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Should Lottery retailers and their employees be prohibited from buying tickets at their store?

Yes

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[ 35.1% ]

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[ 51.3% ]

Undecided

[ 1 ]

[ 2.7% ]

Don't Care One Way Or The Other

[ 4 ]

[ 10.8% ]

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BobP

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Dec 2, 2007, 2:41 am

When companies run contests their employees and agents are not allowed to enter. Does it make sense to prohibit lottery retailers and their employees from buying lottery tickets where they work?

BobP
JimmySand9

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Dec 2, 2007, 2:50 am

Seems fair, as long as they can buy tickets elsewhere.

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justxploring

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Dec 2, 2007, 3:53 am

I'm not sure, although it certainly will avoid any suspicion of impropriety. I live in an area where there are dozens of lottery retailers, so it wouldn't be a big inconvenience for any employee unless he/she doesn't drive.
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Dec 2, 2007, 4:43 am

i think they should be able to play the online games @ their location but not the instant games

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Dec 2, 2007, 7:32 am

Why would they want to play/spend money else where?
I buy my merchandise at the store where I work.. why not any other thing like lottery tickets, instant or not...
I am not a sucker.. so instant tickets are out of question anyway.

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LckyLary

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Dec 2, 2007, 9:00 am

The idea is that if they buy tickets at their own store, it sometimes gives rise to cheating. A crooked agent will tell a customer, "you won $3" and hand them $3, but the ticket is really worth $3 million. That could even be done with online tickets. "You matched 3 of 5, pay $10" and really it's 4 or 5 of 5. They should be fully able to buy tickets elsewhere. The problem is this may be difficult to enforce. One crooked agent could be in cahoots with another and trade winning tickets. There is also nothing on the instant ticket (is there?) to tell where it came from as there is with online tickets. The only thing is, you hear that agents tend to win more often, that may be because they as business owners have more $ and just like a McDonald's employee sometimes may eat more Big Macs, a store agent may buy more of their own product. There are also the discards. I don't doubt some agents if they have time might look in the wastebasket by the door and scan some of the discards. I have found small prizes in discards.
lottolaughs

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Dec 2, 2007, 9:13 am

No! I used to buy tickets at the liquor store I worked at all the time. In fact if I WOULDN'T have been able to buy my lottery tickets there I wouldn't have bought any at all. The convenience was nice and at times wound up buying more then I should have,lol. If you're a "cheater" you will always get caught anyway, it's just a matter of time.
ThatScaryChick

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Dec 2, 2007, 11:39 am

I don't see the problem with employees buying tickets from tthe stores they work at. Really how are they going to cheat on Powerball or any other game like that?
time*treat

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Dec 2, 2007, 11:56 am

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Dec 2, 2007
When companies run contests their employees and agents are not allowed to enter. Does it make sense to prohibit lottery retailers and their employees from buying lottery tickets where they work?

BobP

"Caesar's wife must be above suspicion."

In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.
rcbbuckeye

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Dec 2, 2007, 12:00 pm

Funny this poll would come up now. I buy my tics at the same convenience store owned my Middle Eastern folks. Very nice people. I always joke with her (the owner) that her machine is broken (I don't win too much). But she has had pretty good luck lately. She won $500 on Pick 3 last month, and won on 2 separate scratch offs for over $1000. I don't it should be outlawed, her chances are as good as anyone elses, and I don't see how anyone can really cheat, esp online games.
A little side note. This year, she had a customer that won big on P3. He played $20 on 222 and hit. Last year another one play $40 and hit. They both were smart, played 20 and 40 individual tics instead of all on one tic.
rcbbuckeye

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Dec 2, 2007, 12:01 pm

A little typo, the store is owned "by" Middle East folks, not "my".
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Dec 2, 2007, 1:12 pm

Employees being prohibited from buying tickets at their store would also discourage them from stealing scratch-offs and cashing them at their store too, but some employees buy their mistakes and it would make getting rid of those mistakes a problem if they couldn't be canceled.
I've read of mistakes being covered by the stores and winning big, one ended up in court because an employee bought it the next morning after she checked it and saw it was a big winner. Such a rule might have protected the store. I can image an employee printing up a few mistakes, checking them after the drawing and only buying the winners allowing the stores to cover their gambling loses.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
thewayforward

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Dec 2, 2007, 2:53 pm

I think it depends on what kind of tickets are being bought. If they are scratch and win I definately think it is a great idea not to let them buy tickets from where they work. Granted most people who buy tickets from their place of employment are doing so honestly, when someone does win it can draw negative attention to the retailer and the winner. By making things simple and not letting them buy from their place of work it avoids all sorts of problems and potential for scandal.
The only thing that I am not sure about is how you could enforce such a system?
thewayforward
justxploring

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Dec 2, 2007, 3:48 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Dec 2, 2007
A little typo, the store is owned "by" Middle East folks, not "my".

I know you didn't mean any harm by it, but why mention their race or nationality? If they own a store where you live (legally) and you live, then they are Americans!
By the way, I'm not picking on you. I say the same thing to the Latinos who call me an Anglo or Gringo or say "you people" since I'm getting sick of it. Me - you - them - us
time*treat

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Dec 2, 2007, 7:55 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Dec 2, 2007
Employees being prohibited from buying tickets at their store would also discourage them from stealing scratch-offs and cashing them at their store too, but some employees buy their mistakes and it would make getting rid of those mistakes a problem if they couldn't be canceled.
I've read of mistakes being covered by the stores and winning big, one ended up in court because an employee bought it the next morning after she checked it and saw it was a big winner. Such a rule might have protected the store. I can image an employee printing up a few mistakes, checking them after the drawing and only buying the winners allowing the stores to cover their gambling loses.

People have this idea that because they themselves would not or could not think of a way to cheat that somehow this means that no one else can or will. If something has value enough to command a price, you can be certain that someone is trying to figure out how to get it for free.

In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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