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Iowa Lottery requires winners to sign tickets
Mar 10, 2008, 10:24 am (20 comments)SharePostCopy Link
On the heels of a similar announcement from the Ontario Lottery, the Iowa Lottery has imposed a new rule aimed at reducing the possibility of retailer fraud.
Starting March 15, 2008, Iowa retailers will only be able to check and cash lottery tickets if they have first been signed by the ticketholder.
The lottery also reinforced that players are responsible for the accuracy of their tickets before leaving the store, and for determining if their ticket is a winner.
Under current rules, retailers are able to scan unsigned tickets and inform players if they won. The possibility of retailer fraud emerges in the situation where a player is informed by the retailer that a winning ticket was a loser, and the retailer later claims the winning ticket themselves.
In Ontario, this situation played out so many times that the Ontario Lottery suffered a severe blow to its reputation, and was forced to institute strict ticket-signing rules. Investigations by police caught some of the criminal retailers, but many others are thought to have escaped prosecution.
In addition to the new ticket-signing rule, the Iowa Lottery will also begin printing receipts for every lottery ticket scanned at a retailer, whether it was a winner or not. The receipts will be printed starting sometime in May.
On the Iowa Lottery Web site, the lottery claims that, "[R]eports of fraud, theft and scams [occur] every day." The Iowa Lottery has a section on the site titled, "Player Security", with the tagline, "We take fun seriously." (http://www.ialottery.com/Player_Security/Player_Security.html)
The site contains player security tips, explanations of the new ticket-signing rule, a discussion of lottery scams, and various ways to report fraud. It will be joined by a planned public service campaign that will educate players about the changes.
Iowa Lottery vice president, Mary Neubauer, says the minute you put your name on the ticket, it protects you, it also protects the store from claims they did something wrong. She explained that it helps maintain the integrity of the entire lottery system.
Iowa lottery leaders say it will cost about $500,000 dollars a year to put the plan into practice.
I suppose it's not a really big deal, I guess it's good. But if you dont win anything above a couple hundred i dont see the big deal in signing the tickets.
Plus that's in Ontario, Im nowhere near there so I cant really have input.
Starting March 15, 2008, Iowa retailers will only be able to check andcash lottery tickets if they have first been signed by the ticketholder.
I wonder if this is going to start happening in other states.
Many Publix supermarkets in Georgia have a self-scanner for customers to check their own tickets without them leaving their hand. That method would probably cut down on needing a receipt for every ticket scanned. Maybe it was more cost effective for Iowa to do it that way instead of installing self scanners for all retailers.
i hope so
I don't see how signing the tickets will help. If it's a $50 winner, could the clerk not just say woo hoo you won $5 and take the rest for him/herself after you leave the store? If you know how much it won and complain, they could say oops I misread it. It is $50. Is the lottery commission going to start calling people and ask if they were paid the correct amount? They'd have a tough time with mine cuz my signature is illegible.
We have self-checkers here too, but they still don't tell you how much you won. They just say please see the cashier. Do those in other states tell you how much?
I'm not sure if they tell you how much here or not. However, it's easy enough to ask for a printout ticket showing winning numbers on a given day, then checking the back of a play slip for payout amounts .... after signing and before handing it over to the clerk.
Read the rest of the report -- you get a printed receipt.
If you're not informed enough to know what you won, are you going to know to ask for that receipt?
Absolutely. In the U.S., lottery winnings are taxable as income.
Receipt for you, receipt for retailer, receipt for taxman. 1099-G
I made a comment about this in another thread, a few days ago.
Not the worst change Iowa ever made to it's lottery, but still a big hassle just to protect those that are too lazy to check their own numbers.
I agree. When I lived in the New York/New Jersersey area a few years back, I used to see the "Latino's" lined up for hours to buy tickets. I don't think three of them could speak or read English. All the receipts in the world are useless. If a divorce is not a divorce, when it comes to a whinny wife wanting compensation, then a recipt is as valid as the divorce papers.
Not a bad idea.
