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Posted: August 28, 2007, 7:29 am - IP Logged

I fund my account with ewallet express and click2pay  takes about 3 minutes haven't had any problems yet.

your lucky.i can do the e-wallet but click2pay went from being accepted to refused for me.

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    Posted: August 29, 2007, 10:36 pm - IP Logged

    Bottomline.

    I gather a few things.

    1. Betslipswill not takwe bets (knowingly) from customers apparently based in the US. 

    2. Click2Pay will not open new accounts for US customers. If you already had a C2P a/c it appears you can continue 

    3. Those who suugest that it is illegal for the sites (the bookies?) and not for the players -I suspect they are misguided. 

    4. Those who suggest that they wouldn't go after little fish may be misguided. 

    5. The sites that take bets are deliberately being vague about the issues in response to enquiries from consumers...might be a "good" business strategy...they are basically pursuing a caveat emptor approach 

    Bottomline to thebottomline...I don't know what to do! Maybe erring on the side of caution is the most prudent step.

    $$$

      LANTERN's avatar - kilroy 28_173_reasonably_small.jpg
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      Posted: August 29, 2007, 10:49 pm - IP Logged

      Bottomline.

      I gather a few things.

      1. Betslipswill not takwe bets (knowingly) from customers apparently based in the US. 

      2. Click2Pay will not open new accounts for US customers. If you already had a C2P a/c it appears you can continue 

      3. Those who suugest that it is illegal for the sites (the bookies?) and not for the players -I suspect they are misguided. 

      4. Those who suggest that they wouldn't go after little fish may be misguided. 

      5. The sites that take bets are deliberately being vague about the issues in response to enquiries from consumers...might be a "good" business strategy...they are basically pursuing a caveat emptor approach 

      Bottomline to thebottomline...I don't know what to do! Maybe erring on the side of caution is the most prudent step.

      Perhaps play thru an overseas partner.

      Here at LP there are some. 

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        Posted: August 30, 2007, 11:45 pm - IP Logged

        Hey guys

        You never know who's whos' anymore. About 2 years ago I was playing at the "the store" before the so called bill passed I got a regular email that said "you visit illegal sites." Didn't think too much about it at the time. At the bottom of the email was an address for the Feds in DC and a telephone number. I called the number sure enough it was "them"........I hung up......Big Bro again

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          Posted: August 31, 2007, 12:11 am - IP Logged

          pat are they allowed to do that??

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            Posted: August 31, 2007, 12:58 am - IP Logged

            I thought it was kind of strange.Don't know how they got my email address.....

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              Posted: August 31, 2007, 2:28 am - IP Logged

              Hey guys

              You never know who's whos' anymore. About 2 years ago I was playing at the "the store" before the so called bill passed I got a regular email that said "you visit illegal sites." Didn't think too much about it at the time. At the bottom of the email was an address for the Feds in DC and a telephone number. I called the number sure enough it was "them"........I hung up......Big Bro again

              I also got one like that long ago, I can't remember when, it might had been exactly the same as you got, but I think that it was not for going to the same place as you, but maybe for going to even more "illegal" places, it scared me for a little while, but not for long, I go where-ever I like to, Feds or no Feds, even if they would put a "Black Box" at my ISP.

              Are they going to presecute all the thousands or millions of people that go wherever they want to on the Web?

              THe US is like another Red China, now they only need to put an Internet wall around the country.

               

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(FBI)

               http://r-s-g.org/carnivore/

              http://computer.howstuffworks.com/carnivore.htm

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                Posted: August 31, 2007, 10:52 am - IP Logged

                Thanks for sharing that info Lantern, I was beginning to think it was just me. It scared me at first but I do still do what I need to do to stay ahead in this game.

                 

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                  Posted: August 31, 2007, 12:10 pm - IP Logged

                  Thanks for sharing that info Lantern, I was beginning to think it was just me. It scared me at first but I do still do what I need to do to stay ahead in this game.

                   

                  Ms. Pat

                  After I got that email I changed my email address right away, my ISP lets me change my email address as often as I want to, since then I have changed it at least 4 times.

