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# \$\$ Let's Win Georgia Fantasy 5!! \$\$

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Kunming
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Excellent! Whatever gets you a J.P. :-). Another thing that is a constant is adjacent numbers which you will find comes out a whole lot.  That's why I wanted to know the pairs that fall with the Primary set and Secondary numbers. I betcha  a lot of the pair are consecutives.

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I noticed something after constructing the sheet. There are actually 3 sets of numbers. Prime, Secondary, and the new one which I call it "Black Sheep" (the remaining numbers, in black).

When looking at Prime and Secondary for the 5 of 5, on average there are 2 per month.

When looking at Secondary and Black Sheep for 5 of 5, on average there are 2.5 per month.

When looking at Prime and Black Sheep for 5 of 5, on average there are 8.8 per month.

Primary: 03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 = 15 numbers total

Secondary: 12,15,18,21,24,27,28,37 = 8 numbers total

Black Sheep: 1,2,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,31,32,34,45,38 = 16 numbers total

To get the most jackpot hits per month Prime and Black Sheep offers the most. These two sets made up of 31 numbers, that's quite a lot of numbers to wheel. However, since the jackpot are governed by these three set of numbers (Primary, Secondary, and Black Sheep), we are limited on the amount of chances for the jackpot by their appearence together in two sets (Prime + Secondary, or Prime + Black Sheep, or Secondary+ Black Sheep).When playing the lowest numbers total, which is Primary + Secondary, we are still limited by its produce of 5 of 5. With this set combo there's still 1 in 33,649 for 2 chances for jackpot per month (on average).

With the filtering system and combine of cold fusion we can get Primary and Black Sheep down to 23 numbers to wheel from. That will give us the same odd 1 in 33,649 for 8.8 chances for the jackpot per month. Since Primary and Secondary combo have lesser number than Primary and Black Sheep combo there isn't much room for reduction of numbers. While Primary and Black Sheep offer a bit more room for reduction.

Basically, we are trying to get better chance in jackpot wins with Primary and Black Sheet over other sets, and still play with the same winning odd.

I am going to look closely at Primary and Black Sheep, this is a combo that's best gives more jackpots per month knowing I have 8.8 chance per month worth spending money on. Now, the filtering system and cold fusion have to work for this to happen, so I'll be posting up some lines and throw at the next results to see what we get.

Any thoughts, guys?

Personally, I like to play full wheels. Even boiled down to 23 numbers would not be feasible. LOL. Its not like I have 33 grand just laying on the dresser. <grin> I have no faith in abbreviated wheels. With that said:

I think it would be difficult to narrow down 31 numbers <primary + black sheep> to relatively good amount of numbers to wheel on a full wheel. Money wise I max out at 9 numbers on a full wheel.

I think instead of using the "black sheep" numbers, prime* numbers <not the primary ones> would be a better choice. Its easier to narrow them down.

In Cali, the number 17 comes up a heck of a lot, with 23 following a close 2nd. Definitely 2 numbers I would use with the primary numbers. I think the prime numbers could also be tracked easier.

PRIME NUMBERS are numbers that are divisible by 2 numbers. 1 and itself. They are:

2   3   5   7  11  13  17  19  23  29  31  37  41

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Jackpotismine: We are in on a new experiment. Hehe. At least I am. The excel chart (original GA Fantasy 5) shows 50% return on consecutive numbers, so this will be in conserderation for filtering purposes.

Gary: GA and CA are two different beast. While Black Sheep and Prime works best for CA, Prime and Primary works best for GA. Here's this month's track:

Combo:

Prime: 2,5,7,11,17,31,37
Primary: 03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39

Total: 22 Numbers

Prime:  3,13,19,23,29,37
Black Sheep: 1,2,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

Total: 22 Numbers

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This month Prime + Primary produced 3 jackpots, that's using 22 numbers, which gives 1 in 26,334.

For GA, Prime + Primary Combo is better than:

- Primary + Secondary =
23 numbers, 1 in 33,649, gives 2 Jackpot per month (average).
- Secondary + Black Sheep = 24 numbers, 1 in 42,504
, gives 2.5 Jackpot per month (average).

This is a good subsitute for the above two combos for GA.

However, that's still leaves us with the maximum jackpot Prime + Primary produces per month. Still it have not yet beat Primary + Black Sheep Combo, with 8.8 Jackpots per month. No matter which combos we use, filtering for reduction with Cold Fusion is required to achieve a jackpot, at least in GA.

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Now that we have our range, and combo sets, it is time for some test numbers. For GA I am going with Primary + Black Sheep Combo, and filter them to get 10 lines. Stay tuned.

