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Why look at 1000 to get a Straight ? When you only need to look at 317 ..

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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: May 15, 2009, 11:57 am - IP Logged

 I already posted several of the early winners up there last night using this system.... other late winners were :

AZ 583/468

NB 743/839 

 PR 312/183  

 

 Poor old AG.....and WC eve hit with  702/986  last night was a NO digit return.

 That was a win for all the "mean old ugly people" ... LOL   If they played the 35 boxes that come when no digits return .......or one or all of the 210 straights that result on those occations ..... they won.

 Hey.....ugly people got to eat too !

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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    Posted: May 17, 2009, 3:08 pm - IP Logged

    Last night Ga eve draw was 463 .....

     Although it is more than time for a double...... I went ahead as if it was not .....and with the single number reduction of Straights.

     317 ....plus several more filters later and we are now able to arrive at a playable group.

     

       

    024 035 037 042 046 048 084 086 136 147 149 174

    196 206 240 246 284 305 307 316 318 350 358 370

    396 530 604 620 631 640 642 680 682 714 730 741 749 794

    804 824 826 831 835 846 916 936 941 947 974

     

     

    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                           Win d    

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      Posted: May 17, 2009, 4:18 pm - IP Logged

      Last night Ga eve draw was 463 .....

       Although it is more than time for a double...... I went ahead as if it was not .....and with the single number reduction of Straights.

       317 ....plus several more filters later and we are now able to arrive at a playable group.

       

         

      024 035 037 042 046 048 084 086 136 147 149 174

      196 206 240 246 284 305 307 316 318 350 358 370

      396 530 604 620 631 640 642 680 682 714 730 741 749 794

      804 824 826 831 835 846 916 936 941 947 974

      Using that reduction tool flast7 really makes life simpler doesn't it!..hahahaWink

      Our main concern now is which side of the 50-50 to play on.

      We are all Lucky... just some of us don't realize it!

        Rakster's avatar - praying hands.jpg
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        Posted: May 17, 2009, 9:36 pm - IP Logged

        Using that reduction tool flast7 really makes life simpler doesn't it!..hahahaWink

        Our main concern now is which side of the 50-50 to play on.

        It hit again str8 with 123 sets ($25.75 cost online)

        972

        Subtracting the last 1000 draws works well as a reduction tool

        We are all Lucky... just some of us don't realize it!

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          Posted: May 18, 2009, 1:59 pm - IP Logged

                                  Peel it off ....one easy step at a time . Thumbs Up

          Why start off looking at1000 Pick 3 numbers each day for your STRAIGHT numbers to play ?

            Why start off with a 1000 straights ......when you can do it a lot easier with only 317 most of the time ?                       

                                                               OK then ......

           

            We already know that .......Most of the time at least one digit will repeat in the next draw right........ just not in the same postion as the last draw

          Well then ....if wewheel just the single numbers that have one of the three digits from the last draw each day ........and just use just those single numbers ....... it will ALWAYS.....give us just 527 straights back. 

                                                                       That was easy right ?

           Think about that one little step for a moment ......  Instantly reduce the 1000 straights by almost half by just following the first Step.

           

           Use only single numbers .......   leaves 720 singles

           Use only the numbers that contain at least one of the last draws digits.    leaves 527

           Use only the numbers that don't contain digits in the same postion as the last draw.   leaves  317  

           

                                                                                  Thats it !

            Now, start your plays from here...... 317 each day and hit it STRAIGHT most of the time ! 

           

           

           

                      If you use just one 50/50 filter at this point ...... say ...just the ODD sums for example...... we will cut the Straights down by half as much again  .....and bring our only straight considerations down by almost 85 % !

           

                   1000 ....down to 720 .....down to 527 .......down to 317 .......down to 158 straights !  

           

                Now thats even better .......  start your normal filters with 158 straights each day ......not 1000 . 

          Hello WinD

          I'm not understanding ? What are you using to get to these:

          step1  720

          step2 527

          step3 317

          I understand single # 123456 to get 720

          I understand using only numbers from last draw to get 520

          and  understand not using any of the # in same position

          thanks Eazy4now Smile

            WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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            Posted: May 18, 2009, 4:14 pm - IP Logged

            It looks like your saying that you understand all 3 steps....   I am using Lotsoft software to do it. The Short Sums section.....   The wheel  ........and positional filters there.

             

             

            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                   Win d    

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              Posted: May 18, 2009, 4:28 pm - IP Logged

              It looks like your saying that you understand all 3 steps....   I am using Lotsoft software to do it. The Short Sums section.....   The wheel  ........and positional filters there.

              I have a question for you about the ShortSums wheeler. I get a run-time error whenever I try to use it. I use the regular wheeler.

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                What is the BEST filter to use to seperate the 317 picks?

                I was using the last 1000 draws, but I am a little leary of that one even if it has hit 2 in a row.

                I checked the last 1000 draws and 372 of the 1000 only hit once in a 1000 draws... all the rest hit 2 and as many as 6 times in a 1000 draws!

                So whats the best filter to use?

                I like the filter of 1 or 2 evens or 1 or 2 lows but can't find that filter on lotsoft... or maybe didn't se it

                We are all Lucky... just some of us don't realize it!

