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How many system players do we have?

yes, I use a computer/paper and pen

[ 42 ]

[ 87.5% ]

no, I just wing it

[ 6 ]

[ 12.5% ]

Total valid votes

[ 48 ]

Discarded votes

[ 0 ]

GASMETERGUY

NASHVILLE, TENN
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Dec 11, 2007, 9:08 pm

I use a computer to lose all my gambling money. I know there are some of use who use paper and pencil. Just how many of us use one or the other is the question. And how many buy Quick Picks, use birthdays ect., or just go the QP route.
Lotterologist

Lotto City, Michigan
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Dec 11, 2007, 9:20 pm

I use everything from a pencil and paper to the Hubble Space Telescope. Although I haven't won yet, I will win the big jackpot someday!
pacattack05

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Dec 11, 2007, 9:27 pm

The wheel was invented with nothing but rocks and a chisel (spelling?).
The fastest computer is only as good as the information inputted by a mortal. The only good thing about using a computer is that it can save time in workouts, but at the end of it all the outcome is what counts.
tntea

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Dec 11, 2007, 9:42 pm

I am using a pencil paper and chart for lotto 5 and pb...
I have over 20 pools I have created. I keep a receipt book and each receipt indicates the pool people are in. It has their name and address/phone number on my duplicate sheet, so I can contact them if new numbers are added. (Example, Pool 1 hit the powerball number 3 times.. and the monies went back in to buy Pool1A Pool2B and Pool1C tickets..

Tonight I completed another pool in fifteen minutes while visiting the store. Everyone immediately got a copy of the numbers and we are set for 10 draws. It is really exciting.. it sorta hooks you up with people. Three of the customers, I don't' even know.. What a way it would be to make friends by winning a powerball..

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LottoBuster

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Dec 11, 2007, 10:02 pm

For me it's both. I do some work the old fashioned way with a pencil and paper but much of the hard stuff is done with the computer. In fact the main software I use was one that was purchased in the late 90s and is still as good as anything that's out today for crunching the numbers. The interface could use some work though, maybe it's been updated although the last I knew the website was still showing the same version that I've got.

Btw does anyone know if the old lottery newspaper "Lottery Players Magazine" is still in business? I used to have a subscription to it in the 1990s and it was a wonderful paper but it's nowhere to be found on the internet and I've got no contact number.
pumpi76

Honduras
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Dec 11, 2007, 11:50 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Lotterologist on Dec 11, 2007
I use everything from a pencil and paper to the Hubble Space Telescope. Although I haven't won yet, I will win the big jackpot someday!

LOL that was funny...(using the Hubble Space telescope part)...
Guru101

Indiana
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Dec 12, 2007, 12:11 am

I have my own coded computer program, and yes, I will win big soon.

Gonna win.
lotterybraker

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Dec 12, 2007, 12:09 pm

Quote: Originally posted by tntea on Dec 11, 2007
I am using a pencil paper and chart for lotto 5 and pb...
I have over 20 pools I have created. I keep a receipt book and each receipt indicates the pool people are in. It has their name and address/phone number on my duplicate sheet, so I can contact them if new numbers are added. (Example, Pool 1 hit the powerball number 3 times.. and the monies went back in to buy Pool1A Pool2B and Pool1C tickets..

Tonight I completed another pool in fifteen minutes while visiting the store. Everyone immediately got a copy of the numbers and we are set for 10 draws. It is really exciting.. it sorta hooks you up with people. Three of the customers, I don't' even know.. What a way it would be to make friends by winning a powerball..

WTG TnTea..I honestly believe this is the way to go if you want to win a big Jackpot....yes..it would be nice to win it by yourself..but you have to consider what kind of odds you are up against in those Jackpot games like Mega Millions and Powerball..lets see here..twice a week..that is 8 times a month...which =96 draws a year..divided by 150 million..let me pull my calculator up..hold one sec..hahaha..lets see if I did that right..1 million and 562 thousand YEARS before every possible combination could show and that is if none repeats and that is not going to happen at all..

So playing in a Pool makes perfect sence..and remember..its better to get SOME...than None!!!

"Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"
ThatScaryChick

Idaho
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Dec 12, 2007, 12:36 pm

I'm a paper and pencil gal and I tend to use a system when choosing my numbers. I don't care much for the quick picks that the computer spits out. However, if I am in a hurry I will sometimes buy quick picks. (But that is rare.)
GASMETERGUY

NASHVILLE, TENN
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Dec 12, 2007, 4:22 pm

Thanks for all the replies. For what I could gather reading the threads, most of us who visit here daily are not system players. Hence the poll.
So far there have been 222 views and out of those, 25 voted. Only one person admitted to winging it.
I can't wait to see what tomorrow brings.
tiggs95

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Dec 12, 2007, 6:53 pm

I believe in dumb luck and not a so called system..That's my opinion..........
tabahan10

NORTH CAROLINA
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Dec 12, 2007, 7:04 pm

I've just about completed my time machine. Do I have any volunteers so that I can project them into the future to get the winning numbers ?
GASMETERGUY

NASHVILLE, TENN
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Dec 13, 2007, 9:54 pm

Quote: Originally posted by tiggs95 on Dec 12, 2007
I believe in dumb luck and not a so called system..That's my opinion..........

Tiggs905
I can fully appreciate why you feel that way and I fully respect your opinion. You are not alone on this forum. There are many members who feel there is no way to reduce the odds and they are right.
I am not one of them and here's one reason why.
Take the sum of any P3, P4, or P5 numbers. There are only two outcomes, either the sum is odd or the sum is even. If we go no further than this, we have divided the playing field into two halves. Guessing which half we should be focusing upon is the problem. To solve this conundrum we track the sum over several draws and, for the next draw, we take our best shot. We will be wrong at times and we will be right at times. But the fact is we have divided the playing field in half and we are right x number of times, thus we have "reduced" the odds against us.
lottolaughs

Sunny California
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Dec 13, 2007, 10:08 pm

Systems all the way! I will never waste my money on quick picks again.
LottoBuster

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Dec 13, 2007, 11:34 pm

Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on Dec 13, 2007
Tiggs905
I can fully appreciate why you feel that way and I fully respect your opinion. You are not alone on this forum. There are many members who feel there is no way to reduce the odds and they are right.
I am not one of them and here's one reason why.
Take the sum of any P3, P4, or P5 numbers. There are only two outcomes, either the sum is odd or the sum is even. If we go no further than this, we have divided the playing field into two halves. Guessing which half we should be focusing upon is the problem. To solve this conundrum we track the sum over several draws and, for the next draw, we take our best shot. We will be wrong at times and we will be right at times. But the fact is we have divided the playing field in half and we are right x number of times, thus we have "reduced" the odds against us.

One thing about systems is making sure to back test extensively to find their averages in hits per number of plays. You mention the odd/even outcome but it works the same in any system and that is once a reliable average is known then in order for it to maintain itself half the time it'll come in at or over the average and the other half at or under it. That comes in handy when developing a progressive wagering setup, depending on the system. It performs especially good for me when working with pairs since the payout isn't that great.

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