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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: February 13, 2008, 10:29 am - IP Logged

                                              No  Box players allowed ... LOL 

  Just kidding.  However, this system is pretty much for  Straight Players ....at least on the surface. 

 If you still want to play Str/Box it might just help enough to score a Straight hit every once in awhile.   It's really very simple.... 

  It's a method to filter out over 27% of the possible numbers each draw.

 

                      How to filter out -271 numbers from the 1000 chart each time?

 

Easy ....just don't ever play the same digits in the same position the next day.  Tah Dah...thats it. 

 

                  Now we only have to deal with 729 Straight numbers .....not 1000 

 

  If the number the day before was say.... 012  Just make sure not to play any of those digits in the same position the next day. You can play it 201 etc ...just not in the same positions.

 By not playing any of those digits in the same postion...you have cut out 193 Single straights... 75 double straights ...and 3 trips.

 You just filtered out 271 straight numbers from the 1000 chart.  Banana

    Still bad odds huh?    Sorry.. its a mean game. LOL

    Started with 720 singles....  now 527 singles

    Started with 270 doubles..... now  195 doubles

    Started with   10 trips........ now      3 trips

 Remember ...change those digits around next day for Str/box plays. You might be doing a better job of filtering than you know and..... you will be right most of the time. Play the odds ..thats all we have ...............>> in the long run.      

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    


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    Posted: February 13, 2008, 6:59 pm - IP Logged

    720? Is that the best you can do?....lol

    How about using your system to bring the 1000 chart down to 81...yes 81.

    Let's say 012 came in last night and we don't play the 012 in their respective positions, like your system suggests.

    All you have to do is write 1-9  vertically on a sheet of paper for the first column. One of those numbers have to come out right? Considering the 0 dosen't come out because we don't want it to.

    Then just pick any 2 numbers you think will be the back pair, but do not pick the 1 or 2 as a choice because again...we don't want last night's numbers in their respective positions. So it would look like this. Say the back pair we choose would be 38.

    138

    238

    338

    438

    538

    638

    738

    838

    938

    The first column dosen't count because one of those numbers have to come out, so all we are worried about is the middle and last columns.

    9x9=81....So in essence we just have eliminated 979 possibilities.

    The back pairs have only 100 possibilities. That's 00-99, but we eliminiated one number for each position leaving us only 81 possibilities.

    For 9 bucks at a buck straight you'll win 500 bucks if 38 comes out in the back pair, at a chance of 1 in 81, instead of 1 in a 1000.

    I like those odds much better....lol

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      Posted: February 13, 2008, 11:47 pm - IP Logged

                                                    No  Box players allowed ... LOL 

        Just kidding.  However, this system is pretty much for  Straight Players ....at least on the surface. 

       If you still want to play Str/Box it might just help enough to score a Straight hit every once in awhile.   It's really very simple.... 

        It's a method to filter out over 27% of the possible numbers each draw.

       

                            How to filter out -271 numbers from the 1000 chart each time?

       

      Easy ....just don't ever play the same digits in the same position the next day.  Tah Dah...thats it. 

       

                        Now we only have to deal with 729 Straight numbers .....not 1000 

       

        If the number the day before was say.... 012  Just make sure not to play any of those digits in the same position the next day. You can play it 201 etc ...just not in the same positions.

       By not playing any of those digits in the same postion...you have cut out 193 Single straights... 75 double straights ...and 3 trips.

       You just filtered out 271 straight numbers from the 1000 chart.  Banana

          Still bad odds huh?    Sorry.. its a mean game. LOL

          Started with 720 singles....  now 527 singles

          Started with 270 doubles..... now  195 doubles

          Started with   10 trips........ now      3 trips

       Remember ...change those digits around next day for Str/box plays. You might be doing a better job of filtering than you know and..... you will be right most of the time. Play the odds ..thats all we have ...............>> in the long run.      

      Thanks for the tip. I only like to play str8

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        Posted: February 15, 2008, 8:47 am - IP Logged

        Your welcome jackpotismine. Str8 takes more faith in the future than Boxes ..... more money too but worth it in the long run.

         

         

        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                               Win d    

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          Posted: February 15, 2008, 9:04 am - IP Logged

          Hello pacattack05 !   I always enjoy looking at that 100 % first position list you do.....and think to myself .... I have try that for awhile. Always get side tracked.... but I'm gonna play around with it now.   

           Hmmm..... Say, the last time I saw that it occurred to me that we could cut down on that last or back pair choice. If, we looked back 10 or 20 draws and noted the back pairs that hit.....and  Subtracted those from our pair choices (for the next draw) it would work most of the time.

                     Depends on how far we go back and LUCK of course... but I would like to check it out.  First lets use Ga midday past draws and look at those back pairs.   

           1 .....xx   

          2

           3

          4

          5

          6

          7

           8

          9

          0   

          ====================================================

           

                 Hmmmm..... I don't know pac. Just went back on the number that hit yesterday to see how it might work in future and it really surprised me.

           The number was   564  Now pretending it had not hit yet I went back looking at the previous back pairs to subtract looking for the 64 pair at the same time. Guess what...we could have subtracted almost all the back pairs because the last time 64 hit on midday was NOV 7,2007. LOL 

            This could be interesting.

           

           

          The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                        Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                        Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                 Win d    

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            Posted: February 15, 2008, 9:32 am - IP Logged

                Went back on GA eve's draw last night which was ...........   8 02 

               Surprise again... we could have subtracted all the previously hit back pairs going back to last month and been safe!  This is interesting. 

             

            Thu, Feb 14, 2008GeorgiaCash 3   8-0-2
            Tue, Jan 15, 2008GeorgiaCash 3   3-0-2

             

             I am very curious ..... How many pairs can we go back and subtract .....and be safe for todays up coming draw?  Hmmmm .. let's just see about this.

