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Posted: October 2, 2008, 10:27 am - IP Logged

You are cheating yourself by buying a ticket with the Jackpot vampires .

Look at how many times your  state actually wins the PB or MM jackpot.

Using Michigan as an example you can see that we get the jackpot here once per year on average(sometimes 0, sometimes 1, sometimes 2).

Since the Multi-State game started here in Michigan, there have been smaller jackpots on the in-state game with jackpot winners way fewer and way further between.

Take last year (2007) for example.  Michigan did not have any Megamillion jackpots come our way.  We did have 2 (yes only 2)  jackpot winners on the in-state Michigan classic game for the whole year!

We traded 10 to 20 decent sized jackpots per year before the jackpot vampire (Multi-state Game) for no more than up to 6 or maybe 7 after the jackpot vampire (with some years as low as 2 jackpots).

Not only that but the jackpot wins in Michigan are now concentrated in Southeast Michigan with a small amount in Southwest Michigan.  Before the Jackpot Vampires struck, the jackpots were won all over the state.

    Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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    Posted: October 2, 2008, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

    A lot of people think that way because they're not the one who won the jackpot. Oh, it wasn't them who won, so they're getting cheated. No. You're not getting cheated. You don't realize what the lottery is. It's your chance to pay $1(more if you want though) and become rich and be set for the rest of your life. So although winning the lottery may be the hardest way to become rich, it's also the cheapest. Think about. Pay $1, match all the numbers, boom you're rich. If you think you're getting cheated, then why don't you stop playing the lottery, take any special skills you have and put them into starting your own business?

    Gonna win.Big Smile

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      Messy Michigan
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      Posted: October 2, 2008, 3:25 pm - IP Logged

      You are cheating yourself by buying a ticket with the Jackpot vampires .

      Look at how many times your  state actually wins the PB or MM jackpot.

      Using Michigan as an example you can see that we get the jackpot here once per year on average(sometimes 0, sometimes 1, sometimes 2).

      Since the Multi-State game started here in Michigan, there have been smaller jackpots on the in-state game with jackpot winners way fewer and way further between.

      Take last year (2007) for example.  Michigan did not have any Megamillion jackpots come our way.  We did have 2 (yes only 2)  jackpot winners on the in-state Michigan classic game for the whole year!

      We traded 10 to 20 decent sized jackpots per year before the jackpot vampire (Multi-state Game) for no more than up to 6 or maybe 7 after the jackpot vampire (with some years as low as 2 jackpots).

      Not only that but the jackpot wins in Michigan are now concentrated in Southeast Michigan with a small amount in Southwest Michigan.  Before the Jackpot Vampires struck, the jackpots were won all over the state.

      I Agree! I have also noticed with the raffle tickets no one seems to win from my area so I stopped buying unless I can get to the suburbs. MI is the Jackpot Vampire in all of there games. Lottery is just the poor man taxes. I think that it was started by the dem party and once again the rep still get the better kickback. LOL

      Remember we are the decisions that we make, please take the time to educate.Stooges

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        Posted: October 3, 2008, 1:46 am - IP Logged

        You want some whine with your cheese ?

        Michigan is not alone, there are SEVERAL states where winners are not chosen for extended periods of time, these things go in cycles, and it's also called RANDOM, or at least the Powerball is.  Less sparse states win about as often as heavily populated states: PA has a ton of people in it, but I don't recall a jackpot winner lately, but a few years ago thay had 2 per year (or was it 4 ?) two years in a row.

        Random.

        And extreme odds.

        You obviously know the odds, if I was you, I would not play.

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          Posted: October 3, 2008, 6:48 am - IP Logged

          2007

           

          43 lottery States  5+15+0  Jackpot  5+0  Total
          name  HitsHits  $$$  $$$  $$$
          * New Jersey2.2553$371,000,000  $13,250,000  $384,250,000
          * Texas2.2555$330,500,000  $13,750,000  $344,250,000
          Indiana123$314,000,000  $4,600,000  $318,600,000
          Missouri125$254,000,000  $5,000,000  $259,000,000
          * Georgia0.553$195,000,000  $13,250,000  $208,250,000
          New York2111$180,000,000  $27,750,000  $207,750,000
          California2117$172,000,000  $29,250,000  $201,250,000
          Oregon118$183,000,000  $3,600,000  $186,600,000
          Rhode Island111$155,000,000  $2,200,000  $157,200,000
          * Virginia1.2541$126,500,000  $10,250,000  $136,750,000
          * Maryland1.2520$108,500,000  $5,000,000  $113,500,000
          Oklahoma123$105,800,000  $4,600,000  $110,400,000
          Kentucky218$94,000,000  $3,600,000  $97,600,000
          *Illinois0.543$81,500,000  $10,750,000  $92,250,000
          Wisconsin222$70,000,000  $4,400,000  $74,400,000
          New Hampshire112$68,000,000  $2,400,000  $70,400,000
          New Mexico116$63,000,000  $3,200,000  $66,200,000
          Colorado120$20,000,000  $4,000,000  $24,000,000
          Arizona136$15,000,000  $7,200,000  $22,200,000
          Louisana130$15,000,000  $6,000,000  $21,000,000
          S. Carolina125$15,000,000  $5,000,000  $20,000,000
          Connecticut117$15,000,000  $3,400,000  $18,400,000
          Pennsylvania-80$0  $16,000,000  $16,000,000
          Michigan-52$0  $13,000,000  $13,000,000
          Ohio-51$0  $12,750,000  $12,750,000
          N. Carolina-57$0  $11,400,000  $11,400,000
          Massachusetts-33$0  $8,250,000  $8,250,000
          Tennessee-32$0  $6,400,000  $6,400,000
          Minnesota-25$0  $5,000,000  $5,000,000
          Washington-17$0  $4,250,000  $4,250,000
          Iowa-17$0  $3,400,000  $3,400,000
          Nebraska-11$0  $2,200,000  $2,200,000
          Kansas  -11$0  $2,200,000  $2,200,000
          Idaho-9$0  $1,800,000  $1,800,000
          West Virginia-8$0  $1,600,000  $1,600,000
          Delaware-7$0  $1,400,000  $1,400,000
          Maine-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
          Washington DC-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
          Montana-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
          S Dakota-4$0  $800,000  $800,000
          Vermont-3$0  $600,000  $600,000
          N Dakota-2$0  $400,000  $400,000
          US Virgin Island---  -  -
                             
