Tx United States Member #4570 May 4, 2004 5180 Posts Offline

Posted: November 3, 2008, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

Hi!

Long ago a few times I reduced from the total pool of 1000 straight numbers, but only a very few times.

But reduced them to too many straight numbers.

The best of those few predictions reduced the numbers to about 80 singles and about the same numbers of doubles.

So at about 160 to maybe about 170 numbers, I don't remember for sure as you know in that one prediction I got the winning number 5 times out of the total of 6, 1 time straight and 4 times boxed.

It used mostly pairs reduction together with some other filters.

I completely forgot exactly how it was done as I never expected to win with that prediction, it was only a test same as everyone of the predictions that I ever make, they are all tests and I don't expect to win with them even if often I did win.

Was it luck? Maybe a little. but mostly was prediction technique and the Filters Engine that I designed and that Ricky made, I made it (The prediction) to show what filters and such a filters engine could do.

Now finally maybe I will start to work on Numbers Groups Filters, that is what we do also with "Regular" filters, but the difference is that the new groups won't have or have to have digits and or numbers in them that have any kind of similar or equal patterns.

They will be Numbers Matrix (Matrices) Filters, but I probably will call them Numbers Matrices Groups Filters or NMGF for short, I think that they might be just as effective or even more than regular filters, but could be used with regular filtration methods if a person wants to, the hard part is not so much the filtration itself which can easily already be done, but that the stats will have to be done by hand, unless somebody automates them, such filters might be better and also more flexible than the regular filters.

It will take awhile to study and develop a working such system and then to test it.

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I could not develop a system that would produce exactly 100 straights.

I am right now thinking about how I will divide the numbers, straight and or boxed into their matrices-groups.

Tx United States Member #4570 May 4, 2004 5180 Posts Offline

Posted: November 3, 2008, 2:41 pm - IP Logged

John

I can't do Math myself, but with the 120 singles you have a 20% expected chance, but the singles only account for 72% of the expected numbers-time, so that would reduce the 20%.

Boxed Singles 120:

Maybe 20 X 0,72 = 14.4%

I don't know any Math, so that might not be right.

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Boxed Doubles :90

Doubles: 30 X .27 = 8,1% Is that right? Probably not as I don't know any Math!

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All that is just by chance!

But you would be playing 120 and or 90 picks.

Of course, somebody like me might do better than that.

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500 / 120 = 4.16 = At 120 picks per each draw must win at least 1 out of every 4 draws to come out even.

500 / 90 = 5.5 = At 90 picks per draw must win 1 time every 5.5 draws to come out even.

South Carolina United States Member #6 November 4, 2001 8790 Posts Offline

Posted: November 3, 2008, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on November 3, 2008

John

I can't do Math myself, but with the 120 singles you have a 20% expected chance, but the singles only account for 72% of the expected numbers-time, so that would reduce the 20%.

Boxed Singles 120:

Maybe 20 X 0,72 = 14.4%

I don't know any Math, so that might not be right.

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Boxed Doubles :90

Doubles: 30 X .27 = 8,1% Is that right? Probably not as I don't know any Math!

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All that is just by chance!

But you would be playing 120 and or 90 picks.

Of course, somebody like me might do better than that.

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500 / 120 = 4.16 = At 120 picks per each draw must win at least 1 out of every 4 draws to come out even.

500 / 90 = 5.5 = At 90 picks per draw must win 1 time every 5.5 draws to come out even.

Is that right or not?

500 / 120 = 4.16 = At 120 picks per each draw must win at least 1 out of every 4 draws to come out even.

500 / 90 = 5.5 = At 90 picks per draw must win 1 time every 5.5 draws to come out even.

Is that right or not?

I am not that good in math either but figuring the dollar math to the cost and payout those figures look correct.

what I had in my paste and copy was 20 draws with 4 str8s which figures about 20% exact hit ratio. That is having the correct number with the correct str8 position using 56 numbers.

I do not know what my hit ratio for the abc method would be If I used all 120 no match . Like you said it would need to be 1 in 4 or I lose money.

Tx United States Member #4570 May 4, 2004 5180 Posts Offline

Posted: November 3, 2008, 5:11 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on November 3, 2008

500 / 120 = 4.16 = At 120 picks per each draw must win at least 1 out of every 4 draws to come out even.

500 / 90 = 5.5 = At 90 picks per draw must win 1 time every 5.5 draws to come out even.

Is that right or not?

I am not that good in math either but figuring the dollar math to the cost and payout those figures look correct.

what I had in my paste and copy was 20 draws with 4 str8s which figures about 20% exact hit ratio. That is having the correct number with the correct str8 position using 56 numbers.

