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Posted: October 21, 2007, 8:10 pm - IP Logged

Does he have anything in a nice, quilted 2-ply or better? Clown

LOL....Smile

Yes....He does have a system that's soft. It's called the " The bunch of fluff system". It costs 500 bucks, and you can use it over and over and over. It doesen't make alot of money cause it's a bunch of crap.

It dosen't work on planet Earth or Uranus....Green laugh

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    LOL....Smile

    Yes....He does have a system that's soft. It's called the " The bunch of fluff system". It costs 500 bucks, and you can use it over and over and over. It doesen't make alot of money cause it's a bunch of crap.

    It dosen't work on planet Earth or Uranus....Green laugh

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!  that was good pc!!!

    I bought some of his stuff and it worked just like yours......with the exception of a few things ..that back in the day helped you track the 3 digits for over dues....but the rest was costly junk...tho i must say i never purchased what orange has and it may well work....

    VAL

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      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!  that was good pc!!!

      I bought some of his stuff and it worked just like yours......with the exception of a few things ..that back in the day helped you track the 3 digits for over dues....but the rest was costly junk...tho i must say i never purchased what orange has and it may well work....

      Primeline is similar to cash graphs. The best systems are the ones that track trends like the ones I and orange have. They only work better than mechanical systems because a little mental elbow grease goes a long way. Systems don't work because they do the same thing over and over, and the house always gets the advantage, and methods work because it changes or morphs with every play.

      The roulette method I have does that morphing. Each line of tracking is different than the previous line, depending what the spin produces. It uses a similar pattern verification method that the "Koycerin betting method" uses. Wait till 4 alike patterns develop then do the opposite. This only works for 50/50 bets, but with roulette all you need to bet is the 50/50 games like black and white, odd or even, and high and low.

      My truck driver trainer is loaded and I convinced him to try the method in Vegas with me. He wants to fork out a few grand to try this. I didn't expect that much, but he dosen't care. I already tried it with dollar wages in a small Indian casino in New Mexico with success, so good things are ahead. 

      Can't wait. I might retire sooner than I thought.

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        I believe as you say Steve Player is now the name of the company, but back in the 80's he was real enough to share in a New York lottery jackpot prize in a office pool play.  There was a sort of shifting back and forth where others had some of the publishing rights, then he tried to come back.  Lon of the old Lottonet and I did some web site work for him and felt we were dealing with him not a company at the time, in part it was funny because he always talked about super computerized number crunching in his ads and didn't even own a computer or know how to use one, but now I suspect he's not running things.  BobP

        Quite a number of years ago, when Steve Player was a real person and was operating out of New York, his business "burned down" and he supposedly got out of the lottery business. I don't remember exactly now whether he ran an add to this effect in Lottery PLlayers magazine or sent out notices in the mail.  However, he had the business up for sale. A very reputable person in the lottery business told me in a phone conversation, that he and his partner went to New Hampshire where Steve Player had moved to discuss "buying the business" which for them only meant buying the mailing list.  That was not for sale. However, they saw that Steve player was living on a nice farm and was raising Clydesdale horses.  These guys are still in business today...at least the company is.  They could have made their nest egg by now and sold out.  Apparantly, having gotten in on the "ground floor" of the lottery business, back when there were only a few big lotto games...the Illinois lottery, California, Pennsylvania, and maybe Florida....back when those states were the big jackpots, he had made a lot of money and was able to "retire" just as Gail Howard did. At that time Gail Howard and Steve Player were the 2 big names advertising in Lottery Players magazine.  A little later, Robert Serotic came along with 4 or 5 books on lottery systems.  That all seemed to end somewhere around 1992-93.

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          If Steve Player or Gail Howard was starting out today, they would have a harder time establishing themselves, there's just too many players in the market talking up their product for any one person to be heard.  Anyone who wanted to be heard above the rest would probably have to win a lottery jackpot several times to elevate himself above all the noise.
           
          There are enough programs out there on the Internet with free trial periods that a player could spend over a year just testing them and still not be satisfied that there wasn't something better available.   All those programs can be downloaded and working on your computers within a few minutes, so you don't even have to waste time ordering them and waiting to receive them. 

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            After winning a JP, I can't see myself going into software or system sales. Dealing with the public is a P.I.T.A., and then you'd have those who think that because you'd won a few times, you "owe" them something if your system didn't hit for them right away. Dead

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              Posted: October 22, 2007, 1:23 am - IP Logged

              LOL....Smile

              Yes....He does have a system that's soft. It's called the " The bunch of fluff system". It costs 500 bucks, and you can use it over and over and over. It doesen't make alot of money cause it's a bunch of crap.

              It dosen't work on planet Earth or Uranus....Green laugh

              It dosen't work on planet Earth or Uranus 

               

              Unless you are on a roll.   


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                If Steve Player or Gail Howard was starting out today, they would have a harder time establishing themselves, there's just too many players in the market talking up their product for any one person to be heard.  Anyone who wanted to be heard above the rest would probably have to win a lottery jackpot several times to elevate himself above all the noise.
                 
                There are enough programs out there on the Internet with free trial periods that a player could spend over a year just testing them and still not be satisfied that there wasn't something better available.   All those programs can be downloaded and working on your computers within a few minutes, so you don't even have to waste time ordering them and waiting to receive them. 

                Excellent point RJOH. With the advent of the internet, things move much faster, thus harder to finagle someone thru mail...lol


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                    Posted: October 23, 2007, 12:56 am - IP Logged

                    If Steve Player or Gail Howard was starting out today, they would have a harder time establishing themselves, there's just too many players in the market talking up their product for any one person to be heard.  Anyone who wanted to be heard above the rest would probably have to win a lottery jackpot several times to elevate himself above all the noise.
                     
                    There are enough programs out there on the Internet with free trial periods that a player could spend over a year just testing them and still not be satisfied that there wasn't something better available.   All those programs can be downloaded and working on your computers within a few minutes, so you don't even have to waste time ordering them and waiting to receive them. 

                    "a player could spend over a year just testing them and still not be satisfied that there wasn't something better available."

                    Sounds like ... dating. Clown

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                      If Steve Player or Gail Howard was starting out today, they would have a harder time establishing themselves, there's just too many players in the market talking up their product for any one person to be heard.  Anyone who wanted to be heard above the rest would probably have to win a lottery jackpot several times to elevate himself above all the noise.
                       
                      There are enough programs out there on the Internet with free trial periods that a player could spend over a year just testing them and still not be satisfied that there wasn't something better available.   All those programs can be downloaded and working on your computers within a few minutes, so you don't even have to waste time ordering them and waiting to receive them. 

                      There is no Steve Player person, it was simply a group of lottery system products from the 90's that were sold by mail order.  In the late 90's Opcom bought the rights to it and they remain at large to this day.  I believe their last catalog was printed in 2005.