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Posted: December 6, 2008, 8:21 pm - IP Logged

 

This chart is for GA eve. I see the pattern. Seeing Sep, Oct, and Nov as three months frame, so this time Dec coming in Sep is in the background, not included in the trio. The previous trio provide what to expect in a pattern, as there are more 2 doubles and 1 single than it is with 2 singles and 1 double, and all singles and doubles comes in 4 times each in the last trio (sep, oct, nov). With the new trio (oct, nov, and dec) I am expecting 4 - 6 all singles and double days.

The "T" represent tripples.

I am guessing a single would pop up tonight to break the previous 3 double days.

Hi diamond,

I have a few questions for you, Did you do you chart in excel, and if so did just go back a look at the numbers and determine if they were doubles or singles or did you write a small program using visual basic for excel?  I'm trying to do everything in excel and I have the mode but the ones that doesn't have a mode means its single so but the mode doesn't tell me if its is doubles or triple.  I guess i'm trying to find the simplest way to make an analysis.  If you or anyone else could help, I would greatly appreciate it!

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    Hi diamond,

    I have a few questions for you, Did you do you chart in excel, and if so did just go back a look at the numbers and determine if they were doubles or singles or did you write a small program using visual basic for excel?  I'm trying to do everything in excel and I have the mode but the ones that doesn't have a mode means its single so but the mode doesn't tell me if its is doubles or triple.  I guess i'm trying to find the simplest way to make an analysis.  If you or anyone else could help, I would greatly appreciate it!

    Hi Seachelle,

    Yes, the chart was done in Excel. There is no coding, only manual labor input after checking the result from here. I tend to make it very colorful, to help with the visual overview. I wish I knew someone with awesome coding skills, there are lots of ways to look at numbers.


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      Ok Thanks, Maybe you or someone else can help me out with this question. kinda off point but trying to calculate some odds.  Boxed numbers! Can you explain how they come up with 4,6,12,24 box? I got the 4 and 24 (at least I think I got it) but for the life of me can't get the 6 and 12 I used the ABCD to work it out on paper.  just trying to work out a way to combat the doubles thing and not spend a lot of money!

      this is for the 4 if I'm wrong someone please correct me!

      ABCD

      BACD

      BCAD

      BCDA

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        Some new observations on doubles: The two numbers paring up with the doubles are 8 instead of 10 numbers, because we are not including tripples. They only come in once a month if at all. So for an example, if we select number 1, and number 2 to pair up with doubles 00,11,22,33,44,55,66,77,88,99 we get;

        0012
        1112 <--- discard from play
        2212 <--- discard from play
        3312
        4412
        5512
        6612
        7712
        8812
        9912

        Ending up with 8 numbers to play instead of 10. The two numbers to pair with doubles usually ends up in the top 5 hot numbers. Taking the previous results within a month and complie hot and cold numbers from doubles, only record the two numbers not the doubles. 

         Looking at the cart you can see the hot and cold numbers within the time frame you want to look at, for me it's the last 30 days. Each pink "x" repsent a hit with the doubles for one draw (mid/eve). For an example; 0056 we would only record number 5 and number 6. Keeping midday and evening seperate.

        Look at evening for example, HOT; 1,9,7,4,0 and COLD; 8,3,5,2,6. Previous drawing showcase that there are lots of hits in hot numbers, if we stick to hot five numbers we will get lots of double hits. Double pays well, if we aim for it when a day that a double is expected, we can win.

        This observation helps narrowing it down to five numbers to select two numbers from. Selecting 2 numbers from 5 will give us 1 in 10.

        Playing a pair in retail stores will cost $4 for 2 numbers = 8 tickets (excluding tripples) for a chance at $200.

        Playing a pair online will cost $2 for 2 numbers = 8 tickets (excluding doubles) for a chance at $187.50.

        Looking at previous results for GA evening:

        Previous Results        Numbers       Hot Numbers Hit      Retail / Online Prize

        Fri, Dec 5, 2008        6-1-6-7     HOT; 1,9,7,4,0      $200/$187.5
        Thu, Dec 4, 2008      9-2-2-1     HOT; 1,9,7,4,0       $200/$187.5
        Wed, Dec 3, 2008      5-1-5-9      HOT; 1,9,7,4,0       $200/$187.5
        Tue, Dec 2, 2008      2-2-9-0       HOT; 1,9,7,4,0       $200/$187.5
        Mon, Dec 1, 2008      0-5-9-4      HOT; 1,9,7,4,0         $200/$187.5
        Sun, Nov 30, 2008     4-9-7-6
        Sat, Nov 29, 2008      6-1-0-6      HOT; 1,9,7,4,0        $200/$187.5
        Fri, Nov 28, 2008      8-9-3-8
        Thu, Nov 27, 2008      0-4-8-7
        Wed, Nov 26, 2008     2-7-5-4

        Seeing the previous results, there are 6 out of 10 draws contain 2 numbers from the HOT section.

