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TEST DRAW insider info for new Powerball. 17 & 7 are ON FIRE.

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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: January 14, 2009, 5:52 am - IP Logged

How did you even come across the Pre and Post (TEST) numbers

They're posted on the PB website.

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
   
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    Posted: January 14, 2009, 7:41 am - IP Logged

    They're posted on the PB website.

    Wow & Thanks, I didn't think they would. I bet I would of hit the test numbers lol

    If OBAMA'S The ANSWER

    How STUPID was the QUESTION?

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      Posted: January 15, 2009, 2:12 am - IP Logged

      1. You clearly don't remember much of what you might have learned in that college statistics course if you think that this one set of drawings provides any meaningful information.
      2. You don't know enough (or care enough) to figure out whether the results are perfectly normal, or slightly unlikely. If slightly unlikely, you don't know whether there are too many or too few repeats.
      3. You don't even seem to know what randomness is. I'll agree that we're completely unable to develop something that's perfectly random. For the sake of argument I'll even stipulate that the PB machines are dismal failures. That you say there is "no randomness" is absolutely ludicrous.

      I'm not going to say you're wrong about this not being a random distribution, but it's well within the bounds of normality. Since you don't mention anything at all about the one characteristic that  might suggest a departure from a purely random distribution I've got to assume that's not what leads you to your conclusion.

      For once, I agree with you on something.

      Well said.

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        Posted: January 15, 2009, 2:24 am - IP Logged

        I'm saying that there is no randomness.  Every number you, or a machine, could conceivably generate is not random.  It is merely the result of the physics of the universe playing out a certain way.  We just see those numbers as random because we believe we couldn't possibly predict them.

        For example, you might say that flipping a coin is random, but given a supercomputer, and all the exact data about how hard you are flipping it, the density of the air, the height from which it was flipped you would theoretically be able to predict how the coin would land.

        Just like if you had a powerful enough computer super computer, and all the exact measurements of the powerball machine, and it's dimensions, etc. you would theoretically be able to predict exactly which balls will land at what time.

        Now we don't have that, but we'll take what we can get.

        College statistics was quite a few years back, but there are formulas that determine what the chances are that a given set of results will occur from what is supposed to be a 'random' system.

        For example, those formulas would say that the chances of the powerball winning numbers being 01 02 03 04 05, with pb of 06 a few times in a row are so low that they are almost statistically refutable.  You might say, "well how can we know that's just not randomness?", but a statistician would say, "We can be 99.9999999999999999999999999999999% sure that something is not right here."

        Now I am not saying that something isn't right.  Powerball is running the most honest game it can, but NO ONE can generate random numbers.  All they can do is hope their machine is mixing the balls up enough so that the numbers appear random.  And the machine, by the looks of it, is not.

        Please explain the differences between randomness vs. predictability

        If something is not random, then it stands to reason it is predictable, no ?

        But if you don't have the tools at your disposal to make it predictable, then it is random, no ?

        You cannot say something it not random if YOU cannot predict the results beforehand, and that is especially so if nobody else has.

        Think of it this way - I KNOW I can go back in time, all I need is someone to make me a time machine so I can do it.  The fact that nobody has such a machine must mean I CAN'T go back in time, correct ? (For arguments' sake, I mean go back in time 1,000 years, not 30 years to the Disco Era).

         

        Coin flip - predictable, easily using the guidelines you have laid out.

        But 59 balls in a machine, rotating around, banging into each other, with fluctuations in air pressures, humidity, temperatures, voltages to the fans that blow the balls around, maybe the machine is not quite level today, etc. seems random to me, that, and the fact that we can go 2-3 months without a winner tells me it is random, or else folks a lot smarter than us would win it every time.

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          Posted: January 15, 2009, 1:55 pm - IP Logged

          They're posted on the PB website.

          I have searched high and low, plz post a linky.  Thanky. Hiding Behind Computer

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            Posted: January 15, 2009, 1:56 pm - IP Logged
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              Posted: January 15, 2009, 5:51 pm - IP Logged

              Thank you.

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                Posted: January 15, 2009, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

                YIPPEE !!!

                WOOHOO !!!

                You have found a system that GUARANTEES that TWO numbers MIGHT HIT !!!!

                Yowzers !!!

                Let me see now - what does two white balls hitting pay ??

                Oh yeah - NOTHING !!

                LOL

                 

                Guys, Gals, Mr. Davis - I have chewed TEST GAME DATA FOR THREE YEARS SOLID, A LOT LONGER THAN MOST ANYONE, and yes, there are TENDENCIES, but it's  1) still random, and 2) MIGHT get you ONE number - MAYBE.

                I have found a lot more tendencies in test game data than you either know or are sharing, and that has gotten me precisely ONE number once in awhile, and nobody can tell me that hitting this number was anything more than random LUCK.