                  I it is a good idea to change your email address every once in a while just in case.

                  The only way for them to keep track of what you do is to put a black box for you at your ISP, they can't afford to do this for all the millions of people who go wherever they want to, so they won't, they just scare people once in a while this was years ago and they have not bothered me again since then and I still wherever I want to, they can't afford to stay with anybody in particular for too long as there are millions of people surfing on the net every day, they might come back to us in a few years or 5 to 10 years and give us another warning. 

                  If I was paranoid about it I would get an encrypted internet connection, but I don't worry too much so I don't.

                  Or you can use a proxy chain, just to make it a little harder for them  to track you, but that slows the surfing down, so don't bother with it. 

                  take a look at this:

                  http://tor.eff.org/

                  http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html

                   http://freeweb.sourceforge.net/privacy.html 

                   http://freeweb.sourceforge.net/index1.html

                  For an old guy, I do know a few things. 

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                    Posted: August 31, 2007, 1:02 pm - IP Logged

                    I never beleived for a minute those emails were from the Feds.  All that crap is part of some kind of scam to get your information or put a virus on your computer. We bought a CD at a new bank last week because they offered a better rate for new customers, within the week I started getting problem with the account letters.  When I hold the mouse over the supposed bank web address there is numbers before the bank's name which proves it didn't come from them.  Your bank doesn't send you emails, ebay doesn't close your account, paypal doesn't close your account, Mrs tootle doesn't need to talk to you, the Feds don't send you emails, your friend didn't send you a e-postcard, and you didn't win the Lottery Post Lottery, really. BobP
                     

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                      Posted: August 31, 2007, 1:24 pm - IP Logged

                      I never beleived for a minute those emails were from the Feds.  All that crap is part of some kind of scam to get your information or put a virus on your computer. We bought a CD at a new bank last week because they offered a better rate for new customers, within the week I started getting problem with the account letters.  When I hold the mouse over the supposed bank web address there is numbers before the bank's name which proves it didn't come from them.  Your bank doesn't send you emails, ebay doesn't close your account, paypal doesn't close your account, Mrs tootle doesn't need to talk to you, the Feds don't send you emails, your friend didn't send you a e-postcard, and you didn't win the Lottery Post Lottery, really. BobP
                       

                      You must be right, one has to be careful, that is why I don't like to bank on the Internet and use PayPal and ebay as little as possible, also I use FireFox and update it all of the time.

                      Go to security and click on: "Tell me if the site that I am visiting is a suspected forgery"

                      Also "Warn me when sites try to install add-ons". 

                      And FireFox is lightning fast. 

                      You might also try using a "Sand Box" to protect yourself with.

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                        Posted: August 31, 2007, 2:29 pm - IP Logged

                        Changing your email address does nothing more that change you email address. every PC has an ip address and no matter who's on line with whatever screen name that ip address is how people can find you. Your PC's ip address is unique to your PC.

                        Now as for the feds and there tracking of people there are two places that track every email, phone, cell phone any communications that can be tracked one place is in Md and the other is in Canada. These devises only search for keywords that may or not involve terrorism, drug activity's and things of this nature. I doubt they are tracking gambling activity but they may if the sites are under investigation for laundering money or are connected to alkida, racketeering etc.  

                        People aren't actually listening to your conversations and communications but their equipment is and when that equipment comes across something suspicious it logs the communication for further review. Everything about this was done a few times on 60 minutes and 20/20


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                          I never beleived for a minute those emails were from the Feds.  All that crap is part of some kind of scam to get your information or put a virus on your computer. We bought a CD at a new bank last week because they offered a better rate for new customers, within the week I started getting problem with the account letters.  When I hold the mouse over the supposed bank web address there is numbers before the bank's name which proves it didn't come from them.  Your bank doesn't send you emails, ebay doesn't close your account, paypal doesn't close your account, Mrs tootle doesn't need to talk to you, the Feds don't send you emails, your friend didn't send you a e-postcard, and you didn't win the Lottery Post Lottery, really. BobP
                           

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