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Time and the Lottery Draw - The Connection

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Posted: November 16, 2007, 9:52 pm - IP Logged

Even though I stress focusing on TIME OF DRAW, the elapsed time between balls has plenty of merit. Its just that, it may be helpful to start small by focusing on the DRAW TIME,  and then if you want to go very "deep", by all means then confront the elapsed time between balls as well.

Concerning the Magic Squares of planets, hopefully I can share something that will be somewhat interesting.

Thanks for your sentiments aumira.

Very interesting topic and because of it, I decided to watch the live Ohio draw at 7:29. They use a machine with clear containers and the balls are mixing using a forced air process while the announcer introduced herself. She stepped to the side and the camera pans in on the device that holds the 3 balls that entered the 3 individual tubes first. All 3 tubes are opened at the same time so there is no elapsed time between when each ball reaches the top but sometimes like in tonight's drawing when the announcer had to wait a couple seconds on the middle ball before announcing the Pick-3 number.

The Pick-4 uses the same process but they use one container with 5 tubes for the daily 5/39 Rolling Cash 5 game. With the Pick-3 and Pick-4, two balls could collide allowing another ball to reach the top of the tube first but in the RC5 both balls could reach the top first in other tubes.

When they first started the Pick-3, each container had its own device and the announcer would open it. There was a pause between when each digit was drawn so the drawing was more exciting especially if you had a large bet on a combination that had the first two digits.

I don't know if there is a relationship between the time of draw and the mechanics of the draw but when I looked outside and saw it was dark at 7:29 PM, there might be a difference from the drawing held in July when there was sun light at 7:29 PM. Maybe there is a bias based on the time of the year, month or even days of the week.

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    Posted: November 17, 2007, 10:29 am - IP Logged

    Very interesting topic and because of it, I decided to watch the live Ohio draw at 7:29. They use a machine with clear containers and the balls are mixing using a forced air process while the announcer introduced herself. She stepped to the side and the camera pans in on the device that holds the 3 balls that entered the 3 individual tubes first. All 3 tubes are opened at the same time so there is no elapsed time between when each ball reaches the top but sometimes like in tonight's drawing when the announcer had to wait a couple seconds on the middle ball before announcing the Pick-3 number.

    The Pick-4 uses the same process but they use one container with 5 tubes for the daily 5/39 Rolling Cash 5 game. With the Pick-3 and Pick-4, two balls could collide allowing another ball to reach the top of the tube first but in the RC5 both balls could reach the top first in other tubes.

    When they first started the Pick-3, each container had its own device and the announcer would open it. There was a pause between when each digit was drawn so the drawing was more exciting especially if you had a large bet on a combination that had the first two digits.

    I don't know if there is a relationship between the time of draw and the mechanics of the draw but when I looked outside and saw it was dark at 7:29 PM, there might be a difference from the drawing held in July when there was sun light at 7:29 PM. Maybe there is a bias based on the time of the year, month or even days of the week.

    Interesting observations there with the draws of the Pick 3,4,5. All that you noted are neat things to consider if one chooses to consider Time in making predictions. I also agree with you, and Libra Dave, that Time of year, month, and day of week does have an impact on the draw.

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      Posted: November 19, 2007, 8:16 pm - IP Logged

      "Maybe there is a bias based on the time of the year, month or even days of the week."

      I believe you are correct stack...

      After thinking it through, i do believe you will find a pattern in time of draw...But i don't think you will have to focus on the hours, for the hours are the same, what you have to focus is on the minutes and the seconds...But it will take a lot of time to consider all the variables...

      I also believe the following is good to better predict Pick3/Pick4, specially Pick4..I call it a "trick/method to better predict the numbers"....I believe you must first study and predict the sum total of Pick3/Pick4, and then once you have the sum totals then select with exact pair and number that follows according to the sum total..You don't have to select only 1 sum total you can select several sum totals of Pick3/Pick4 and then select the numbers that are more likely to come out accordingly...You then DO THIS (look at the sum totals of Pick3/Pick4), and compare it with days of the week and of past draws/drawings and FIND THE PATTERN..

      I believe this tactic is better at predicting Pick3/Pick4, specially Pick4 than to just go blindly looking at past history and looking at the numbers the ordinary way...

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        Posted: November 19, 2007, 8:56 pm - IP Logged

        "After thinking it through, i do believe you will find a pattern in time of draw...But i don't think you will have to focus on the hours, for the hours are the same, what you have to focus is on the minutes and the seconds...But it will take a lot of time to consider all the variables..."

         

        but i don't believe it holds true for Pick5, pick6, and keno...

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          Posted: November 20, 2007, 9:01 pm - IP Logged

          "Maybe there is a bias based on the time of the year, month or even days of the week."

          I believe you are correct stack...

          After thinking it through, i do believe you will find a pattern in time of draw...But i don't think you will have to focus on the hours, for the hours are the same, what you have to focus is on the minutes and the seconds...But it will take a lot of time to consider all the variables...

          I also believe the following is good to better predict Pick3/Pick4, specially Pick4..I call it a "trick/method to better predict the numbers"....I believe you must first study and predict the sum total of Pick3/Pick4, and then once you have the sum totals then select with exact pair and number that follows according to the sum total..You don't have to select only 1 sum total you can select several sum totals of Pick3/Pick4 and then select the numbers that are more likely to come out accordingly...You then DO THIS (look at the sum totals of Pick3/Pick4), and compare it with days of the week and of past draws/drawings and FIND THE PATTERN..

          I believe this tactic is better at predicting Pick3/Pick4, specially Pick4 than to just go blindly looking at past history and looking at the numbers the ordinary way...

          I believe the timing or being in sync with a game might be the most important part of any gaming. For instance, you're playing Blackjack and are dealt 16 and the dealers up-card is 6. Basic playing strategy suggests that you stand, the dealer's down-card is a face, they must hit, turn over a 5 for 21 and you lose. Let's play the same hand but instead of the up-card being a 6, we'll use the face as the up-card. Now basic strategy tells you to take a hit, getting that 5 for 21, and will probably win the hand. 

          If the bad timing or being out of sync like in the first example continues, you won't be at that table very long. On the other hand, if the good timing or being in sync continues through the shoe or into the next couple of shoes, you'll win lots of money.

          "I believe you must first study and predict the sum total of Pick3/Pick4, and then once you have the sum totals then select with exact pair and number that follows according to the sum total.."

          Sums is a way of forming a relationship between a group of numbers and we could measure the time or the number of draws between hits as a playing strategy. Measuring even/odd, high/low, or a combination of all three is another. But winning still depends on being in sync and good timing because once you decide any strategy is due, it will remain due until it hits.

          I found a way of putting all 220 combination into 22 equal groups of 10 where each digit appears 3 times in each group after reading an article about the of expected number of draws until a consecutive number hits. The logic was that a consecutive combination (123, 456, 567, etc) including wrap-arounds (019) should hit once every 22 draws. And if that's true, it should be true for the other 21 groups of 10 with the exception of the group that has the 10 triples.

          But it's still all in the timing because somebody might read this, notice that a consecutive combo hasn't hit in their state in over 30 draws, play them tomorrow and get a hit or it might go another 30 draws without a hit.