I do not know what my hit ratio for the abc method would be If I used all 120 no match . Like you said it would need to be 1 in 4 or I lose money.

Win D

I am sorry to HighJack your thread like this!

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Thanks, John!

Yes the ABC or Lowest-MIddle-Highest filter is one way to go, with singles it gives you 1 chance out of 6, 72% of the time, just by random chance, which can be increased some by filter technique.

The difference between boxed and straight is of course the LMH sequences, that is, the right LMH sequence.

Dallas, TX United States Member #60284 April 12, 2008 3856 Posts Offline

Posted: November 3, 2008, 8:35 pm - IP Logged

Don't forget that each single straight has different placements (Tiers) in itself.

For pick 3, say the set of 123 has 6 different placements; 123, 132, 213, 231, 312, 321.

For pick 4 one single set 1234 has 12 different placements within.

To get a straight would be in exact order, so after picking the right set say 1234, you still need to guess the placement of which the outcome will be, from 1-12.

Right now I am tracking the tiers on a set of numbers to determind the common in pick 3, right now it is showing tier 3 (213) has most hits for single straight for All States play.

Tx United States Member #4570 May 4, 2004 5180 Posts Offline

Posted: November 3, 2008, 10:24 pm - IP Logged

You are right, there are 6 straight or box sets, the default box set is 123, that is LMH = Lowest-MIddle-Highest.

The winning pick 3 number will come out as 1 of the 6 box (Straight) sets.

When singles come out you have a 1/6 chance and when doubles come out you have 1/3 chance, that a particular boxed-straight 90 or 120 number set will come out.

When playing only boxed it does not matter at all which boxed set is used.

joplin United States Member #45299 August 17, 2006 151 Posts Offline

Posted: November 6, 2008, 12:12 am - IP Logged

I work in a convenience store. There's this man that plays pick 3 both mid and eve play. He plays straight only, fifty cents. That pays $300. if he hits. He's been playing this for many years and never miss a day. He only plays q/p.

According to two employee's that have worked there, one for 14 yrs and the other for 9 yrs. Most the time he wins 1 to 3 times a week. This one clerk said he won $300. every day for a entire month. There's also been times he would win 5 or 6 times in one day, because the q/p 's often have repeat numbers.

Maybe this guy is just lucky. I don't know. I talk to him each day, when I get a chance. He said, last year he made over a $100,000. playing p/3.

I think he felt insulted, because I just find it hard to believe, that he can make that kind of money. He said a guy would have to be crazy to play to play like he does if he wasn't making money, and he wasn't crazy.

United States Member #45970 September 1, 2006 4763 Posts Offline

Posted: November 6, 2008, 12:14 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by gsc5 on November 6, 2008

I work in a convenience store. There's this man that plays pick 3 both mid and eve play. He plays straight only, fifty cents. That pays $300. if he hits. He's been playing this for many years and never miss a day. He only plays q/p.

According to two employee's that have worked there, one for 14 yrs and the other for 9 yrs. Most the time he wins 1 to 3 times a week. This one clerk said he won $300. every day for a entire month. There's also been times he would win 5 or 6 times in one day, because the q/p 's often have repeat numbers.

Maybe this guy is just lucky. I don't know. I talk to him each day, when I get a chance. He said, last year he made over a $100,000. playing p/3.

I think he felt insulted, because I just find it hard to believe, that he can make that kind of money. He said a guy would have to be crazy to play to play like he does if he wasn't making money, and he wasn't crazy.

Have any of you ever tried something like this?

How many qp's is he buying each day? In order to hit that often, he must be spending a couple hundred a day?

United States Member #28409 December 15, 2005 1198 Posts Offline

Posted: November 6, 2008, 1:20 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by gsc5 on November 6, 2008

I work in a convenience store. There's this man that plays pick 3 both mid and eve play. He plays straight only, fifty cents. That pays $300. if he hits. He's been playing this for many years and never miss a day. He only plays q/p.

According to two employee's that have worked there, one for 14 yrs and the other for 9 yrs. Most the time he wins 1 to 3 times a week. This one clerk said he won $300. every day for a entire month. There's also been times he would win 5 or 6 times in one day, because the q/p 's often have repeat numbers.

Maybe this guy is just lucky. I don't know. I talk to him each day, when I get a chance. He said, last year he made over a $100,000. playing p/3.

I think he felt insulted, because I just find it hard to believe, that he can make that kind of money. He said a guy would have to be crazy to play to play like he does if he wasn't making money, and he wasn't crazy.

Have any of you ever tried something like this?

what time of the day was he coming in to buy them? The same time every day? Did he do anything odd or out of the ordinary?