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Posted: December 5, 2007, 12:34 am - IP Logged


Dear lotterypost.com members,

As of early next year, lotterypost.com will have their own give-away.

Each member will have the opportunity to pay 5 dollars via paypal, credit card, wire, or check acct. each week for a prize of 5000 to 15,000 dollars OR MORE.

1000 members x 5 = 5000 dollars

2000 members x 5 = 10000 dollars

3000 members x 5 = 15000 dollars

The jackpot prize will vary each week.

If you wish to enter, you must pay 1 month in advance. You cannot play per week. 1 month membership will cover you for 4 weeks.

After taxes, the winner winner will recieve between 2500 and 10,000 dollars.

This is NOT a lottery technically, but all the same. Lotterypost.com does not need a lottery license.

Users ARE NOT paying to enter a lottery, they are paying for a monthly membership to participate in a give-away, and the money for that membership is used to be given away to members. In the court of American law, this is legal, and can be done legally without any type of lottery license or permission.

Because the maximum of 5000 users of lotterypost.com can play, the odds of winning are less than 1 in 5000.

These odds are better than any casino, scratch-off, pick 3, pick 4, powerball, or any mega lottery in  America.


You have a better change of winning $2500 to $15,000 at lotterypost.com than any other give away, contest, sweepstakes, scratch off, casino, or lottery in America - Thanks to me.

There will always be a winner every Friday, if no one guesses the right number, the person who gets the closests will win the "Give-Away prize" so the odds stay the same each week.

If only 2500 members enter, then the odds are 1 in 2500.

If only 1000 members enter, then the odds are 1 in 1000.

It is a give-away, not a lottery. However, you must be a paying member to participate in the give-away and your money is being used for the give-away.

The money from each members membership will be given away to the person who guesses the correct give away number, or the person who gets the closests.

If two people guess the correct 5 digit number between 1 and 40, the prize will be split. Since there is 6 sets of numbers between 1 and 40, the odds of multiple people winning are over 1 in millions.

Pay the small fee of 19.99-23.99 for a monthly entry to get 4 chances to win the give-away prize each month, and you have better odds of winning thousands than anyone in America.

Thanks to me.

I am in the process of getting a job with lotterypost.com, and am awaiting contact from the owner.

I will be helping with recruiting new members, business, marketing, delivery of traffic, new ideas, managing the give-away, and dozens more.

Enjoy and feel free to reply with commends or questions.

    benmas's avatar - waveform
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    Posted: December 5, 2007, 12:55 am - IP Logged

    Quote:

    "If two people guess the correct 5 digit number between 1 and 40, the prize will be split. Since there is 6 sets of numbers between 1 and 40, the odds of multiple people winning are over 1 in millions."
     

    DUde ...all your posts are complete BS   WHY? WHY?


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      Posted: December 5, 2007, 12:59 am - IP Logged

      Not bs.

      It starts in a few months or sooner.

      What makes you think this isn't happening?


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        Posted: December 5, 2007, 1:00 am - IP Logged

        The 5 was suppose to say 6sets.

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          Posted: December 5, 2007, 1:14 am - IP Logged

          I hate to tell you, but what you are proposing is illegal.  It is indeed running your own lottery.

          You can't run any kind of contest in which the participants are forced to pay.  Even though you are saying that they're paying for a membership and not a chance to win, people cannot enter the "contest" without paying something.  In other words, a person can't win a prize if they don't become a paid member.  That is the legal equivalent of paying to enter.

           

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            Posted: December 5, 2007, 1:16 am - IP Logged

            Quote:

            "If two people guess the correct 5 digit number between 1 and 40, the prize will be split. Since there is 6 sets of numbers between 1 and 40, the odds of multiple people winning are over 1 in millions."
             

            DUde ...all your posts are complete BS   WHY? WHY?

            I Agree!

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: December 5, 2007, 1:25 am - IP Logged

              I hate to tell you, but what you are proposing is illegal.  It is indeed running your own lottery.

              You can't run any kind of contest in which the participants are forced to pay.  Even though you are saying that they're paying for a membership and not a chance to win, people cannot enter the "contest" without paying something.  In other words, a person can't win a prize if they don't become a paid member.  That is the legal equivalent of paying to enter.

              False. Contact your local lawyer with internet business and internet law experience.

              If I open a give-away site for paying members only, and decide I'm going to give away all the money the members pay for that give-away and announce it publicly to all of the paying members and non paying members, it is legal. Look into it.

