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# How often does a digit or digits follow into the next draw?

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Tx
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This is the Doubles 2 digits no show on the next draw technique.

Sat, Apr 05, 2008    6-7-4, No Digits repeated

Fri, Apr 04, 2008    0-9-9, Double

Thu, Apr 03, 2008    7-6-1,

Wed, Apr 02, 2008    7-8-9,

Tue, Apr 01, 2008    7-9-2,

Mon, Mar 31, 2008    6-2-0, 1 Digit repeated

Sat, Mar 29, 2008    3-0-3, Double

Fri, Mar 28, 2008    0-6-5,

Thu, Mar 27, 2008    3-8-0, No Digits repeated

Wed, Mar 26, 2008    7-2-2, Double

Out of 3 times, 2 times no digits repeated from last to next draws using the Doubles 2 digits technique.

56 played combos X 3 draws = 168

\$80 won 2 times = \$160.

So \$8 were lost and no profit was made at all. (If it had been for real).

So the 56 combos played per draw would need to be reduced some.

I hope that there are no more mistakes here, now-days I make too many mistakes and too often.

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Can you see how on those draws the Doubles had the lowest repeat rates of digits from last to next draw.

As the Singles had very high repeat rates.

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Texas Pick 3 Day

Sat, Apr 05, 2008    5-4-4 No Repeats

Fri, Apr 04, 2008    3-9-3 No Repeats

Thu, Apr 03, 2008    6-5-0 No Repeat

Wed, Apr 02, 2008    2-8-4 No Repeat

Tue, Apr 01, 2008    6-2-9 No Repeat

Mon, Mar 31, 2008    4-4-7 No Repeat

Sat, Mar 29, 2008    9-5-0 No Repeat

Fri, Mar 28, 2008    3-2-1 No Repeat

Thu, Mar 27, 2008    5-9-0 Repeat

Wed, Mar 26, 2008    0-0-6

On this Midday game there were almost no repeats from one draw to the next one.

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Quick observation from this end:

If there are three different numbers in the draw there will be 343 different combinations which will not contain any of those three numbers and 657 different combinations which will contain at least one of those numbers.
If there is a double there will be 512 different combinations which will not contain either of those two numbers and 488 different combinations which will contain at least one of those numbers.
If there is a triple there will be 729 different combinations which will not contain that number and 271 combinations which will contain that number.

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Stone Mountain*Georgia
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Here is another way to look at it.

Any time you have 3 different digits in the draw each day ......then that gives you this

Box wise ...of the 220 boxes in the Pick 3 game... then those 3 digits come form a group of 657 straights  or 136 Boxes.

657 straights = 136 boxes or (85 single boxes .... 48 doubles ...and 3 trips)

The group of numbers that will Not contain one of the 3 digits

343 Straights  =84 boxes or  (35 single boxes ....42 doubles .....and 7 trips)

On average you see ....you can plan on a NO Digit Return ......1 out of 3 draws

* That means you can always play the 35 single numbers (boxes) and get a hit...if no double or trip hits.  Heck.... only 35 single boxes at .25 cents... is 8.75

Any time you are looking at any 3 digit number....  no matter what they are ...then you are looking at a potential comeback from  a group containing ......   657 numbers.

In other words if the number was ....123    then know that there are always 657 numbers that contain either a digit 1...2 or a 3 in them.

Even if the number was say...... 012  .... then, there are ALWAYS  657 numbers that contain one of those 3 digits .

So,....  it is right that there is a 66 % chance of at least a 1 digit return because that covers most of the 1000 numbers .......... actually  65.7  of the   numbers or round up to ... 66%.

Of course there is the other way to look at it....

It means that there are always 343 numbers that do not contain one of the 3 digits each day as well.     ......or .... a  34 % chance at least one of the digits won't repeat next draw.

Johnph 77

If there is a double there will be 512 different combinations which will not contain either of those two numbers and 488 different combinations which will contain at least one of those numbers.
If there is a triple there will be 729 different combinations which will not contain that number and 271 combinations which will contain that number.

Thanks Johnph....Good to see the focus from this direction ..... I believe we can start from there and work back wards toward workable answers and strategies.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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I like to know how often a digit follows' into the next draw. Like for example, Michigan Evening 3-digits for April 1-3 are:

April 1 - 702
April 2 - 729
April 3 - 532

So the 7 and the 2 followed from the 702, to get 729, than the 2 followed from 729 to 532.

Does that help pick the Key (number) for the next day? I know a run can't last for along time from digit to digit. or chasing a single number or numbers from 1 digit to the next draw not worth it?

NJ 2007 Midday-To-Midday: 364 Draws

134 0-Digit Repeats
163 1-Digit Repeats
059 2-Digit Repeats
008 3-Digit Repeats

NJ 2008 Midday-To-Midday: 96 Draws

37 0-Digit Repeats
39 1-Digit Repeats
19 2-Digit Repeats
01 3-Digit Repeats

I would think you would see similar results in Michigan.