          totals  281223  $2,951,800,000  $276,900,000  $3,228,700,000
          avg per draw  0.15.9

           

          2008

           

            43 lottery States  5+15+0  Jackpot  5+0  Total
            name  HitsHits  $$$  $$$  $$$
            Georgia236$405,000,000  $9,000,000  $414,000,000
            West Virginia19$275,000,000  $1,800,000  $276,800,000
            Ohio229$211,000,000  $7,250,000  $218,250,000
            New Mexico19$200,000,000  $1,800,000  $201,800,000
            Michigan232$191,000,000  $8,000,000  $199,000,000
            Minnesota118$180,000,000  $3,600,000  $183,600,000
            New Jersey165$125,000,000  $16,250,000  $141,250,000
            Louisana228$128,000,000  $5,600,000  $133,600,000
            Pennsylvania169$86,000,000  $13,800,000  $99,800,000
            Oklahoma123$85,000,000  $4,600,000  $89,600,000
            Texas150$33,000,000  $12,500,000  $45,500,000
            S. Carolina123$35,000,000  $4,600,000  $39,600,000
            Maryland127$24,000,000  $6,750,000  $30,750,000
            * New York0.583$8,500,000  $20,750,000  $29,250,000
            * Illinois0.542$8,500,000  $10,500,000  $19,000,000
            California-(parmutl)-80$0  $15,374,374  $15,374,374
            Virginia-42$0  $10,500,000  $10,500,000
            N. Carolina-44$0  $8,800,000  $8,800,000
            Massachusetts-31$0  $7,750,000  $7,750,000
            Missouri-31$0  $6,200,000  $6,200,000
            Indiana-25$0  $5,000,000  $5,000,000
            Kentucky-24$0  $4,800,000  $4,800,000
            Arizona-19$0  $3,800,000  $3,800,000
            Connecticut-18$0  $3,600,000  $3,600,000
            Tennessee-18$0  $3,600,000  $3,600,000
            Washington-12$0  $3,000,000  $3,000,000
            Wisconsin-15$0  $3,000,000  $3,000,000
            Colorado-15$0  $3,000,000  $3,000,000
            Rhode Island-13$0  $2,600,000  $2,600,000
            Oregon-12$0  $2,400,000  $2,400,000
            New Hampshire-12$0  $2,400,000  $2,400,000
            Iowa-11$0  $2,200,000  $2,200,000
            Washington DC-10$0  $2,000,000  $2,000,000
            Idaho-10$0  $2,000,000  $2,000,000
            Nebraska-8$0  $1,600,000  $1,600,000
            Maine-6$0  $1,200,000  $1,200,000
            Delaware-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
            Montana-5$0  $1,000,000  $1,000,000
            Kansas  -4$0  $800,000  $800,000
            N Dakota-3$0  $600,000  $600,000
            Vermont-2$0  $400,000  $400,000
            S Dakota-2$0  $400,000  $400,000
            US Virgin Island-0$0  $0  $0
                       
            totals  181020  $1,995,000,000  $225,824,374  $2,220,824,374

           

           

           