There's the key issue. The only people who have a problem are the ones who aren't on the ball enough to take care of themselves. A scanner that only tells you to see a cashier is almost worthless for checking tickets, since the cashier could have done that for you anyway, and it's completly worthless for protecting those who don't know how much they've won.
As far as having to sign the ticket, I suppose retailers will be happy when it stops people from simply handing over a huge stack of tickets to be checked, but I don't see what it will do to stop retailers from lying. The stories I recall seem to be about retailers lying about how much was won, not stealing the ticket outright. Is anyone who would have accepted $10 for an unsigned ticket that won $100 going to know they should get more money just because they signed the ticket?
I agree with you, since that certainly could happen if someone doesn't ask for a receipt. I got a receipt when I won $72.50 in January, but I wasn't asked to sign the ticket. I guess it would also prevent a clerk or store owner from claiming a big prize at the lottery office, although when my tickets are scanned at Publix, I can see the total due. Still, if everyone would just check the newspaper, call the lottery or, if they use the internet, check their tickets online, there wouldn't be any thefts. I know a sweet lady in her 80s who waits for a couple of months and then takes all her tickets to the supermarket to be checked. I warned her, but she said to me "They're nice girls." I sometimes wonder if she's one of the people with unclaimed tickets.
When I walk into a store I always say "this is a $5 winner" BEFORE I hand it to the clerk. I don't think the clerks where I shop are dishonest, however. If I had a $500 win, I wouldn't want to sign my name. Also, unless they ask for a photo ID like a driver's license, how do they know it's really your name?
Sounds time consuming to me.
A winner is a winner no matter who has it. People do not deserve what they get if they do not know how much they won. Some people have crazy ideas what is right and wrong. Self scanners that tell the amount won are good. Signing the ticket is great and a receipt is good. So many people do whatever they like on the assumption that they will not get caught. The test of true character is not what people do when others are watching, but what people do when they are alone, in the dark. Many are found wanting. The people who win need the money too and the little old lady who has won with no idea may need to pay rent, buy groceries, pay her bills. She may buy a ticket on a whim and hope for a miracle but not remember to check until she finds it in her purse. The retailer who steals her winnings is stealing her destiny for a little happiness. People who are caught should not just pay back the winnings; they should repay the pain and suffering for stealing a little happiness in an otherwise dark life. A nice figure is 5x the amount in pain and suffering to be paid with assets or in nice painful monthly installments. I am sick to the teeth of this victimization due to chance opportunity. In my community an ex-nurse walked into a local hospice and disconnected the dying patients morphine drips and stole the drugs to sell and line her pockets. This is a sad world sometimes and opportunity crimes deprive needy people not only of money but dreams and hope.
I don't think it's a bad idea, but I'm responsible and I don't want to have to sign every little winning $1 to $10 dollar ticket I have. I know if I have a winner before I take it into the store. I don't shove the ticket in the clerks face and ask them to check my ticket. I wonder, does this mean that "TPTB" will be able to keep track of our small winnings and it be shown on are taxes or something?
Arizona plays the song were in the money when a winning ticket is checked and that way you know you have at least won a prize. It is the players responsibility to ask for a players receipt to know they are being paid exactly what they won. God bless and good luck.
TSC, do you know if they offer receipts in Idaho? I've never been offered one and I've never asked. But then again, I win so seldom, maybe I've just fallen thru the cracks.
No, I've never been offered a receipt either. My biggest win was like $30 or something. lol. I tend to win bunches of small prizes, so I'm thinking they don't give receipts out for small wins.
While I agree with most of your post,I disagree with this statement:
People do not deserve what they get if they do not know how much they won.
Everyone that buys a lottery ticket that wins,deserves to be paid.Sometimes people don't know how much they won,especially if they are playing game that does not specify on the ticket how much was won.Powerball,Mega Millions and other online games don't tell you if you won or not,and they certainly don't tell you how much you won.Instant scratch off tickets are a different story,but even some of them can be hard to decipher.Just because a person doesn't know how much he/she won is no reason not to pay them.
Personally,I'm glad that Iowa will start requiring signatures on winning tickets,tomorrow.I have read to many horror storys about dishonest clerks,however,none in Iowa.