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Stone Mountain*Georgia
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michdew....

since 1984 on the MI eve draws here are your eve averages.

For a  O . digit return ...... average every 2.51 draws  .....the record skip was 14 in a row.

For a   1. digit return....... average every 2.1 draws......            record skip was 15 in a row

For a  2 digit return...........average .......8.23 draws........        record skip was  58 in a row.

For MI midday...about the same since 12/19/96          Med skip                Records were

0. digit return average was.......2.53 draws                1                           17

1. digit.......................................2.11                            1                          15

2. digit ...................................... 7.98                         4                             56

FYI..the longest 1 digit skip in North America right now is MN eve ....out at 4 draws

the longest 2 digit skip ...................................................NY eve......out at 43

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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NJ 2007 Evening-To-Evening: 364 Draws

149 0-Digit Repeats
150 1-Digit Repeats
056 2-Digit Repeats
009 3-Digit Repeats

NJ 2008 Evening-To-Evening: 96 Draws

43 0-Digit Repeats
39 1-Digit Repeats
14 2-Digit Repeats
00 3-Digit Repeats

A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

Stone Mountain*Georgia
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NJ 2007 Evening-To-Evening: 364 Draws

149 0-Digit Repeats
150 1-Digit Repeats
056 2-Digit Repeats
009 3-Digit Repeats

NJ 2008 Evening-To-Evening: 96 Draws

43 0-Digit Repeats
39 1-Digit Repeats
14 2-Digit Repeats
00 3-Digit Repeats

Tried to send you a PM ...but box is full.

Happy Monday Raven !  Is that even a saying?  Think I will let that one die out ...LOL

Anyway..... I can tell the Digit Return thing sparked your interest like it did mine.

Ran across something on New Jersey draws and thought to share it just in case it might be close.

NJ eve

since 1973

4,432 ........0 digit returns.....current skip 0 ...average every 2.54  med.. 1

5,323.........1 digit returns.....current skip 5 ...average every 2.12  med..1

1,447 ........2 digit ..................................3 .............................7.78   med 5

Notice the 1 digit return skip .....currently out  5 .......... that is probably about the end.

At any rate....thought you might enjoy seeing some of the NJ stats from a historical vantage.....and consider a play on the 1 digit return stack.

Saw all those low LDR's in a row ....7 in a row....and pondered Hmmm .....  at least 2 good  filters.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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 Posted: April 7, 2008, 5:05 pm - IP Logged

The Stats from the beginning of the NJ Lottery seem to agree with the shorter term Stats (1 year & last 3 months) that I posted.

Playing 1 Digit Returns seems to be a Good Playing Strategy, but their is still no way to tell which one of the 3 unmatched digits will return. lol...

Maybe Playing 0 Digit Returns would be a better Strategy, but wheeling 7 digits is still too many combos. Maybe 0 Digit Return Woba Combos? lol...

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After 1st 100 Draws From Jan. 1, 2008-April 10, 2008 Midday & Evening in Michigan's daily 3-digit.

I calculate from Midday to next Midday and from Evening to next Evening

Midday
0-Digit Repeats  43/100=43.0%
1-Digit Repeats  46/100=46.0%
2-Digit Repeats  10/100=10.0%
3-Digit Repeat      1/10= 1.0%

Evening
0-Digit Repeats  41/100=41.0%
1-Digit Repeats  49/100=49.0%
2-Digit Repeats  10/100=10.0%
3-Digit Repeat      0/10= 0.0%

So far pretty much the same stats from Midday & Evening.

Go Detroit Red Wings!!!!!!

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After 1st 100 Draws From Jan. 1, 2008-April 10, 2008 Midday & Evening in Michigan's daily 3-digit.

I calculate from Midday to next Midday and from Evening to next Evening

Midday
0-Digit Repeats  43/100=43.0%
1-Digit Repeats  46/100=46.0%
2-Digit Repeats  10/100=10.0%
3-Digit Repeat      1/10= 1.0%

Evening
0-Digit Repeats  41/100=41.0%
1-Digit Repeats  49/100=49.0%
2-Digit Repeats  10/100=10.0%
3-Digit Repeat      0/10= 0.0%

So far pretty much the same stats from Midday & Evening.

The overall repeat possibility percentage, as I've just calculated, should be about 60.75%, and your observations fall within that statistical range. Here's why:

In any drawing with 1,000 possibilities, a two-day sample will entail 1,000,000 possibilities.

In a Pick 3 drawing there are 720 possibilities without a repeating number, 270 doubles and 10 triples.

 Dist NR NRTL R RTL S 720 343 246960 657 473040 D 270 512 138240 488 131760 T 10 729 7290 271 2710 TL 1584 392490 1416 607510

NR - Number of possibilities with no repeats for each of those combinations.
R - Number of possibilities with repeated numbers for each of those combination.

Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there.....

Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

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