          43 lottery StatesPop  Estimated
          nameRank  Population
          California1  33,871,648
          Texas2  20,851,820
          New York3  18,976,457
          Illinois5  12,419,293
          Pennsylvania6  12,281,054
          Ohio7  11,353,140
          Michigan8  9,938,444
          New Jersey9  8,414,350
          Georgia10  8,186,453
          N. Carolina11  8,049,313
          Massachusetts13  6,349,097
          Indiana14  6,080,485
          Washington15  5,894,121
          Tennessee16  5,689,283
          Missouri17  5,595,211
          Wisconsin18  5,363,675
          Maryland19  5,296,486
          Arizona20  5,130,632
          Minnesota21  4,919,479
          Louisana22  4,468,976
          Colorado24  4,301,261
          Kentucky25  4,041,769
          S. Carolina26  4,012,012
          Oklahoma27  3,450,654
          Oregon28  3,421,399
          Connecticut29  3,405,565
          Iowa30  2,926,324
          Kansas  32  2,688,418
          New Mexico36  1,819,046
          Virginia37  1,808,344
          West Virginia37  1,808,344
          Nebraska38  1,711,263
          Idaho39  1,293,953
          Maine40  1,274,923
          New Hampshire41  1,235,786
          Rhode Island43  1,048,319
          Montana44  902,195
          Delaware45  783,600
          S Dakota46  754,844
          N Dakota47  642,200
          Vermont49  608,827
          Washington DC50  572,059
          US Virgin Island-  108,605

          "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

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            Winning Tickets From 10/3/2008 Were Sold:
            Match 5 + 1 Jackpot Winner: Michigan(1).

            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

            Lep

            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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              Posted: October 4, 2008, 5:08 pm - IP Logged

              Yes, you are being cheated. Look at the odds. Give me a dollar and I will give you 1 chance out of 100+ millions to win the jackpot. That's like hitting a bullseye with a pistol from a football field, while the wind is at 15 miles an hour, with a tornado in the middle as a distraction. Ok, maybe its a bit too much but people don't understand what they are up agaisnt when playing the lotto.

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                Posted: October 4, 2008, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

                Some players do, some player's don't, but you can bet the person in Michigan who hit the jackpot last night is glad that they played despite the odds. Yup!

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: October 4, 2008, 6:12 pm - IP Logged

                  Yes, you are being cheated. Look at the odds. Give me a dollar and I will give you 1 chance out of 100+ millions to win the jackpot. That's like hitting a bullseye with a pistol from a football field, while the wind is at 15 miles an hour, with a tornado in the middle as a distraction. Ok, maybe its a bit too much but people don't understand what they are up agaisnt when playing the lotto.

                  How do you figure?  There's a jackpot created by millions of players buying tickets and contributing to it and the ones who matched the numbers selected randomly will share a potion of the accumulated wealth. 

                  There's no way everyone can share the wealth and get a potion of their money back or there would be no point in playing.  If you don't want to contributed to someone getting rich then you shouldn't play the lotteries because the odds are that the some one is not going to be you.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: October 4, 2008, 6:42 pm - IP Logged

                    Yes, you are being cheated. Look at the odds. Give me a dollar and I will give you 1 chance out of 100+ millions to win the jackpot. That's like hitting a bullseye with a pistol from a football field, while the wind is at 15 miles an hour, with a tornado in the middle as a distraction. Ok, maybe its a bit too much but people don't understand what they are up agaisnt when playing the lotto.

                    Why should winning millions of dollars be easy? Any lazy bum can spend $1 on a ticket and win millions of dollars. Heck, I remember reading a story about a child molester winning $57 million. The odds are that high for a reason. Winning the lottery means retirement to a lot of people. House paid off, bills paid off, vacations to anywhere in the world, expensive toys, the list goes on and on. If someone isn't going to make millions by working for it, then the odds they face should at least be extremely high; as they are now.

                    Gonna win.Big Smile


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                      Posted: October 4, 2008, 6:58 pm - IP Logged

                      I would love to put a issue in the newspaper about Tennessee Lottery look at the pay outs,either no one is playing or they can see what people are playing and change the computer.....

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                        Posted: October 4, 2008, 7:15 pm - IP Logged

                        Of course. What I wrote was sarcasm.

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                          Posted: October 4, 2008, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

                          By the way the numbers are posted, then it appears ONLY high-population states should win the Lottery, and sparse states should not.

                          I have no idea why anyone would even play the game unless you live in a top-10 populace state..(sic)

                          But that being said, it's 'no fair' a certain handful of numbers hit much more often than another handful of numbers...

                           

                          OH YEAH - I FORGOT - IT'S RANDOM !

                          DUH !

                          SILLY ME !!

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                            Posted: October 4, 2008, 9:30 pm - IP Logged

                            You want some whine with your cheese ?

                            Michigan is not alone, there are SEVERAL states where winners are not chosen for extended periods of time, these things go in cycles, and it's also called RANDOM, or at least the Powerball is.  Less sparse states win about as often as heavily populated states: PA has a ton of people in it, but I don't recall a jackpot winner lately, but a few years ago thay had 2 per year (or was it 4 ?) two years in a row.

                            Random.

                            And extreme odds.

                            You obviously know the odds, if I was you, I would not play.

                            Since the winner was from MI, I'm guessing he got some cheese with his wine after all?  Errrr.....well, someone did. Clown

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                              Well it works like this you buy a ticket you agree to all of the odds of that particular game.  Dont agree dont play.  I drive a truck and buy tickets for mm and pb for almost every draw, i play a system for each game.  Just cashed 13 winning tickets in for pb $49.00.  Oh by the way money invested for 2 draws was $26.00, thirteen per draw.  Reinvested the $26.00 and covered 2 more pb draws.  May not ever win the jp but will try and at least have a chance.  God bless and good luck.