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Posted: November 14, 2007, 11:34 pm - IP Logged

Given the numbers, no specific sum will appear much more than 1% of the time in either game. IMHO it isn't much of a filter. Maybe if you look toward a range of sums such a filter would be more effective.....

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    Given the numbers, no specific sum will appear much more than 1% of the time in either game. IMHO it isn't much of a filter. Maybe if you look toward a range of sums such a filter would be more effective.....

    Years ago, I saw a program where the person was showing "how many times a hit would have occured if" some certain sum or other had been played (nice graphics, anyway). It looks like a filter, until you see just how many combos are within any given sum. Wonder how many people don't realize that until after they hit the "Buy" button.

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      i use the sum of 140 with out pb. and i do check the total sum of the last 50 draws for that sum.

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        It would be super to have the totals added on the result page for each powerball combination minue bonus ball so that we can see the range in how the sum moves..

         

        Good thoughts here.. Thanks

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          11/24/07  01 07 13 23 35    +19      79 
          11/21/07  03 11 13 20 40    +20      87 
          11/17/07  17 27 49 52 53    +23     198 
          11/14/07  16 18 20 30 48    +06     132 
          11/10/07  06 22 24 26 30    +12     108 
          11/07/07  22 29 35 46 52    +02     184 
          11/03/07  01 31 38 40 53    +42     163 
          10/31/07  06 16 18 29 37    +24     106 
          10/27/07  13 25 30 40 43    +12     151 
          10/24/07  10 11 18 49 52    +02     140 
          10/20/07  10 11 37 40 54    +10     152 
          10/17/07  14 15 19 42 46    +37     136 
          10/13/07  21 30 34 36 49    +42     170 
          10/10/07  12 16 31 33 54    +05     146 
          10/06/07  08 30 32 33 51    +02     154 
          10/03/07  02 04 14 15 28    +23      63 
          09/29/07  31 33 38 49 55    +39     206 
          09/26/07  25 27 31 44 54    +08     181 
          09/22/07  04 09 18 43 55    +03     129 
          09/19/07  20 25 26 45 46    +15     162 
          09/15/07  13 16 27 48 51    +21     155 
          09/12/07  05 24 26 33 47    +01     135 
          09/08/07  07 12 28 30 48    +40     125 
          09/05/07  11 20 21 30 48    +18     130 

          My program generate a report like this every time I search a file.  I removed most of the data. 

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            Some PowerBall sums happen more than once
             