        To cover all HOT numbers will total to be 80 numbers (2 numbers for doubles x 5 current hot numbers = 10 x 8 from doubles excluding tripples = 80).

        Retail: $40

        Online: $20

         

        This can be profitable, no need to predict the days that are double to play, we can play this every day and it will still make us money. This is an option, I'll monitor this along side with the other perspective of this game.

        Imagine that I did play the past 10 days, every day for $40 (retail), $20 (online):

        Retail: $40/day for 10 days, that's $400. Now look at the payout 6 days x $200 = $1,200 - $400 cost to play = $800 profits in 10 days x 3 (to get the total for the month) = $2,400 profits in a month!!

        Online: will be $20/day x 10 days = $200. Payout 6 days x $187.50 = $1,125 - $200 cost to play = $925 profits in 10 days x 3 (to get the total for the month = $2,775 profits in a month!!

        This option is still in closely observation, investigation, under witness protection. If there are 5 or more hits from HOT group within 10 days, I will consider playing this.

        This has evolve from 4 of 7 numbers for singles to 2 of 5 for doubles, and now to all 5 Hot numbers for double! :D

        Any questions?


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          OMG! GENIUS! Ok that makes so much sense!Big Smile Thanks so much. I think you just made me  and a lot of other folks wealthy! lol.  Again thanks

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            Ok Thanks, Maybe you or someone else can help me out with this question. kinda off point but trying to calculate some odds.  Boxed numbers! Can you explain how they come up with 4,6,12,24 box? I got the 4 and 24 (at least I think I got it) but for the life of me can't get the 6 and 12 I used the ABCD to work it out on paper.  just trying to work out a way to combat the doubles thing and not spend a lot of money!

            this is for the 4 if I'm wrong someone please correct me!

            ABCD

            BACD

            BCAD

            BCDA

            6-WAY BOX:
            2 identical pairs, in any order. (Odds--1:1,667)

            1122: 1122 / 1212 / 1221 / 2112 / 2121 / 2211

            -

            12-WAY BOX:
            2 identical digits, in any order. (Odds--1:833)                           

            1123: 1123 / 1132 / 1213 / 1231 /1312 / 1321 / 2113 / 2131 / 2311 / 3112 / 3121 / 3211

             

            :D

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              OMG! GENIUS! Ok that makes so much sense!Big Smile Thanks so much. I think you just made me  and a lot of other folks wealthy! lol.  Again thanks

              It should work with individual states, however, testing is always needed and gather up the HOT numbers from 30 previous results as starters. Then update the HOT set as new results arrived, keeping it fresh for new selections. :D


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                6-WAY BOX:
                2 identical pairs, in any order. (Odds--1:1,667)

                1122: 1122 / 1212 / 1221 / 2112 / 2121 / 2211

                -

                12-WAY BOX:
                2 identical digits, in any order. (Odds--1:833)                           

                1123: 1123 / 1132 / 1213 / 1231 /1312 / 1321 / 2113 / 2131 / 2311 / 3112 / 3121 / 3211

                 

                :D

                OOOhHHHH!   OKAY  Thanks!

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                  Corrections: 5 out of 10 days in stead of 6 out of 10 days.

                  Looking at previous results for GA evening:

                  Previous Results        Numbers       Hot Numbers Hit      Retail / Online Prize

                  Fri, Dec 5, 2008         6-1-6-7     HOT; 1,9,7,4,0      $200/$187.5
                  Thu, Dec 4, 2008       9-2-2-1     HOT; 1,9,7,4,0       $200/$187.5
                  Wed, Dec 3, 2008      5-1-5-9     HOT; 1,9,7,4,0       $200/$187.5
                  Tue, Dec 2, 2008       2-2-9-0      HOT; 1,9,7,4,0       $200/$187.5
                  Mon, Dec 1, 2008       0-5-9-4     
                  Sun, Nov 30, 2008     4-9-7-6
                  Sat, Nov 29, 2008      6-1-0-6    HOT; 1,9,7,4,0       $200/$187.5
                  Fri, Nov 28, 2008       8-9-3-8
                  Thu, Nov 27, 2008      0-4-8-7
                  Wed, Nov 26, 2008     2-7-5-4

                  Seeing the previous results, there are 5 out of 10 draws contain 2 numbers from the HOT section.