              Same if I want to open a regular give-away site where each month I give-away money to only paying members. Or a contest site where the person who can get closest to the winning contest numbers wins the contest and get the money - but have to pay to enter.

              Legal in America.

              It is a give away, not a lottery.

              Even if you have to use letters instead of numbers, or shapes, or pick a selection or numbers.

              It isn't illegal to open a give away site for only paying members and use the paying members money to depict how much is given away each month. A self-supporting give away system.

              A lot of other give away sites rely on advertising income to be able to give away the money they give away. This will rely on membership sales.

              You don't have to sign up to be a member to play the lottery, you just pay for a ticket.

              You are paying for a membership.

              Lotterypost.com can give the membership sales money away if they want to, and no laws can stop them. They can even announce it publicly and systemize it with numbers.

                 


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                Posted: December 5, 2007, 1:29 am - IP Logged

                (And the contest is a feature of the membership if that was the case. If I open up a site for only paying members and include a give away in that site and use the membership sales money to give away, I don't have to by law make that give away public for non paying members. It is a feature of my membership site.)

                Again, you are not paying to enter a lottery or enter a give-away, you are paying for a members club membership to lotterypost.com, and ONE of the features of that membership is the ability to guess a give-away  number each week, along with several other features.

                I've already consulted and verified it is legal to do it in the way I have setup for it run.



                 


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                  Posted: December 5, 2007, 1:31 am - IP Logged

                  It may be going around the law or slightly bending, but it is legal and no laws can shut it down or stop it.

                  That is why lotterypost.com will be opening up this membership club soon for you all to enjoy.

                  Thanks to me.

                  With better odds than any of you have ever had in your life of winning this type of money.

                  1 in 5000 is extremely good odds of winning 2500 to 15,000 dollars.


                  Sometimes the odds will be even better, depending on how many people have recurring memberships and cancel.

                  Other features some with your club membership too.


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                    Posted: December 5, 2007, 1:56 am - IP Logged

                    I have links to a graphics site ( a forum ) that gave away 10,000 dollars to the best of...something, i forget.

                    If the owner would of only offered it to the VIP paying members, no laws can stop him or shut him down. He offered it for all members, paying and non.

                    Same in this situation.

                    If I want to open xxxxxdawtcalm with 12 fun features for paying members, and include the ability for my paying members to guess a give away number each week, no law can shut me down or stop me. I don't need any type of lottery license or permit.

                    For proof, I can provide links to sites who give away money right now, even if it is only 100 or 50 a week.


                    You can give away money on a website, it is legal.

                    You can decide who wins the give away with numbers, pictures, shapes, talent, poems, rhymes, songs, written work, photography, and other. It is legal.

                    You can use the money from membership sales to support this 1 of 12 features. It is legal.

                    No current laws can step in and say "wait a minute, you can't give away money to paying members who guess a give away number"

                    There is no current laws that say you can't give away money to paying members of your site who guess a give away number, a picture, provide a talent, win a contest, make the most posts, ect.

                    If there was, it would be illegal for me to open guesswhatnumberimthinkingof-dawt-calm, a paid members only website that offers a 7 day trial, and give away 100 dollars to anyone who guesses the number I was thinking of.

                    Whether or not I use the money from the sales of that membership site is my own choice and freedom.

                    No one and no law can step in and say "You can only use your money from other sites or other sources. If we find out 1 penny of the money you made from paying members was given away to someone who guessed what number you are thinking, we will take you to court"

                    Catch my drift.

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                      Posted: December 5, 2007, 1:58 am - IP Logged


                      Dear lotterypost.com members,

                      As of early next year, lotterypost.com will have their own give-away.

                      Each member will have the opportunity to pay 5 dollars via paypal, credit card, wire, or check acct. each week for a prize of 5000 to 15,000 dollars OR MORE.

                      1000 members x 5 = 5000 dollars

                      2000 members x 5 = 10000 dollars

                      3000 members x 5 = 15000 dollars

                      The jackpot prize will vary each week.

                      If you wish to enter, you must pay 1 month in advance. You cannot play per week. 1 month membership will cover you for 4 weeks.

                      After taxes, the winner winner will recieve between 2500 and 10,000 dollars.

                      This is NOT a lottery technically, but all the same. Lotterypost.com does not need a lottery license.

                      Users ARE NOT paying to enter a lottery, they are paying for a monthly membership to participate in a give-away, and the money for that membership is used to be given away to members. In the court of American law, this is legal, and can be done legally without any type of lottery license or permission.

