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Posted: March 30, 2008, 1:55 pm - IP Logged

While backtesting helps, that is not completey proof as many have already found out, check a long htread here at thisf orum by Boris, he won a lot on past draws, but on future drawsalmost nothing at all, didn't even beat random.

Also 20 or even 100 past draws of a test is not enough, the only real proof is future draws test for about 90 to 120 draws.

-------------Check this out:

http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/170209/976021 

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    Posted: March 30, 2008, 3:00 pm - IP Logged

             Already sent LottoBuster the info and stats ...etc.  !   It shouldn't take him very long to get back on his findings.  I think the Positive numbers will actually be a little better than first seen.     

     

     

    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                           Win d    

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      Posted: March 30, 2008, 3:15 pm - IP Logged

      Without giving anything away as promised it's a system I have backtested myself in NY and other states with mixed results. It's like anything, if you can catch it when hot then the profits are good but it does go cold.

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        Posted: March 30, 2008, 3:16 pm - IP Logged

                 Already sent LottoBuster the info and stats ...etc.  !   It shouldn't take him very long to get back on his findings.  I think the Positive numbers will actually be a little better than first seen.     

        I thought  this was an April Fool's prank, but you're starting to sound serious. 

        What I don't understand is why you're not using it to make thousands of dollars instead selling it for $1000.

        I don't understand your business model unless you're not interested in getting rich but just trying to spread the wealth and make a lot of lottery players happy.Wink

        I'll wait for you to come up with something for the jackpot and pick5 games since I'm not a fan of the pick3 and pick4 games.

        Good luck to you and LottoBusters.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: March 30, 2008, 3:38 pm - IP Logged

            RJOH,   Geeezzz ...I am not selling anything

                I think most adults here have known me long enough to know.... that most of the time my post are just crude attempts to entertain while presenting a version of Systems/Probabilities etc in a colorful way.  

           

                    Only this time RJOH .... this is an actual demonstration of a Workable System with very good results. In actuality... this particular demo was with a 50% success rate not the orginal 45%.   

           

                      It is just that .... a Workable System ..... thats free and Lottobuster can confirm that it .....can hit with a success rate of at least 50% !  With only 20 % of the numbers. Confirmed ....right lottobuster?

           

                      Let's put it this way..... I haven't ever seen anything posted that hits that high. 

           

                       The actual result ....if played on line would be 3,600 cost ....... $ 8,100 gross profit. 

           

           

           

               P.S.   Frankly.....  I am surprised how few thought hitting Straights every other day .....not boxes....  with only 20% of the numbers was something good or not.  LOL  

                                                      Believe me....it's good ..... it's real good !  

           

           

          The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                        Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                        Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                 Win d    

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            Posted: March 30, 2008, 3:58 pm - IP Logged

            That would be great, but when are we gonna seeeeeeeeeee it??

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              Posted: March 30, 2008, 4:04 pm - IP Logged

              That would be great, but when are we gonna seeeeeeeeeee it??

               That's the funny part Shawn ........  several folks already have ...and never even said a word. It was already posted ....and it was for Midday Ga. and it ran from March 10th. until yesterday. 

                      I swear ... I think it could have gone to 90% ...and gotten the same responce.LOL Hell, it still might.

               

               

                  It was about 20% ....Straights singles and doubles.

                   There were  9 Straight hits during the 18 draws ..... Half of them.  

               

                     Here ya go....   http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/171683/1004374 

               

               

              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                     Win d    

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                Posted: March 30, 2008, 4:17 pm - IP Logged

                I just went back and looked at EVERY number that has been drawn in Oklahoma so far this month and this list has only hit five times. By my calculations that would be a HUGE loss. Am I misunderstanding something? Please explain.

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                  Posted: March 30, 2008, 4:27 pm - IP Logged

                   Those were Unhit Straights on the Ga Midday game specifically  Don't ya see ...we use the numbers for that particular state game.....  .... it's not just   .... ....these aren't just for any old  .... oh ... heck....   Never mind.   Look into the light ! LOL  

                                                              .

                   

                   

                  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                         Win d    

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                    Posted: March 30, 2008, 4:36 pm - IP Logged

                    Duh........my bad. I see now. So basically this is kind of using the same system that lotterybraker has been talking about for the last couple of years now........using either numbers that have not hit, or numbers that are the longest out and playing them for straights only. Sorry, I'm slow, but I catch on eventually.Chair

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                      Posted: March 30, 2008, 4:43 pm - IP Logged

                      NO! Any system can hit 45% of the time if it includes enough combinations.

                      It has to make a profit to be worth paying for.

                      I Agree!  A successful system must be about profitablitiy, not "hitting" the draw.

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                        Posted: March 30, 2008, 4:51 pm - IP Logged

                          Did you read the results ?

                            Even if all 20% were played badger......  even if ....all the numbers were played there was a profit.

                         

                            Anyway.... at any rate .... would you like to stare at 1000 numbers and try to pull out a win every other day. ....or  ....stare at 200 numbers and choose from there?  Yes, 200 is better isn't it? 

                           Thats where the 8,100 dollar Gross Profit figure came from.   

                         

                         

                            To give you an example .... at one point the digit 9 was out for 60 ++ draws ...... If a person was tracking that ....and looked at the 14 or so Straights along side the digit 9 on the list....... that might be what some call a great bet .... and guess what ?  It was .... 976 hit Straight

                         

                         

                        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                               Win d    

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                            Did you read the results ?

                              Even if all 20% were played badger......  even if ....all the numbers were played there was a profit.

                           

                              Anyway.... at any rate .... would you like to stare at 1000 numbers and try to pull out a win every other day. ....or  ....stare at 200 numbers and choose from there?  Yes, 200 is better isn't it? 

                             Thats where the 8,100 dollar Gross Profit figure came from.   

                           

                           

                              To give you an example .... at one point the digit 9 was out for 60 ++ draws ...... If a person was tracking that ....and looked at the 14 or so Straights along side the digit 9 on the list....... that might be what some call a great bet .... and guess what ?  It was .... 976 hit Straight

                          Nice angle WIN D. Thumbs Up   Now if we can just find a piece of software that will sort the digits and combos by last date out  and  in the process show the vtrac for each combo then we will be all set. As it is though this has the makings of one heck of a tool for selecting daily picks.  Simplicity at its best! Thanks a bunch for sharing this ideal with us.

                          Jeff

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                             Those were Unhit Straights on the Ga Midday game specifically  Don't ya see ...we use the numbers for that particular state game.....  .... it's not just   .... ....these aren't just for any old  .... oh ... heck....   Never mind.   Look into the light ! LOL  

                                                                        .

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                              Hi,

                              this is not exactly a 'system', Chaz.Well, it is, but isn't lol

                              I know where this data (straights missing) is coming from (i wrote the thing lol --> "What hit/what's dead" in LotSoftPro),

                              but the thing is, with every straight from the list that hits, it will take longer for the next one to hit.And for the third one to hit it will even take longer. The amount of draws in between grows and grows.This is ofcourse statistically speaking.

                              I have added an export function to all the lists.

                              Tonight i will add a tool that will visually show the amount of draws that occur in between each time a number from the list comes in. (i'll do it for all the straights, might be more info in there)

                              cheersRicky

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