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List of States Which Allow Anonymous Winners

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Posted: March 7, 2008, 11:35 am - IP Logged

The New Mexico reasoning of not being able to check the winner's name against monies owed is weak.  Indiana requires that a real person give their name and SSN to the lottery commission for that very reason.

Lilly,

I'm kind of new around here, but, if I were an Indiana winner, I'd want to know who said that a trust can't claim a prize, and whether or not the rule has been challenged. Corporations are considered "real persons" under the law; perhaps trusts are, too. Anyway, I wouldn't accept such a rule on its face, much less the say-so of a lottery commissionaire.

Well, true.  But for me the Indiana procedure is completely copacetic, and I'd accept it without question since my main goal is to remain anon which their rules provide for.  Guess I wouldn't be happy if I owed child support I didn't want to pay. 

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    Well, true.  But for me the Indiana procedure is completely copacetic, and I'd accept it without question since my main goal is to remain anon which their rules provide for.  Guess I wouldn't be happy if I owed child support I didn't want to pay. 

    I don't know what "PRA requests" includes, and so that is one concern of mine. Another is the fact that there is confidentialty and there is confidentiality. To put it another way, some lottery commissions consider your information confidential unless someone asks (because of the value to the state of public disclosure). That kind of confidentiality I can live without. It's unclear to me exactly what's going on in Indiana.

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      Indiana LC said the paperwork will identify the trust only.  A smart winner would have an attorney confirm that and make sure it's in writing, but it sounds like they are committed to keeping winners anon if they wish to be.

      As for New Mexico, they sound like such hard asses, if I lived there I think I'd be traveling to AZ or CO for Powerball, or Texas for MegaMillions.  I wouldn't even want to try to deal with NM.  Let the surrounding states get my money for their schools. 

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        myturn, you're making me want to become an ex-pat.  G'day mate!  How am I doing so far?  Big Smile

        Is there serious speculation in NZ and Australia about whether or not real people win?  Because that seems to be the prevailing excuse here when lottery commissions are asked about remaining anon. 

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          Washington - No (email)

          Thank you for your inquiry to Washington ’s Lottery.  We appreciate the opportunity to provide you with information we hope you will find useful.

          State law provides the Lottery to publish the name, city of residence and prize of Lottery winners.  Winners can claim through creating a trust, but the documents of the trust, which must contain the natural persons behind the trust, are public records.  The media are well aware of this fact.  In other words, there are no absolutes.

          Some people inquire about remaining anonymous because they are under the common misperception that Lottery winners claiming a large prize are subject to safety concerns or harassed for donations.  I am very happy to tell you that is not the case in Washington .  Our largest Lottery winners have experienced no problems whatsoever and live life as before, with the exception of a different bank account balance. 

          I hope that helps to answer your question.   Thank you for your interest in Washington’s Lottery.

          Jacque Coe, APR

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            Posted: March 7, 2008, 4:45 pm - IP Logged

            "Winners can claim through creating a trust, but the documents of the trust, which must contain the natural persons behind the trust, are public records.  The media are well aware of this fact."

            That's the best answer you're reported. Since any legal entity can own property, any legal entity can own a lottery ticket. Most lotteries should be willing to pay that entity, but if there is a law or rule that requires that prizes be paid to individuals then that's what the lottery will do. If the records of any entity are public then the public obviously has a right to those records. Regardless of how cooperative the lottery is, if you claim through an entity in which your name is available to the public then the public may find out who the real winner is.

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              Posted: March 7, 2008, 10:54 pm - IP Logged

              I don't want to run this into the ground, so this will be my last comment on this subject.

              As I said previously: Just because the Lottery Commission says something, that "don't make it so." You need a lawyer, and a darn good one -- not just because, until you get your own legal expert's opinion, the law is always in doubt -- even if it's against you in bold black letters -- but because the Lottery Commission is not your ally in this matter. At best, it's neutral, and frequently it's your adversary. Despite the smiles and handshakes, this is a business for them. Don't ever forget it.

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                Washington - No (email)

                Thank you for your inquiry to Washington ’s Lottery.  We appreciate the opportunity to provide you with information we hope you will find useful.