             

             

            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                   Win d    

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              Posted: February 15, 2008, 1:32 pm - IP Logged

               The results are in for Ga Midday experiment.

               Yesterdays draw was 456 ..... now todays number was 491 

                We could have subtracted every straight pair from our back pair choice list going all the way back to last month ....Jan 15th. actually. Before we would have hit a repeating back pair.

                From the 100 straight back pairs to consider .... we could have gone back and subtracted almost a whole month's worth of back pairs.  Pretty strong filter !

               We REALLY DO need to do the math and consider the AVERAGES FOR REPEATING BACK PAIRS. 

               **Actually..... math average wise there are 100 straight back pairs....so....  We could go back 99 draws and chip away at that 100 straight chart....and be right several times a year. How would you like to subtract 75 or 80 of the back pairs from consideration? 

               Question: What percentage of straight back pairs exceed 100 draws per year before they repeat?  Hmmm

                           What percentage of straight back pairs exceed 50 draws per year?,,, etc.

                            What percent of straight back pairs repeat within 50 draws?   

                At any rote .... thats a lot of potential subtractions from the 100 straight back pairs list.

               

                                         Its a Bold filter .....but one to consider.

                            Perhaps ...just to check your final picks against for the repeat back pairs. 

                Going in the front door using this filter might be toooo much to play with. Even if you could subtract 90 of the 100 straight pairs from play ...... that would still mean you would have 10 pairs behind each one of your 0 through 9 static digits!  Sure ...they are Straight plays now....but it's still 100 tickets Pac.       

               

               

              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                     Win d    

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                Posted: February 15, 2008, 7:39 pm - IP Logged

                  Good example for Ga EVE.

                   802 last night

                   916 tonight.            9 16

                 

                Fri, Feb 15, 2008GeorgiaCash 3    9-1-6
                Mon, Dec 17, 2007GeorgiaCash 3    4-1-6

                 

                 

                  Clearly we could have subtracted almost 60 straight back pairs .....safely.  It would certainly worked subtracting 50 back pairs.  Throw in a couple other filters and the straights numbers would have been manageable. 

                 

                 

                The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                       Win d    

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                  Posted: February 16, 2008, 3:26 pm - IP Logged

                     Ga Midday for Saturday 504   

                     The o4 straight pair had not been hit for the last 60 or so draws.  Last seen back in Nov07

                      5 04

                      4  91   We could have subtracted about 50 or 60 straight pairs from the 100 pairs chart and still won.  Straight ! 

                     Also notice we did not get any digits to return next draw in same postion as the draw before.    

                   

                   

                  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                         Win d    


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                    Posted: February 16, 2008, 3:48 pm - IP Logged

                    Yeah Win D, we'll have to figure it down to just one ore two back pairs. Hopefully only one.

                    I would suggest doing the below 50 and above 50 overdue for the back pairs, and then reducing those 50 down to one. Easier said than done I know. 

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                      Posted: February 17, 2008, 1:03 pm - IP Logged

                      you both may have hit on something...mich...midday there were a few repeat back pair ..but evening there was not....then how about taking it a few steps further and look at front pairs and pairs in the 1-3 positions in str form ....may help reduce the list further... mich evening did well in that regard as well...thanks for the great input !!!

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                        Posted: February 17, 2008, 1:55 pm - IP Logged

                        I am curious, if you were to play 100 numbers straight only, over the last 10

                        days.  What would your profit had been (p/3).

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                          Chaz , Pac

                          This could be a powerful 50/50 filter. tHE ACTUAL 50/50 WILL BE BETWEEN 65 AND 70 DRAWS.

                           

                          80 DRAW REPEATS  SKIPS 2 3
                          0 3203 2.25                    0 5 4
                          1 3999 1.80                    1 1 1
                           7202     
                           44%     
                               
                          70 DRAW REPEATS  SKIPS 2 3
                          0 3522 2.04                   0 5 4
                          1 3680 1.96                   1 1 1
                           7202     
                           49%     
                           
                          These are the results before yesterday's draw. Reduced by BP .

                          No. of Results   : 344
                          No. of Selections: 118

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                            Posted: February 20, 2008, 11:15 am - IP Logged

                            Going to give this a shot for Fla 2/20/08. Removing pairs from last 65 draws,FP,SP,BP. The 50/50 split is @65.

                            Left with

                            OUTPUT DATA:
                            Priority: 1
                            302 - 240 - 802 - 217 - 325 - 823 - 425 - 427 - 265 - 725 - 267 - 862 - 827 - 829
                            Priority: 2
                            062, 260 - 072, 720 - 342, 423 - 362, 632 - 392, 932 - 249, 942 - 269, 962 - 297, 972
                            Priority: 3
                            327, 372, 723
                            Priority: 4
                            029, 092, 290, 902
                            No. of Results   : 37
                            No. of Selections: 24

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                              Going to give this a shot for Fla 2/20/08. Removing pairs from last 65 draws,FP,SP,BP. The 50/50 split is @65.

                              Left with

                              OUTPUT DATA:
                              Priority: 1
                              302 - 240 - 802 - 217 - 325 - 823 - 425 - 427 - 265 - 725 - 267 - 862 - 827 - 829
                              Priority: 2
                              062, 260 - 072, 720 - 342, 423 - 362, 632 - 392, 932 - 249, 942 - 269, 962 - 297, 972
                              Priority: 3
                              327, 372, 723
                              Priority: 4
                              029, 092, 290, 902
                              No. of Results   : 37
                              No. of Selections: 24

                              CARBOB, PAC and WIN D you guys do some good work.  I certanily appreciate all of your input and ideas.