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Jackpotismine: We are in on a new experiment. Hehe. At least I am. The excel chart (original GA Fantasy 5) shows 50% return on consecutive numbers, so this will be in conserderation for filtering purposes.

Gary: GA and CA are two different beast. While Black Sheep and Prime works best for CA, Prime and Primary works best for GA. Here's this month's track:

Combo:

Prime: 2,5,7,11,17,31,37
Primary: 03,06,09,10,13,16,19,20,23,26,29,30,33,36,39

Total: 22 Numbers

Prime:  3,13,19,23,29,37
Black Sheep: 1,2,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

Total: 22 Numbers

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This month Prime + Primary produced 3 jackpots, that's using 22 numbers, which gives 1 in 26,334.

For GA, Prime + Primary Combo is better than:

- Primary + Secondary =
23 numbers, 1 in 33,649, gives 2 Jackpot per month (average).
- Secondary + Black Sheep = 24 numbers, 1 in 42,504
, gives 2.5 Jackpot per month (average).

This is a good subsitute for the above two combos for GA.

However, that's still leaves us with the maximum jackpot Prime + Primary produces per month. Still it have not yet beat Primary + Black Sheep Combo, with 8.8 Jackpots per month. No matter which combos we use, filtering for reduction with Cold Fusion is required to achieve a jackpot, at least in GA.

So, you think 8.8 is better than 3 jackpots, do ya. D'Oh. LOL. I agree. I didnt say that using prime instead of black sheep is better for calif. Just that the prime numbers might be easier to reduce down to a managable amount. I am still reeling for all the numbers and info I am trying to absorb these last couple wekes.

I know nothing about cold fusion, so everytime you say it, my mind goes blank, <no, I am not blonde> hehe. What exactly is cold fusion and how is it used with excel.

Gary

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Now that we have our range, and combo sets, it is time for some test numbers. For GA I am going with Primary + Black Sheep Combo, and filter them to get 10 lines. Stay tuned.

Anxiously waiting here to see how you do.

Gary

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Gary: You must have missed the demostration of "Cold Fusion" in the first few posts of the this thread.

"Cold Fusion" is based on cold numbers within the previous 10 draws. Numbers with zero hit. In GA 85% of the time the result contain 1 cold number from the previous 10 draws. This is very helpful for those getting  4 of 5 and needing 1 more number for completion, for the jackpot. Here in GA this is a common thing.

The current cold numbers are:

02     03     10     15     18     19     20     24     28     31     35

Taking these numbers and put them into the 4 mentioned groups; Prime, Primary, Secondary, and Black Sheep. Depending the combo one wish to play, the cold numbers are still there. For this demo purposes, I am using Primary + Black Sheep. So my cold numbers are:

Cold Primary: 3, 13,  19,  23,  29

Cold Black Sheep: 7, 11, 17, 31

Taking the available cold numbers within this combo, we will be using it and combine them with the remaining Primary & Black Sheep numbers. Each cold number per line. Currently we have 9 cold numbers in GA, so the last line will have no cold number to complete the 10 lines for test.

I am setting this up before filtering process. This is my range for tonight's (1/20/09) drawing.

Cold  +    Primary & Black Sheep Combo

3       +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

13     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

19     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

23     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

29     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

7       +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

11     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

17     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

31     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

Hehe

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This just reduced down from 31 numbers (Primary + Black Sheep) to 24 numbers withCold Fusion.

Each lines will have 1 in 42,504 with Cold Fusion technique, great reduction from 1in 169,911 from Primary + Black Sheep with non-Cold Fusion technique.

That's just the first step in filtering, now onward with the secondpart, which will reduce the 24 remaining Primary + Black Sheep numbersdown some more. Results in better odds, and a closer chance at thejackpot.

The second step in filtering is tricky, this I will need to look closely at theoriginal GA Fantasy 5 chart for furthering the filtering process...stay tuned! :D

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Gary: You must have missed the demostration of "Cold Fusion" in the first few posts of the this thread.

"Cold Fusion" is based on cold numbers within the previous 10 draws. Numbers with zero hit. In GA 85% of the time the result contain 1 cold number from the previous 10 draws. This is very helpful for those getting  4 of 5 and needing 1 more number for completion, for the jackpot. Here in GA this is a common thing.

The current cold numbers are:

02     03     10     15     18     19     20     24     28     31     35

Taking these numbers and put them into the 4 mentioned groups; Prime, Primary, Secondary, and Black Sheep. Depending the combo one wish to play, the cold numbers are still there. For this demo purposes, I am using Primary + Black Sheep. So my cold numbers are:

Cold Primary: 3, 13,  19,  23,  29

Cold Black Sheep: 7, 11, 17, 31

Taking the available cold numbers within this combo, we will be using it and combine them with the remaining Primary & Black Sheep numbers. Each cold number per line. Currently we have 9 cold numbers in GA, so the last line will have no cold number to complete the 10 lines for test.