                State law provides the Lottery to publish the name, city of residence and prize of Lottery winners.  Winners can claim through creating a trust, but the documents of the trust, which must contain the natural persons behind the trust, are public records.  The media are well aware of this fact.  In other words, there are no absolutes.

                Some people inquire about remaining anonymous because they are under the common misperception that Lottery winners claiming a large prize are subject to safety concerns or harassed for donations.  I am very happy to tell you that is not the case in Washington .  Our largest Lottery winners have experienced no problems whatsoever and live life as before, with the exception of a different bank account balance. 

                I hope that helps to answer your question.   Thank you for your interest in Washington’s Lottery.

                Jacque Coe, APR

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                That is actually not correct. They have had anonymous winners before. Years ago (early 90's) a family set up a trust to claim the ticket. They had so many people in the picture you couldn't tell who the hell won. You could also set up a corporation as a trustee as well. It's far better than Oregon. As with any state if you really want to be anonymous you had better get an attorney before you claim the prize.

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                  In Louisiana, winners cannot claim anonymously but they are allowed to claim using a trust or corporation.  The lottery publishes the name of the trust or corporation that collects the prize.

                  However, when a trust claimed a prize sometime back, the local paper somehow got the name of the winner.  I don't know if they got it through her attorney, the lottery, or where, but they got the name and she consented to an interview.

                  Anonymity isn't easy to get in the U.S. these days.

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                    myturn, you're making me want to become an ex-pat.  G'day mate!  How am I doing so far?  Big Smile

                    Is there serious speculation in NZ and Australia about whether or not real people win?  Because that seems to be the prevailing excuse here when lottery commissions are asked about remaining anon. 

                    No LuckyLilly, here state lotteries have a good repudiation so there is no speculation. There are lots of checks and balances, the draws are not run by a few blokes in a back room. Also, Australia doesn't seen to have, unlike America, so many conspiracy theorists; no offence to my Yankee friends. I think most Australians take the view, 'If I won, I wouldn't want the whole country knowing'.

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                      I wrote the Ks Lottery and this is what they said:

                      In order for us to use your name, you must sign a Public Disclosure Authorization form.  If you choose not to sign the form then you will remain anonymous.  If you have further questions, please let us know.  Thank you.

                       

                      Karie R. Lowe

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                      Kansas Lottery

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                        I wrote the Ks Lottery and this is what they said:

                        In order for us to use your name, you must sign a Public Disclosure Authorization form.  If you choose not to sign the form then you will remain anonymous.  If you have further questions, please let us know.  Thank you.

                         

                        Karie R. Lowe

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                        Kansas Lottery

                        Another anon Powerball state!  Cool!  Thanks, Wheeler.

                        Does KS have the Sizzler on Hot Lotto?  Do you play it? 

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                          Another anon Powerball state!  Cool!  Thanks, Wheeler.

                          Does KS have the Sizzler on Hot Lotto?  Do you play it? 

                          Yes  Kansas' Hot Lotto has the sizzler. I haven't played Hot Lotto for a long time but did play a few times when it came to Kansas Didn't win anything

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                            Not sure if this covers Illinois or Georgia, but on WGN-TV (Chicago) news last night they showed winners from December just showing up now to claim their jackpot.

                            The cjeck was made out to a trust "JVS" family or something or other, and one woman, wearing large lensed sunglasses showed up to claim it, or she is one of the trust who accepted the check.

                            A spokeswoman for the lottery presented the check and kind of danced around who "JVS" was.  

                            On the news they explained that this was all ok according to the lottery rules. 

                            So I guess either Georgia or Illinois or perhaps Mega millions gets a yes on anonymous- with an asterisk, kind of.  It looked like shades or not, people who knew this woman would recognize her- if she is the actual or one of the actual winners.

                            Anyone else see this? There's nothing about it on the Illinois lottery website.

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                               on Wednesday the CA lotto announced a 5# winner of the Feb 15 MM ($368,554) had finally stepped forward, but said this "While he understands the public’s curiosity about his story and is willing to share some details, he prefers to remain anonymous"