine.

                           

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                            Under that definition almost every combination I play would be a QP even though I fill out play slips every time I play. 

                            I know which numbers I want in my combinations and how I would like them distributed but there could be thousands of possible combinations so I use a computer program with an RNG to pick 10 or more lines to play because it's the fastest way to do it and still have a good mix of all the numbers.

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                              It's obvious that you need to define "quick pick" in order to decide if a set of numbers generated in any particular fashion is a QP. AFAIC, "quick pick" is simply a general* term for a set of numbers that were generated randomly. If that's the case then it doesn't matter exactly how the numbers were generated, as long as the process is random. That it won't be listed in the lottery's database as a QP is completely beside the point. Their datbase can give them statistics on what percentage of tickets are generated by the lottery terminals, but entires in the database aren't what determines whether or not a ticket is a QP .

                              *FWIW, "quick pick" isn't even a universal term for lotteries that offer a terminal-generated random combination. In some places QP's are (or were) called "EZ pick". I don't know if any other terms are used by  any of the lotteries.