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# Pick 3 - That Special Sum one

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Been tracking All States Pick 3 - Eve for its SUM: 11 - 15. Why this range you may wonder? In Pick 3 for Singles there are 8 numbers in one set of sum after filtering out and keeping the numbers to be within 2 high 1 low (HHL), and 1 high 2 low  (HLL), and within these two sets of high and lows there are 2 even 1 odd (EEO), and 1 even 2 odds (EOO). 80% of the results from All States falls into it.

SUM 11    029 038 047 056 128 146 236 245
SUM 12     039 057 129 138 147 156 237 345
SUM 13     049 058 067 148 238 247 256 346
SUM 14    059 149 158 167 239 257 347 356
SUM 15     069 078 168 249 258 267 348 456

This may be helpful for those who play All States and is looking for BOX/STR hits. From the chart it shows thatSUM 12 & 14 dominates. This is the frames that All States numbers constantly making pitt stops. We'll be taking advantage of this. The numbers indicate how many of the numbers hit within the sum.

HOW TO READ THE CHART:

-  Pink  numbered box represents 2 or more BOX hits.

Blue  represents BOX & STR hits.

- "STR" indicate the total of all the sums BOX & STR hits.

- "ALL" indicate the total of all the sums. On average of 4 - 14 hits per day within the sums.

- Grey and Black bars running down the sides between the sums are rulers each 10 days. Makes it easy to count the days.

- Bar Graphs (on the right): Represents the hot numbers within the sum, 11 - 15. Red = Box,Blue = Box & STR.

HOW TO USE THE CHART:

- Pattern: Somedays one set of sum will have consecutive hits for a week before it dies out, resulting a 0 hit for one or few days then it resume itself. Even though sum 12 & 14 are hot they can be cold for a very short period of time and allowing other sums to catch up. From the total under each sum they are rather close, however sum 15 is a bit behind. When looking for pattern consider the followings:

• "Blackout" (zero hit): How often does the hot sum blackout for consecutively before it gets back in action?
• "ALL" is a good indicator of when to play, consider playing right after the low total from previous day. If yesterday total hits for all of the sums is 4, then consider playing today, 98% of the time it will be higher than 4. Having more hits for sum 11 - 15 allowing more chances for your selected numbers to hit.
• Red = Box: Hot and mild numbers hit constantly while cold numbers remain so for a long time, a week to few weeks. When it return, there tends to be few states holding the same cold numbers. Could be from Iowa & Illinois or Tri-States: Maine, Vermont, New Hamphire.
• Blue = Box & STR: Right now sum 12 holds the most STR hits. From the graphs on the left it shows how many days it skipped, and how many days it hits consecutively on each sum. There has been at least 1 STR hit 78% of the time each day, from one or more sums.

CONCLUSION:

Hope this helps those playing All States. Like playing double jump robes using this can help determind the right time to "jump" in and out with money. :D

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that is really interesting

does the same sum range work with doubles?

if it does, and you include them, would there be even less blackouts?

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Yes, the same sum range also work for doubles, there are less blackouts when including them. However, overall there has been more singles draws than doubles for All States. By having more of singles it allows more chance for Straight hits. That's what I monitor at the moment.

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Hopefully it will turn out that there are only 20 doubles or less

good work

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If you keep track of your sums digits you will notice that the majority of sums that come out every month in your state are between 11 thru 20.

So keeping track of them and play the hot and due sums are a good bet.

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Food for thought:  Most of you might know that there are 120 possible 3 digit combinations that can be written 6 different ways each (6x120=720 exacts).  There are 90 doubles combinations that can be written 3 different ways each....3x90=270.    With 10 Triples+270 Doubles+720 3-digits you get the 1000 EXACTS.

Since there are 3 times more 3-digit combinations then Pures, Doubles & Triples combined most of the time you can eliminate them from playing.  When you do that you will find of the possible 100 combinations left that 68 of the combinations have a Sum Total from 11-20.  There are 26 3-digit combinations that Sum Total 0-10 and 6 3-digit combinations that Sum Total 21+.