                  To cover all HOT numbers will total to be 80 numbers (2 numbers fordoubles x 5 current hot numbers = 10 x 8 from doubles excluding tripples = 80).

                  Retail: $40 / Online: $20

                  This can be profitable, no need to predict the days that are doubleto play, we can play this every day and it will still make us money. This is an option, I'll monitor this along side with the other perspective of this game.

                  Imagine that I did play the past 10 days, every day for $40 (retail), $20 (online):

                   

                  Retail: $40/day for 10 days,that's $400.

                  Now look at the payout for 5 days x $200 = $1,000 - $400 costto play = $600 profits in 10 days x 3 (to get the total for the month)= $1,800 profits in a month!!

                   

                  Online: will be $20/day x 10 days= $200.

                  Payout for 5 days x $187.50 = $937.50 - $200 cost to play = $737profits in 10 days x 3 (to get the total for the month = $2,212 profits in a month!!

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                    Kansas doesn't have a P4 but after looking at Missouri's P4 payout I want to start playing. The wheel you have I used it to play 2by2 (only won $3 and free tickets here and there) but now i am going to use this wheel for Missouri.

                    Steve Player has the same wheel but he used the letters which for me is better coz using the number wheel would confuzzle me

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                      could you pass along your excel spreadsheet for us to use. Thanks

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                        could you pass along your excel spreadsheet for us to use. Thanks

                        The new sheets are being worked on with codes. Will have them available soon. :)

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                          Kansas doesn't have a P4 but after looking at Missouri's P4 payout I want to start playing. The wheel you have I used it to play 2by2 (only won $3 and free tickets here and there) but now i am going to use this wheel for Missouri.

                          Steve Player has the same wheel but he used the letters which for me is better coz using the number wheel would confuzzle me

                          That's too bad Kansas don't have p4.

                          For wheeling I use excel sheet to do the work, all I have to do is punch in the numbers I want to wheel and ta-da! :D

                          Will have the sheet available for this once the coding is implimented for all sections.


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                            SeptemberoctoberNovemberDecember
                            1singledoublesinglesingle 
                            2singledoublesingledouble
                            3doubledoubledoublesingle
                            4doublesingledoublesingle
                            5singlesinglesingledouble
                            6doublesinglesingledouble
                            7doubledoublesinglesingle
                            8singlesinglesingle
                            9triplesinglesingle
                            10doubledoublesingle
                            11singledoubledouble
                            12singledoubledouble
                            13singledoublesingle
                            14doublesingletriple
                            15singledoublesingle
                            16doubledoubledouble
                            17doubledoubledouble
                            18singledoublesingle
                            19doublesinglesingle
                            20singledoubledouble
                            21singledoublesingle
                            22singledoublesingle
                            23singledoubledouble
                            24singledoublesingle
                            25singledoublesingle
                            26doublesingledouble
                            27singledoubletriple
                            28doubledoublesingle
                            29doublesinglesingle
                            30singledoublesingle
                            31single

                             

                            I just wanted to add to your idea!  This the table for SC EVE if you go back to the previous three months and lined them according to the numerical date you can see another pattern.  You can see that there is rearly a triple double or single on the same dayfor three months in a row and if so the same day in the next month should be the other. Most time if the two previous before the last has doubles and the next should be a single. then look at the pattern for that month and then decided on single or double.  So I posted my predictions for the next couple of days.  The chart may have some errors but I think you get the point.

                            I have to work on my predictions I was the opposite for saturday and sunday!Confused As for an excel spreadsheet I use it to keep track of the doubles and the numbers  and  I use the mode function to do that nothing fancy.

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                              I have to work on my predictions I was the opposite for saturday and sunday!Confused As for an excel spreadsheet I use it to keep track of the doubles and the numbers  and  I use the mode function to do that nothing fancy.

                              Predictions can be tricky at times. The human mind wants to match up, keeping it balance while the law of random simply bounce between the available outcome; single or double. hehe

                              We can put the history to use seeing how random behave and go for the highest percentage, because the odds already giving us a low percentage to win. It's fun to predict and get it right, hopefully the pick 4 double method explained earlier can eliminate predictions and still make profits. Of course with prediction on when to play and when not to play can also make one more profits, or missing out on it, it's a double edge swords.

                              When the sheets are ready I'll provide both the standard (no color) and fancy (my version) for all to use for their state.

                              :D