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Posted: February 25, 2009, 12:30 pm - IP Logged

Hello,

  I was wondering if anybody had any thoughts on when to put a sequence or range of numbers on the shelf and for how long.

 

For instance, if you were to hit 4/6 would you retire those 4 set of numbers for a specified period of time or would you continue to play the set

even if they came up the previous week(s). Cheers

 

Thanks in advance,

 

-K

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    Posted: February 25, 2009, 1:00 pm - IP Logged

    Hi, welcome to LP.

    For me, it really depends on the game, how often number(s) repeated, and how long it stays hot/cold. With the small number pool, numbers tends to repeat itself, as for larger pool will have less repeated numbers. Games with 25 numbers total will have a more repeated numbers within few days, than that of 56 numbers game.

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      Posted: February 25, 2009, 1:03 pm - IP Logged

      Hello,

        I was wondering if anybody had any thoughts on when to put a sequence or range of numbers on the shelf and for how long.

       

      For instance, if you were to hit 4/6 would you retire those 4 set of numbers for a specified period of time or would you continue to play the set

      even if they came up the previous week(s). Cheers

       

      Thanks in advance,

       

      -K

      Drawings are random and any number sequence can be drawn at any time.

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        Posted: February 25, 2009, 1:28 pm - IP Logged

        Hey thanks for the reply diamond/jap69, I should have probably noted that I was leaning towards the larger pool of numbers with 53+ no powerball ranges.

        I've been keeping a spreadsheet with the last 3 months drawings and while a 2 number sequence happens often i.e. 1/10 and 1/14 drawings the

        no5 and no6 positions were 40 41 consecutive it doesn't really happen too often.  When I won 4/6 I kinda thought to myself "what are the odds for 4 of these numbers turning up again" but

        then again it is truely random.  I tend to "retire" the numbers that have drawn in the above scenario for atleast the next draw but as I noted 1/10 1/14 posted 40 41 in the no 5 no 6 position

        in two consecutive draws.  I've been staring at this spreadsheet for days trying to come up with something semi-solid , how many times does a double diget come up first, how many times does

        a single diget follow a single diget, evens, odds, yadda blah.  I'm getting a headache :D

         

        Anyhow,  Thanks again, I've been a long time reader of the site.  You all have some very unique methods and I have gained a considerable amount of knowledge

        Thanks all for any post in this thread.

         

        -K

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          Posted: February 25, 2009, 2:15 pm - IP Logged

          Any number cannot truly be retired since it's still in the mix and can be drawn. Usually numbers repeat from drawing to drawing in the short term, but for all we know number sets can reoccur from years ago. One thing I've learned is in the pick 10 game it usually takes a whole year before a set of numbers are drawn. I'm still working on speeding up the process and filtering the trends.

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            Posted: February 25, 2009, 2:31 pm - IP Logged

            Thanks for the reply MM, greatly appreciate your thoughts on it. Cheers

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              Posted: February 25, 2009, 10:07 pm - IP Logged

              TypeThe thing about repeating numbers.I remember the time when someone had won $millions of dollars in the lottery.(MM).I bought those same numbers on the following game and I got three of those same numbers. You never know.

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                Posted: February 26, 2009, 6:15 pm - IP Logged

                Here's what's expected to happen with the Florida 6/53 and numbers repeating from the prior draw into the next.

                Zero repeat expected every 2.1 draws or 46.8% of the draws.

                One repeat expected every 2.5 draws or 40.1% of the draws.

                Two repeat expected every 8.6 draws or 11.7% of the draws.

                Three repeat expected every 70.8 draws or 1.4% of the draws.

                Four repeat expected every 1,415.8 draws or 0.1% of the draws.

                Five repeat expected every 81,409.9 draws or 0.0% of the draws.

                Now one might think it obvious a combination with 4 winning numbers has just become worthless because those 4 numbers are expected to repeat 1,415.8 draws from the last.  This is wrong thinking.

                Those four winning numbers are four of six numbers and six numbers contain 16 ways of forming a 4 number winning combination and your game has just produced one of them. 

                The next draw may contain one or two of those four winning numbers and the other two numbers in that combination to produce a three or four number winning combination. 

                There is no valid reason to put that particular combination on the shelf.

                BobP

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                  Posted: February 26, 2009, 6:59 pm - IP Logged

                  Hello,

                    I was wondering if anybody had any thoughts on when to put a sequence or range of numbers on the shelf and for how long.

                   

                  For instance, if you were to hit 4/6 would you retire those 4 set of numbers for a specified period of time or would you continue to play the set

                  even if they came up the previous week(s). Cheers

                   

                  Thanks in advance,

                   

                  -K

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                    Posted: February 26, 2009, 9:55 pm - IP Logged

                    Thanks guys all logical answers.  Back to my spreadsheet! Sulk Off