            07/25/07  28 35 40 47 53    +30     203
            12/17/05  24 36 44 46 53    +18     203
            11/17/07  17 27 49 52 53    +23     198
            11/12/05  17 37 41 48 55    +39     198
            06/30/07  24 38 39 46 47    +26     194
            11/22/06  22 32 36 49 55    +08     194
            03/11/06  16 35 37 52 54    +33     194
            03/24/07  10 38 40 48 53    +03     189
            10/25/06  16 40 42 43 48    +01     189
            12/07/05  19 30 41 45 54    +14     189
            12/02/06  17 34 42 45 50    +11     188
            07/15/06  20 35 36 47 50    +05     188
            02/11/06  07 38 40 51 52    +14     188
            10/08/05  26 31 35 46 50    +28     188
            09/07/05  12 32 40 50 54    +37     188
            08/22/07  12 37 40 48 50    +37     187
            02/22/06  09 23 47 53 55    +39     187
            01/18/06  15 29 38 52 53    +07     187
            03/21/07  16 24 38 53 54    +05     185
            02/25/06  03 37 46 48 51    +22     185
            09/26/07  25 27 31 44 54    +08     181
            04/04/07  19 30 39 40 53    +16     181
            12/09/06  19 22 30 34 52    +40     157
            03/15/06  07 12 36 48 54    +37     157
            01/21/06  03 18 39 43 54    +41     157
            12/28/05  12 15 30 46 54    +01     157
            04/14/07  12 21 36 38 49    +18     156
            06/10/06  16 24 26 36 54    +11     156
            09/15/07  13 16 27 48 51    +21     155
            11/25/06  05 18 28 49 55    +38     155
            09/23/06  13 21 26 45 50    +20     155
            01/14/06  06 14 40 46 49    +17     155
            10/06/07  08 30 32 33 51    +02     154
            08/15/07  19 22 24 38 51    +09     154
            04/21/07  22 26 28 33 45    +17     154
            09/28/05  07 22 27 48 50    +17     154
            08/29/07  13 16 33 44 47    +29     153
            05/05/07  13 21 29 40 50    +06     153
            07/29/06  14 19 26 39 55    +29     153
            10/22/05  06 07 36 51 53    +17     153
            10/20/07  10 11 37 40 54    +10     152
            06/23/07  14 15 27 43 53    +28     152
            04/11/07  06 15 38 42 51    +18     152
            01/24/07  09 19 29 42 53    +17     152
            09/13/06  15 19 26 45 47    +03     152
            04/19/06  05 28 32 34 53    +10     152
            04/12/06  16 26 34 35 41    +24     152
            10/27/07  13 25 30 40 43    +12     151
            08/01/07  09 16 23 51 52    +12     151
            07/07/07  15 21 27 41 47    +20     151
            03/10/07  14 18 34 42 43    +32     151
            12/06/06  07 34 35 36 38    +14     150
            07/01/06  02 31 35 40 42    +34     150
            09/21/05  03 28 34 35 50    +08     150
            10/18/06  02 24 34 41 48    +24     149
            04/08/06  04 23 35 43 44    +35     149
            03/01/06  10 25 35 38 41    +23     149
            10/10/07  12 16 31 33 54    +05     146
            11/15/06  11 28 30 34 43    +29     146
            03/22/06  18 22 23 38 45    +31     146
            10/29/05  14 19 22 41 50    +21     146
            03/28/07  06 20 35 37 47    +01     145
            10/28/06  14 22 30 38 41    +12     145
            12/10/05  03 21 34 42 45    +39     145
            05/31/06  10 20 22 43 49    +03     144
            05/27/06  06 23 27 41 47    +19     144
            02/01/06  11 13 30 35 55    +37     144
            07/11/07  08 20 29 42 43    +35     142
            06/16/07  04 08 32 47 51    +27     142
            11/04/06  12 13 34 39 44    +05     142
            09/17/05  05 09 27 49 52    +06     142
            05/09/07  02 13 30 44 52    +40     141
            09/24/05  02 10 31 43 55    +14     141
            10/24/07  10 11 18 49 52    +02     140
            09/06/06  02 21 27 35 55    +01     140
            08/19/06  12 22 26 29 51    +09     140
            06/21/06  11 19 22 43 45    +34     140
            08/31/05  13 17 19 41 50 X +13     140
            06/02/07  02 22 32 36 47    +36     139
            06/17/06  10 20 22 39 48    +25     139
            04/01/06  01 10 23 50 55    +29     139
            08/23/06  08 17 24 38 51    +31     138
            03/18/06  01 25 34 36 42    +19     138
            11/19/05  08 15 20 41 54    +22     138
            10/17/07  14 15 19 42 46    +37     136
            08/18/07  12 15 28 31 50    +12     136
            01/03/07  10 12 24 35 55    +31     136
            10/26/05  02 10 39 42 43    +23     136
            10/12/05  04 09 18 51 54    +10     136
            09/12/07  05 24 26 33 47    +01     135
            08/16/06  02 13 22 48 50    +02     135
            06/24/06  08 11 30 39 47    +23     135
            12/14/05  08 15 16 45 51    +11     135
            02/17/07  01 15 35 37 45    +32     133
            08/30/06  03 19 33 35 43    +01     133
            11/14/07  16 18 20 30 48    +06     132
            07/28/07  15 19 24 27 47    +11     132
            01/31/07  02 15 25 42 48    +14     132
            05/02/07  01 08 35 40 47    +09     131
            07/12/06  18 19 30 31 33    +15     131
            12/24/05  04 10 33 34 50    +14     131
            06/20/07  23 31 32 37 55    +35     178
            05/13/06  19 28 30 47 54    +13     178
            04/28/07  16 22 43 46 49    +10     176
            08/26/06  24 26 38 42 46    +16     176
            10/13/07  21 30 34 36 49    +42     170
            04/07/07  02 28 31 54 55    +23     170
            02/28/07  13 20 41 42 53    +02     169
            10/21/06  09 29 31 45 55    +07     169
            03/04/06  13 22 27 52 55    +26     169
            02/14/07  03 26 30 54 55    +15     168
            09/27/06  23 28 33 35 49    +16     168

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              As RJ can attest, I have been looking at sums for PB for almost 2 years, and all I can say is if you want to play the odds, just pick 5 numbers where the sum adds up to something in-between about 110 and 160, BUT, there is more to it than that, it also depends on what type of game you want to play.