                      Because the maximum of 5000 users of lotterypost.com can play, the odds of winning are less than 1 in 5000.

                      These odds are better than any casino, scratch-off, pick 3, pick 4, powerball, or any mega lottery in  America.


                      You have a better change of winning $2500 to $15,000 at lotterypost.com than any other give away, contest, sweepstakes, scratch off, casino, or lottery in America - Thanks to me.

                      There will always be a winner every Friday, if no one guesses the right number, the person who gets the closests will win the "Give-Away prize" so the odds stay the same each week.

                      If only 2500 members enter, then the odds are 1 in 2500.

                      If only 1000 members enter, then the odds are 1 in 1000.

                      It is a give-away, not a lottery. However, you must be a paying member to participate in the give-away and your money is being used for the give-away.

                      The money from each members membership will be given away to the person who guesses the correct give away number, or the person who gets the closests.

                      If two people guess the correct 5 digit number between 1 and 40, the prize will be split. Since there is 6 sets of numbers between 1 and 40, the odds of multiple people winning are over 1 in millions.

                      Pay the small fee of 19.99-23.99 for a monthly entry to get 4 chances to win the give-away prize each month, and you have better odds of winning thousands than anyone in America.

                      Thanks to me.

                      I am in the process of getting a job with lotterypost.com, and am awaiting contact from the owner.

                      I will be helping with recruiting new members, business, marketing, delivery of traffic, new ideas, managing the give-away, and dozens more.

                      Enjoy and feel free to reply with commends or questions.

                      'I am in the process of getting a job with lotterypost.com, and am awaiting contact from the owner.'

                      Todd,

                      If this moron get a job with the Lottery Post, I'll never renew my premium membership again. This has SCAM written all over it.

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                        SELF-QUOTE:

                        "If there was, it would be illegal for me to open guesswhatnumberimthinkingof-dawt-calm, a paid members only website that offers a 7 day trial, and give away 100 dollars to anyone who guesses the number I was thinking of.

                        Whether or not I use the money from the sales of that membership site is my own choice and freedom.

                        No one and no law can step in and say "You can only use your money from other sites or other sources. If we find out 1 penny of the money you made from paying members was given away to someone who guessed what number you are thinking, we will take you to court""
                         


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                          'I am in the process of getting a job with lotterypost.com, and am awaiting contact from the owner.'

                          Todd,

                          If this moron get a job with the Lottery Post, I'll never renew my premium membership again. This has SCAM written all over it.

                          Please explain to everyone how this has scam witten all over it after reviewing the definition of "Scam" and confirming you know what exactly a "Scam" is.

                          I'll confirm it for you.

                          A scam is an attempt to steal, forge, conduct illegal activity, cheat, lie, take advantage of, ect.

                          Or by dictionary definition: "to cheat or defraud with a scam.", " A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle."

                          Please explain for us how anything I have posted in this thread relates to a scam or anything close to a scam.

                          Please acknowledge it is legal with proof and links to sites doing the same or similar that can be provided upon request.

                          Thousands of sites give away money to paying members.

                          Giving it away to someone who puts together a puzzle first, guesses the shapes or letters or numbers I'm thinking of, or dozens of other variations is no different.

                          :::beats chest:::
                           


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                            Was I being too defensive? Not looking into it far enough?

                            Was the "This has SCAM written all over it" subliminal or code for something else?

                            Were you trying to say the opposite?

                            I'm still growing up, sorry if I was mistaken.


                             

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                              Posted: December 5, 2007, 2:06 am - IP Logged

                              Please explain to everyone how this has scam witten all over it after reviewing the definition of "Scam" and confirming you know what exactly a "Scam" is.

                              I'll confirm it for you.

                              A scam is an attempt to steal, forge, conduct illegal activity, cheat, lie, take advantage of, ect.

                              Or by dictionary definition: "to cheat or defraud with a scam.", " A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle."

                              Please explain for us how anything I have posted in this thread relates to a scam or anything close to a scam.

                              Please acknowledge it is legal with proof and links to sites doing the same or similar that can be provided upon request.

                              Thousands of sites give away money to paying members.

                              Giving it away to someone who puts together a puzzle first, guesses the shapes or letters or numbers I'm thinking of, or dozens of other variations is no different.

                              :::beats chest:::
                               

                              Don't piss me off.

                              Your first and last warning.

                              Red Eyes

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