                Anyone want my spreadsheet, let me know, I'd be happy to share what I have found, but I'm telling you, it's not worth the effort, which is why I gave up on this data - it didn't really solve anything.

                guesser:

                I resect U and enjoy UR POST>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!!!!

                BUTT, let's suppose this TEST was a real TEST???????????????????????

                I don't know BUT, there is ALWAY's a BUTT out DARE smarter and^^

                more crooked than U-R meeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!not say'n UR a CROOK!!!

                IF this GROOK can find a way 2 manage 2 BALL's>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                might not they FIND a WAY 2 manage D "BALL's">>>>>>>>>>>>

                REMEMBER:

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                HOW CAN D PUR PEOPLE SCAM SUM "MONEY" $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

                LOL

                PSYKOMO 

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                  Posted: January 16, 2009, 2:28 am - IP Logged

                  Psyko....

                  Riddle me this:

                  With all the 'data' we have available to us, why is it nobody has cracked 'the code' ?

                  Surely someobody must have (or not), because if someone had, we would have repeat winners, dontcha think ??

                  And what would be the point to fudging the numbers that come up ?

                  I can tell you for absolute fact that they don't know if a particular set of numbers has been played before the drawing, they are not that proactive on the numbers, not when sales are cut off 1  hour before the drawing, they can't get ALL that information fast enough to dink with ballsets.  And if they did, what is the point ?

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                    Posted: January 16, 2009, 2:32 am - IP Logged

                    BTW folks, I looked:  Number 07 is not hot by any means, 17 was - a week ago.  IF it is going to hit, I'd play it over the next 2 games, then I'd drop it. Now all you need is all the other numbers to go with it...

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                      Posted: January 16, 2009, 3:14 am - IP Logged

                      Psyko....

                      Riddle me this:

                      With all the 'data' we have available to us, why is it nobody has cracked 'the code' ?

                      Surely someobody must have (or not), because if someone had, we would have repeat winners, dontcha think ??

                      And what would be the point to fudging the numbers that come up ?

                      I can tell you for absolute fact that they don't know if a particular set of numbers has been played before the drawing, they are not that proactive on the numbers, not when sales are cut off 1  hour before the drawing, they can't get ALL that information fast enough to dink with ballsets.  And if they did, what is the point ?

                      Interesting Thought - And If They Could Manipulate The Ballsets, what would be the point ?

                      Answer:  CONTROL

                      ->Control the size of the jackpot.
                      ->Control the number of winners.
                      ->Control where a winning ticket is sold.
                      ->Control the winning numbers - Has 1,2,3,4,5,6 ever been hit in any lottery worldwide? 

                       -> . . . . Anyone else have any ideas?

                       

                      Best Of Luck!


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                        Psyko....

                        Riddle me this:

                        With all the 'data' we have available to us, why is it nobody has cracked 'the code' ?

                        Surely someobody must have (or not), because if someone had, we would have repeat winners, dontcha think ??

                        And what would be the point to fudging the numbers that come up ?

                        I can tell you for absolute fact that they don't know if a particular set of numbers has been played before the drawing, they are not that proactive on the numbers, not when sales are cut off 1  hour before the drawing, they can't get ALL that information fast enough to dink with ballsets.  And if they did, what is the point ?

                        You are quite right, maybe it could be for the fact that everyone has been chassing numbers for years that prevents them from arriving at the answer, now if you go to my info in jackpot games you baybe surprised, and in my opinion it is the space that is formed that gives the answer, so you must search for the spaces that a number is going to come out in and not the number.

                        Bill....


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                          Interesting Thought - And If They Could Manipulate The Ballsets, what would be the point ?

                          Answer:  CONTROL

                          ->Control the size of the jackpot.
                          ->Control the number of winners.
                          ->Control where a winning ticket is sold.
                          ->Control the winning numbers - Has 1,2,3,4,5,6 ever been hit in any lottery worldwide? 

                           -> . . . . Anyone else have any ideas?

                           

                          Best Of Luck!

                          No there is no point LottoL, when you search try the same search in one of the days you may find a difference in the answers and I think you will If you have two days in that Lotto, just a thought as you get an intermix with the two days.

                          Lotts of luck.

                          Bill....

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                            I have used the numbers that have not been drawn in the last 2 draws of testing data. This includes pre, post, and draw. In Wednesdays draw, 4 numbers were in there. Now I need a good wheeling program to filter numbers to come up with some good choices.


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                              I have used the numbers that have not been drawn in the last 2 draws of testing data. This includes pre, post, and draw. In Wednesdays draw, 4 numbers were in there. Now I need a good wheeling program to filter numbers to come up with some good choices.

                              Hi, there is wheeling programs on this site somewhere I can't remember where at the mo but I think someone will guide you to it, check out thesite menu bar at the top of the page go through the references and you will find it.

                              I hope this helps you a bit....

                              Bill....