In this scenario you can see there are over twice as many 3-digit combinations that total 11-20 then there are in the combined number of Singles & Twenties at 32.   It's on that basis that I say the below group of digit combinations will play most of the time......68 of them.  These are what I concentrate on unless my charts indicate to me that either a Pures, Singles or Twenties is about to play....or whether there will be Doubles instead.  Triples are so remote to me that I rarely even give them consideration although I know they do play.  In one year in Texas they played less then .5% though <G>

11    12  13   14  15  16  17  18    19  20
056 156 067 167 186 187 386 567 856 857
038 318 085 185 087 367 098 387 487 956
416 057 418 356 096 385 467 918 496 938
407 093 436 095 456 916 485 936 298 497
218 417 409 437 438 097 287 495
236 435 256 491 267 457 296 297
209 237 238 257 285 493
245 291 247 293 249 295

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029, 038, 039, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058, 059, 067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089, 128, 129, 137, 138, 139, 146, 147, 148, 149, 156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 256, 257, 258, 259, 267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389, 456, 457, 458, 459, 467, 468, 469, 478, 479, 567, 568, 569, 578
119, 227, 228, 229, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 344, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449, 155, 255, 355, 455, 556, 557, 558, 559, 066, 166, 266, 366, 466, 566, 667, 668, 077, 177, 277, 377, 477, 577, 677, 088, 188, 288, 388, 488, 099, 199, 299

majority of sums that come out every month in your state are between 11 thru 20.

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 Posted: December 10, 2008, 4:58 pm - IP Logged

The 5 highest hitting sums in your state will return (after being hit) within 8 drawings 50 to 60% of the time. A lot of states will return a hit sum within 2 drawings 17-30% of the time. These are not combined drawings.  I have not checked those stats.

Don't Chase... Compare and Narrow

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 Posted: December 11, 2008, 8:47 am - IP Logged

I'm getting confused, the op refers to the range 11 to 15 due to the filtering for the odd/even parity as well as the hi/low.

Do these parities apply to Virginia consistently enough to reduce the range of plays to the 11 to 15 sum  range ? or do the 2 replies above mean that Virginia's sums outside of the 11-15 range tend to be heavier upward of sum 15 compared to lower than sum 11?

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I don't understand why we choose 11 or 15 or 20, when I worked it out on paper I ended up with the following:

sum    #of possibilities

8          45

9          55

10         63

11         69

12         73

13         75

14         75

15         73

16         69

17         63

18         55

19         45

total    760      (760 of 1000 = 76%)

so my question is about the fact that the equal opposite of 11 would be 16 would it not?  In other words there are 69 possibilites for sum 11 and there are 69 possibilities for sum 16.

So if we use sum 20 then we should extend the low end down to 7, because both have the sme number of possibilites, if we use 11, we should use 16 ? should we not?

Shouldn't we use this balanced method then?  I mean otherwise are we trying to say that lotteries everywhere always come up with sums that are averaging higher or lower than they should?

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 Posted: December 22, 2008, 5:48 pm - IP Logged

Sum 11 & 16 is different from one another, even though they share 9 single box, and 54 single straight numbers. We are not counting doubles and tripples, as the methods above we are aiming for box. If straight, then 9 x 6 (6-ways) = 54 single straights.

Sum 11 are made up of 2 high number and 1 low = HHL

Sum 16 are made up of 2 low number and 1 high = HLL

The majority of All States pick 3 eve results stays on the HHL side for singles. That's why I included sum 11 instead of 16. Also to narrow down the range to eliminate extra numbers to play, which in turn save in spending cost. Though, that was the original idea, and after the matrix have been giving Sum 11 a lot of attention in the previous drawings, it is switching over to sum 16. Considering the mid range of single numbers they are Sum 12 - 15 (each with 10 box numbers, 60 straight numbers), Sum 11 & 16 each with 9 box numbers, and 54 straight numbers.

Thanks for mentioning, while Sum 11 was hot majority I leave out sum 16. Now with this in mind, either play for sum 11 or 16, not both. The majority of numbers appear in the mid range 12 - 15 daily, few with lots of hits while 1 often have zero hit.

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029, 038, 039, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058, 059, 067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089, 128, 129, 137, 138, 139, 146, 147, 148, 149, 156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 256, 257, 258, 259, 267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389, 456, 457, 458, 459, 467, 468, 469, 478, 479, 567, 568, 569, 578
119, 227, 228, 229, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 344, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449, 155, 255, 355, 455, 556, 557, 558, 559, 066, 166, 266, 366, 466, 566, 667, 668, 077, 177, 277, 377, 477, 577, 677, 088, 188, 288, 388, 488, 099, 199, 299

majority of sums that come out every month in your state are between 11 thru 20.

Blackapple, do you have the same sum 11-20 for pick 4 numbers?

Thanks

fifilicia

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Blackapple, do you have the same sum 11-20 for pick 4 numbers?

Thanks

fifilicia

Blackapple, sorry also do you have the sum for 1 thru 10 and 12-25?

Thanks

Fifilicia

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Can anyone help with getting the sume of all pick 3 combinations from sum 1-10 and 21-27?

Thank you.

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Can anyone help with getting the sume of all pick 3 combinations from sum 1-10 and 21-27?

Thank you.

Fifilicia...

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Any leads for Michigan....Midday and evening

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