I am setting this up before filtering process. This is my range for tonight's (1/20/09) drawing.

Cold  +    Primary & Black Sheep Combo

3       +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

13     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

19     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

23     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

29     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

7       +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

11     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

17     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

31     +    06,09,10,16,20,26,30,33,36,39 1,2,4,5,8,14,22,25,31,32,34,45,38

Hehe

I had a feeling that the cold fusion was the cold numbers fused in and not the cold fusion that is used in high tech web design. LOL. But wanted dto ask to make sure. I had read this whole thread once, but forgot about the explanation in the beginning.

So, your playing 24 numbers in each line before filtering. How are you going to wheel these? How many plays will they make? Got to watch those dollars. <smile>

Also, did you notice that ALl of you 9 cold numbers are all PRIME numbers. <onery grin>

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This just reduced down from 31 numbers (Primary + Black Sheep) to 24 numbers withCold Fusion.

Each lines will have 1 in 42,504 with Cold Fusion technique, great reduction from 1in 169,911 from Primary + Black Sheep with non-Cold Fusion technique.

That's just the first step in filtering, now onward with the secondpart, which will reduce the 24 remaining Primary + Black Sheep numbersdown some more. Results in better odds, and a closer chance at thejackpot.

The second step in filtering is tricky, this I will need to look closely at theoriginal GA Fantasy 5 chart for furthering the filtering process...stay tuned! :D

I am a late nighter. So, I will be tuned in for a while. <grin> That is a huge reduction. Are you filtering with excel or are you using a program.

Gary

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The current cold numbers are:

02     03     10     15     18     19     20     24     28     31     35

Cold Primary + Cold Black Sheep Combo

Prime:  03, 10, 19, 20
Black Sheep: 02, 31

I copy and paste from the wrong text file window. :P

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Corrections, for tonight's (1/20/09) drawing.

Cold  +    Primary & Black Sheep Combo

3       +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

10     +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

19     +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

20     +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

2       +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

3       +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

10     +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

19     +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

20     +    06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

2       +     06,09,13,16,23,26,29,30,33,36,39 1,4,5,7,8,11,14,17,22,25,32,34,45,38

Each line gives 26 numbers to wheel from, 1 cold per line.

Going to wheel them based on high low numbers, sum range, odd even, consecutive numbers, and number group (ABCD). Not doing a full wheel, that would produce a lot of numbers for considerations. I am doing a random wheel based on these range, to get 10 lines.

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AHA, Glad I mentioned the all prime cold nnumbers then. LOL.

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Question sorry for been so behind and i think i will remain behind...In like 4 days this thread skyrocketed from 9 or 10 to 17...I've been reading the whole thing but got lost in the process...Anyways don't mind me...

what i'll like from you all if you all are kind enough is some numbers to play for Fantasy5...Once you all are done working on the Chain Reaction experiment [if you all seen the movie..lol], can you all like post predictions/combinations on this same thread so that i can call my brother or sister in Georgia and tell them to play those numbers see if i win...Remember there are days and days of Fantasy5...

pumpi76

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Question sorry for been so behind and i think i will remain behind...In like 4 days this thread skyrocketed from 9 or 10 to 17...I've been reading the whole thing but got lost in the process...Anyways don't mind me...

what i'll like from you all if you all are kind enough is some numbers to play for Fantasy5...Once you all are done working on the Chain Reaction experiment [if you all seen the movie..lol], can you all like post predictions/combinations on this same thread so that i can call my brother or sister in Georgia and tell them to play those numbers see if i win...Remember there are days and days of Fantasy5...

pumpi76

Pumpi,

I dont think any of us are actually spending money on it yet. At least, I am not. We are working out the system. Well, actually Diamond is doing more than me. He has the spreadsheet skills. I am in Calif and I am working it out for my state. I post and chet here as I cant get people to talk much in Calif. LOL.

Right now they are just test numbers. I wouldnt bet any money yet.

Gary

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Last night's numbers were:

 01 05 11 13 30

The "zero"  trick is in effect so watch out for the "primary set" numbers.

Here are my picks for 1/20:

 10 06 27 29 30 10 06 24 27 28 10 06 23 26 27 10 06 21 24 25 10 06 20 23 24 10 06 19 21 22 10 06 18 20 21 10 06 16 19 20 10 06 15 18 19 10 06 13 16 17

Play to win!

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