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An Ethical Dilemma...

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Take the entire $9 in tickets [ 38 ]  [76.00%]
Take only the $5 in tickets that you put in [ 3 ]  [6.00%]
Contact a store employee [ 4 ]  [8.00%]
Other (Please explain) [ 5 ]  [10.00%]
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Posted: March 26, 2008, 10:59 pm - IP Logged

Some time ago I decided to try not to be so honest I was being stupid about it.  Three weeks ago the store charges us for a cheaper fruit then we were buying the next week we get home and the can of corn we paid for is missing, things kind of balance out. 

You never know what kind of a can of worms you are opening. People come back to a store to return the $5.00 extra the cashier gave them by mistake.  The cashier had replaced the missing $5.00 when counting out the drawer.  The cashier is already 2 times over or short by $5 or more and now 3rd strike loses the job thanks to the honest customer.

I only pick up things that have already been truely abandon by their owners, that's how we got our cats, bastards moved and abandon them.

BobP

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    Posted: March 27, 2008, 6:32 am - IP Logged

    I would take the entire amount. I agree, it would be impossible to trace the last person that used the machine. If you go to a clerk or anyone else, they may take it for themselves, so you would be giving it away. Strange things happen though, maybe it was meant for you to have those extra credits.

    Here's something that happened to me and I think my guardians Angels (or spirit guides) had a hand in it. I went to the race track, I told the cashier I wanted a $2 bet on horse number 2. And I thought that's what I was getting. I did not look at the ticket and stuck it in my pocket and I proceeded to watch the race. Well, a long shot came in 1st place and it was horse number 5. I thought I had lost. I looked at my ticket and the cashier had mistakenly given me a $2 bet on horse number 5 instead of horse number 2. I was surprised and that long shot horse number 5 paid off at $35.00. I figured my guardian Angels (spirit guides) could not get through to me so they went through the cashier placing my bet. :)

    We all have spirit guides and guardian Angels helping us, just ask for their help and follow your intuition.

     

    ~~~"The only real valuable thing is intuition." - Albert Einstein~~~

    Sandy

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      Posted: March 27, 2008, 7:48 am - IP Logged

      How do you know if you have integrity (good moral character): By what you do when you are alone and no one is watching: Do you take what's not yours or do you return it to its' rightful owner?

      A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

        myzeus's avatar - Apollo
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        Posted: March 27, 2008, 8:23 am - IP Logged

        If I could find the rightful owner, I would return it. If you can't find the owner, why give it to someone else who does not own it?

        Sandy


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          Posted: March 27, 2008, 11:56 am - IP Logged

          I would take the entire amount. I agree, it would be impossible to trace the last person that used the machine. If you go to a clerk or anyone else, they may take it for themselves, so you would be giving it away. Strange things happen though, maybe it was meant for you to have those extra credits.

          Here's something that happened to me and I think my guardians Angels (or spirit guides) had a hand in it. I went to the race track, I told the cashier I wanted a $2 bet on horse number 2. And I thought that's what I was getting. I did not look at the ticket and stuck it in my pocket and I proceeded to watch the race. Well, a long shot came in 1st place and it was horse number 5. I thought I had lost. I looked at my ticket and the cashier had mistakenly given me a $2 bet on horse number 5 instead of horse number 2. I was surprised and that long shot horse number 5 paid off at $35.00. I figured my guardian Angels (spirit guides) could not get through to me so they went through the cashier placing my bet. :)

          We all have spirit guides and guardian Angels helping us, just ask for their help and follow your intuition.

           

          ~~~"The only real valuable thing is intuition." - Albert Einstein~~~

          "We all have spirit guides and guardian Angels helping us, just ask for their help and follow your intuition."

           

          Where might I find these "spirit guides" and "guardian angels"?

          I can use their help.


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            Posted: March 27, 2008, 12:08 pm - IP Logged

            "We all have spirit guides and guardian Angels helping us, just ask for their help and follow your intuition."

             

            Where might I find these "spirit guides" and "guardian angels"?

            I can use their help.

            Look in the yellow pages. They're right there next to tooth fairies and goblins.

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              Posted: March 27, 2008, 12:30 pm - IP Logged

              With astronomical odds, technically 4 extra dollars wouldnt benefit that much to your advantage.

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                Posted: March 27, 2008, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

                I highly doubt any store monitors each person who uses such machines, so there is no way one could be certain WHO actually left the extra credits.  Since money is a bearers instrument (except for when it can be distinctly linked to the true owner...i.e. ID in a bag of money, observing a person drop money and not notice it), I would have no problem purchasing 9 QPs. 

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                  Posted: March 28, 2008, 2:29 am - IP Logged

                  If the person that was at the machine prior to me was in shouting distance, I would yell at them, and if not, I'd keep all 9 tickets.

                  I also ask myself what would someone else do if I was at the opposite end of that - if I didn't know to grab all the tickets I had paid for ?   They'd scroo me.... no doubt.

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                    Posted: March 28, 2008, 3:13 am - IP Logged

                    Some time ago I decided to try not to be so honest I was being stupid about it.  Three weeks ago the store charges us for a cheaper fruit then we were buying the next week we get home and the can of corn we paid for is missing, things kind of balance out. 

                    You never know what kind of a can of worms you are opening. People come back to a store to return the $5.00 extra the cashier gave them by mistake.  The cashier had replaced the missing $5.00 when counting out the drawer.  The cashier is already 2 times over or short by $5 or more and now 3rd strike loses the job thanks to the honest customer.

                    I only pick up things that have already been truely abandon by their owners, that's how we got our cats, bastards moved and abandon them.

                    BobP

                    You are so right, Bob!  Once I asked for "cash back" when I used my debit card and got too much.  I went back to the store and the cashier said to me "do you know what kind of trouble you just caused?" 

                        "No good deed goes unpunished."

                    PS:  Thanks for feeding abandoned animals.

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                      Posted: March 28, 2008, 2:00 pm - IP Logged

                      I don't consider this an ethical "dilemma." Just a matterof doing the decent human thing--you can't keep what's not yours,especially when you know whose it is.

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                        Posted: March 28, 2008, 2:17 pm - IP Logged

                        I don't consider this an ethical "dilemma." Just a matterof doing the decent human thing--you can't keep what's not yours,especially when you know whose it is.

                        In the example stated, the person did not know who it belonged to.

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                          Posted: March 28, 2008, 5:58 pm - IP Logged

                          In the example stated, the person did not know who it belonged to.

                          Please read the original post before voting.

                          You voted for this choiceTake the entire $9 in tickets[ 35 ] [76.09%]
                          Take only the $5 in tickets that you put in[ 3 ] [6.52%]
                          Contact a store employee[ 4 ] [8.70%]
                          Other (Please explain)[ 4 ] [8.70%]
                          Total Valid Votes[ 46 ] 
                          Discarded Votes[ 3 ] 

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                            DC81's avatar - batman39
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                            Posted: March 28, 2008, 6:42 pm - IP Logged

                            I believe this falls under the "rules" of "finders keepers". Maybe if you would have won then you could have looked into finding the person and give them their four dollars back. Big Smile

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