              If you have a hunch that WB 2 and 5 will hit, you probably won't get to your 110 low end, and if you thing two numbers will hit like WB 50 and 55, you will probably end up over 160. 

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                Great info everybody! I like using sums (no Pball or Mega ball included) along with decade patterns. The power and mega balls are a separate event.

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                  As RJ can attest, I have been looking at sums for PB for almost 2 years, and all I can say is if you want to play the odds, just pick 5 numbers where the sum adds up to something in-between about 110 and 160, BUT, there is more to it than that, it also depends on what type of game you want to play.

                  If you have a hunch that WB 2 and 5 will hit, you probably won't get to your 110 low end, and if you thing two numbers will hit like WB 50 and 55, you will probably end up over 160. 

                  I Agree! Sums are only part of the story, for example you could have eliminated the numbers of the previous 5 drawings and reduced your number pool of 55 by 17 to 24 numbers in the last 200 drawings and still had three or more of the winning numbers in 156 of those drawings and had all the winning numbers in 19 of those drawings.  There are many other parameters that can reduce your playing field and still have all the numbers most of the time, I would settle for reducing that field down to 10 numbers and having all the winning numbers 5% of the time.

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                    5/55 sum frequency:

                     

                    SumFrequencySumFrequencySumFrequencySumFrequencySumFrequency
                    15166403211631616166304122163507
                    16167431711732201167297962173266
                    17268461211832760168291592183034
                    18369492511933312169285222192818
                    19570524812033836170278672202611
                    20771559012134350171272142212418
                    211072594212234834172265462222233
                    221373631312335307173258822232062
                    231874669412435748174252052241898
                    242375709512536176175245352251747
                    253076750512636570176238542261602
                    263777793512736950177231812271469
                    274778837412837295178225002281342
                    285779883312937624179218292291226
                    297080930113037917180211522301115
                    308481978813138193181204862311014
                    3110182102831323843218219816232918
                    3211983107981333865318319159233831
                    3314184113201343883618418500234748
                    3416485118611353900118517855235674
                    3519286124081363912718617209236603
                    3622187129741373923418716579237540
                    3725588135451383930218815950238480
                    3829189141341393935118915337239427
                    3933390147271403936119014727240377
                    4037791153371413935119114134241333
                    4142792159501423930219213545242291
                    4248093165791433923419312974243255
                    4354094172091443912719412408244221
                    4460395178551453900119511861245192
                    4567496185001463883619611320246164
                    4674897191591473865319710798247141
                    4783198198161483843219810283248119
                    489189920486149381931999788249101
                    4910141002115215037917200930125084
                    5011151012182915137624201883325170
                    5112261022250015237295202837425257
                    5213421032318115336950203793525347
                    5314691042385415436570204750525437
                    5416021052453515536176205709525530
                    5517471062520515635748206669425623
                    5618981072588215735307207631325718
                    5720621082654615834834208594225813
                    5822331092721415934350209559025910
                    592418110278671603383621052482607
                    602611111285221613331221149252615
                    612818112291591623276021246122623
                    623034113297961633220121343172632
                    633266114304121643161621440322641
                    643507115310261653102621537652651
                    653765

                     

                     

                    Reference:  http://www.johnph77.com/math/ls.html#c5055

                    That ought to get you started - I haven't done a specific sum chart for PowerBall.

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                    Does the frequency mean that is the amount of tickets with that sum?

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                      Yes. 'Frequency' is the number of white-ball combinations whose members total a given 'sum'.Cool

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                        Does the frequency mean that is the amount of tickets with that sum?

                        If you are interested in Sum 140 their are 39,361 different Combinations of 01 thru 55 (5 at a time) that make up that Sum.

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