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                  Posted: May 18, 2009, 7:54 pm - IP Logged

                  What is the BEST filter to use to seperate the 317 picks?

                  I was using the last 1000 draws, but I am a little leary of that one even if it has hit 2 in a row.

                  I checked the last 1000 draws and 372 of the 1000 only hit once in a 1000 draws... all the rest hit 2 and as many as 6 times in a 1000 draws!

                  So whats the best filter to use?

                  I like the filter of 1 or 2 evens or 1 or 2 lows but can't find that filter on lotsoft... or maybe didn't se it

                  When I was making predictions on the Pick 3 forum and elsewhere, I did not use what WinD calls 50-50 filters, because they have only 2 states or patterns.

                  I saw that predicting what will come is harder than predicting what won't come.

                  With a "2 Way Filter" it is exactly the same thing, so I could not use 50-50 filters.

                  Even filters that have 4 patterns are risky to use, those that have 5 or more are better to use and even then filter out only 1 of the patterns, otherwise risk failure.

                  I don't know if you understand what I am trying to say.

                  "Negative Prediction" is the name that I give to what used to be my technique when I was predicting years ago.

                  Seeing as how random is said to be unpredictable, I was not too bad at my technique (Negative Prediction).

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                    If enough people show interest maybe I can again start with filters posts and maybe even show some "hands on basics" of "Negative Prediction", but I feel like I wasted my time before, so there must be some real interest this time.

                    After all those many old posts and now it seems as if nobody saw or understood them.

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                      If enough people show interest maybe I can again start with filters posts and maybe even show some "hands on basics" of "Negative Prediction", but I feel like I wasted my time before, so there must be some real interest this time.

                      After all those many old posts and now it seems as if nobody saw or understood them.

                      I beleive a lot of people will be interested as this is an interesting concept... "Negitive Predictions"..

                      We are all Lucky... just some of us don't realize it!

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                        Posted: May 19, 2009, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

                        Sorry, but I have changed my mind about that, instead, I might test and re-test prediction programs and then post their predictions, also might try "Negative Prediction" and post in both ways, it is not easy to master prediction programs that have many variables-options to see what works best and or when-how, so it might be some time before that goes full speed, since I could not post for all the states I would have to pick only 1 or 2 states, if the predictions in time turn out O.K.-better then those who play online can play them if they want to.

                        I would have to pick 1 or 2 states that appear to work best and not just any state(s), that would also take testing-time.

                        It takes too long to make good predictions so it might be just 1 state and not 2.

                        We will see what happens, probably the pick 3 forum will be used, we will see.

                        Today some-time I will pick the first program and or method-technique to review and test, the preliminary tests will be private and not posted, if and when something is found to work at least in a fair way then I will start to post predictions.

                        First now I will take a quick look at some past draws from a few states and see which I like best and then pick one of them for testing when I am ready to.

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                          Posted: May 23, 2009, 8:29 am - IP Logged

                          OK ..... how can we knock down the Automatic 317 Method ?

                            Here's an idea ..... Fast and dirty.  From 317 all.... the way down to 128 straights in one easy stroke!

                                           If we think of each draw as a HORSE RACE with 3 Gates .

                                                                   Gate 1,2,3,  or  A,B,C,

                                       Each gate will represent one of the 3 digits...position 1,2,3 

                           

                                      We also know that 2 out of every 3 draws a digit returns to the next draw.

                                         That means ..... each time the winner will come form one of those 3 Gates right?

                                                          Well... the same horse can't win every day ?  Let's track it !

                                                       It's a really big filter ..... a simple filter ...... a 1 n 3 shot  each draw.

                                                                                                    But .....

                                Taking the 317 straights down by almost 200 (189) straights with one stroke is good too.

                                                                             128 Straights ....... better than 317 

                                                                  Dangerous 1 outta 3 filter.... but cheaper for sure. 

                                               It will be ...just like gambling or something.....we've done that before right?  LOL

                                                                                                               

                                                                                                   1, 2, 3  Filter

                           

                           

                          The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                        Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                        Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                 Win d    

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                            How did you decide 2 out of every 3 draws a digit returns to the next draw.?????????????????????????

                             

                            It's more like 59% of the time where I have checked but I am sure every game is different.

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                              Little aggressive with the ???????????????????????????????????  question marks there aren't you BJ !

                               It's more like 59% .........you say .   Hmmmm  how about that...?   

                              Thanks for your input !        We all appreciate how very much time and effort you must have spent coming up with that .......  correction ..... believe me.  Imagine my surprise.   

                               May I suggest you go straight to ......   that Search tool feature at the top of the page.     Go back through all the thousands of OLD POST generated by thousands of members over the years ...including myself . 

                               There has been countless facts, figures, and research done there on probability, math averages, game expectations, percentages etc...... Some of those post came to reasonable conclusions based on what many thought were good reasoning.  Based on just the few post you have made here over the last week.....all of these old post could really use your experienced auditing skills.

                               The entire Membership would appreciate your efforts BJ.....  you can bet that I sure would.  It shouldn't take you very long ......really.

                               

                               

                              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                     Win d