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small multi line lottos

Topic closed. 16 replies. Last post 9 years ago by lottobrain.

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Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
United States
Member #48725
January 7, 2007
1953 Posts
Posted: November 1, 2007, 9:05 pm - IP Logged

Hi Guru101


If you could choose the second and third line how would you bet? 


What i am going to say might surprise some players.


If you could make all three bets and you bet 18 different numbers this is whats going to happen.

the chances of catching 6 overall is decreased. same for 5 overall.

the chances of catching 7,8,9,10    are in fact elimanated.


the chances of catching 6,5,4,3, on any given line remain the same 

I wish I could choose the second and third line simply because I could apply my system towards those 2 lines and hit more numbers. I don't want to pay $2 for a ticket that I can't choose ALL the numbers for. I would rather play Hoosier Lotto.

Gonna win.Big Smile

    lottobrain's avatar - box
    Smyrna, DE
    United States
    Member #10074
    January 1, 2005
    125 Posts
    Posted: November 1, 2007, 9:22 pm - IP Logged

    The game Tplayer is asking about it is 6/39, so it's even worse than 5/40 as far as the chance of repeated numbers. After you pick the first 6 there are 33 unused numbers left, so for the first number on the second line there's already a 6/33 or 18% chance of a repeat. If you get through the second line without a repeat the first number for the 3rd line will have a 12 in 27 or 44% chance of being a repeat. For the last number it would be 17 in 22 or a 77% chance.  I'd guess that 2 or 3 repeats is common, and perhaps typical.

    In Delaware, they call this game "Multiwin Lotto".  It's the same game as in many other states, just set up as 6/35.  Same scheme, the player can select the first line, then random picks are made for the first line, or one can get all 3 lines as a QP.  What I have noticed about the game....and I have long since stopped playing it....is that one rarely gets any matches in the 3 lines that will win anything.  As an experiment, try comparing a 5 line ticket from Mega Millions or Powerball for say 5 lines where you pick perhaps the first 2 lines and then let the machine pick the remaining 3 lines vs: the same amount for the "3 lines" games.  I used to get a little mad with Powerball when I would pick a couple of lines myself and then let the machine give me Qps for the other 3 lines and it would give me a lot of the same numbers I had selected in the first 2 lines.  Not so with the Multiwin game.  I personally believe that a special program is being used by the lottery terminal to control the amount of prizes paid out, meaning that a lot of the ticket combinations produced will only have 1 or 2 numbers agreeing with numbers on the 3 lines, so that a prize will not be won. In other words once the terminal sees the first line, its random selection for the 2nd line is passed over if too many numbers should agree with the first line. Then the 3rd line is compared with the first 2 lines so that not more than 1 or 2 numbers repeat within the 3 lines.  However, a certain amount of winners will pass to keep the "suckers" coming back. To me the game is a form of computerized "slot machine" technology that assures the state will make a regular profit.  I just like lotto games where I get to pick all of my own numbers.  I feel this game is based on computer technology and is devised to keep one from winning.  Using all of my old techniques for picking numbers, I have been unable to get a 4 out of 6 winner with this game and its odds are much lower than the lotto game it replaced where I was able to win the lotto jackpot back in 98 and had gotten about 15 tickets with 5 of 6 and many 4 of 6 winners during the life of that game.