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I Always thought an 85% or 90% number reduction would be enough.

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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: August 30, 2009, 1:40 pm - IP Logged

 I always thought that an  85 or 90 % reduction in the 1000 numbers chart would be enough ........but NO !  

 

  I still just can't bring myself to play more than 100 straight numbers per game.....and thats a problem.

 

  After applying a 1000 draw time filter ..... and a positional digits filter the reduction is dramatic....but still just too many numbers to play on a regular basis.

 

  The 145 Straights left standing after an 85.3 % reduction of the 1000 potential straights.   

 

  Below are the straights left as potential numbers for the GA Midday P3 game today. The straight 645 was the winning number.

 

 014 025 031 032 037 043 045 046 047 063 065 073 074 078 082 083 086 093 097 098

234 236 240 245 247 263 264 265 280 296

302 305 307 308 320 345 346 348 360 362 370 380 390 394

 401 402 407 410 413 415 426 427 430 435 460 461 463 471 472 475 481 483 487 490 493 495 496

 503 510 516 524 534 536 541 542 561 568 570 580 584 586

604 607 610 613 618 625 627 630 638 642 645 647 648 670 671 674 675 680 682 683 685 691 697 698

701 702 704 705 706 708 710 716 730 741 742 743 746 748 794

801 803 806 807 814 824 830 841 843 846 861 864 870 874 896

901 903 914 924 926 941 943 945 961 963 968 984

 

  Even if we are able to further reduce the total numbers still standing at the end of all our filters ...... it can never have  more than a 72% success rate .....because of the Doubles.   

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

    WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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    Posted: August 30, 2009, 6:05 pm - IP Logged

     .....Here is an observation that deserves attention. It's along the same lines as the positional filters .

     

         Normally there are 263 Single number hits per year .....and around 98 or 99 double hits....plus 3 trips. (average)

          Using just the Single numbers during the year ...... going form just single to single numbers we can say the following:

              Tracking Single to Single numbers only.... you would be hard pressed to find 3 draws in a row of ZERO digit returns.

     

        Again...this does not take doubles into account at all....it is going from one single number to the next. Tracking Ga eve I found only one instance of this happening.

       With only one exception....  2 draws in a row ....of No digit returns was the max I found in the 266 singles in the last 365 draws. 

                 ???<---- 973  949  512  408  154  586  554  265  676  705  028  198

     

      As you can see above ....the 154 was a repeat of 586.

      The 154 did repeat from 586 

       The 408 did not repeat...nor the 512 ..     The 9,7,3, Must Repeat tonight....other wise it would be 3 non repeat singles in a row.

     Since this has only happened one other time in the last 266 single draws.... betting on a repeat digit or two here would be a good idea.   

         

                        

     

     

    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                           Win d    

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      Posted: August 30, 2009, 6:33 pm - IP Logged

      The deduction has sound reasoning in the math.

      If the previous day's drawing contained three different numbers there are 343 combinations that do not contain any of the three numbers and 657 combinationss that do.
      If the previous day's drawing contained a double there are 512 conbinations that do not contain any of the two numbers and 488 combinations that do.
      If the previous day's drawing was a triple there are 729 combinations that do not contain that number and 271 combinations that do.

      I'll leave it to you to do the math for the odds of this happening on consecutive days.....

      Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

      Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

       =^.^=

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        Posted: August 31, 2009, 2:15 pm - IP Logged

        Sorry to bother yall, but I was curious on how this 1000 draw time filter and  positional digits filter works. You can pm me if needed. 

        thanks very much.

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          Posted: August 31, 2009, 7:11 pm - IP Logged

          Hi,

             Even though you may have a high reduction method, the thing to look at is .....what is your percentage of error in using that reduction technique. If you have a 99.99% reduction method with 100% error.....well I think you know what I mean. This is the pitfall of alot of systems being posted at the LP.

             Just one persons opinion. *S*

          You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

          Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

            WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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            Posted: August 31, 2009, 8:06 pm - IP Logged

            ***  In an attempt to answer the new member's question above regarding the filters etc. .... here are some ruff examples.   

             

               Here are some CAStraight doubles ...... 99 OLD ones .  At least 3 years old. 

             On average.... one of these doubles should hit STRAIGHT on the Ca Eve Game.....about every 3rd. double that hits...... we're talkin' straights here.  

             Just for general informational purposes..... the 115 -288- 889 -336  have not hit in any form during that time.

             

            005, 006, 010, 020, 022, 055, 077, 080, 088, 099,

            112, 115, 118, 122, 133, 144, 151, 155, 161, 177, 188, 199,

            211, 223, 227, 229, 232, 233, 252, 272, 288, 292,

            330, 331, 335, 336, 339, 343, 363, 366, 373, 377, 383,

             447, 448, 464, 474, 484, 494,

            511, 515, 522, 544, 545, 552, 556, 558, 577, 585, 588, 599,

             606, 611, 616, 626, 633, 644, 655, 656, 660, 669, 688, 696,

            700, 737, 757, 776, 778, 779, 787, 799,

            818, 828, 878, 882, 883, 889, 898, 899,

            900, 911, 919, 933, 955, 977, 988, 990, 992, 994

             

                       Here are all the Straight Singles unhit in the last 3 years .......228 of them. 

             One of these should hit Straight around every 5th single drawn at night ....on average.

             

            013, 014, 017, 019, 028, 029, 032, 038, 041, 042, 045, 046, 048, 051, 052, 054, 057, 059, 062, 071, 072, 081, 082, 083, 084, 086, 089, 093, 098,

            104, 105, 107, 134, 136, 137, 148, 153, 154, 162, 163, 173, 174, 179, 182, 183, 184, 186, 193,

             203, 205, 207, 208, 210, 214, 218, 230, 231, 235, 238, 243, 247, 248, 254, 257, 258, 264, 268, 271, 276, 278, 284, 285, 289, 293, 296,

             316, 319, 340, 341, 346, 348, 351, 358, 361, 365, 371, 372, 374, 375, 378, 384, 389, 397,

             410, 418, 423, 425, 427, 429, 431, 439, 450, 457, 458, 460, 463, 469, 471, 478, 479, 486, 492,

            501, 507, 513, 519, 523, 524, 527, 530, 534, 537, 541, 543, 560, 561, 567, 569, 576, 578, 579, 584, 587, 591, 592, 596,

             602, 604, 607, 608, 610, 615, 624, 625, 628, 631, 634, 635, 640, 647, 652, 671, 672, 673, 679, 691, 695, 697, 698,

            701, 704, 706, 708, 709, 714, 721, 723, 724, 732, 735, 736, 738, 740, 741, 742, 745, 746, 752, 756, 790, 794, 795,

            804, 805, 807, 809, 810, 813, 814, 819, 823, 824, 830, 840, 841, 845, 849, 850, 852, 857, 867, 890, 892, 896,

            902, 903, 910, 912, 913, 923, 925, 928, 931, 935, 938, 942, 943, 950, 958, 962, 963, 964, 965, 970, 981, 984, 985, 987

             

             One of these Double or Single number Straights should hit around every 3rd draw in CA Eve.

              The only filter applied so far here is a form of a 1000 draw time filter ...using a 3 year/365 draw schedule. 

             In general... most P-3 games will have a similiar amount of OLD Straights still standing using a similar time filter. 

             

             So.... we have ruffly a 66% straight number reduction using this one filter with a 33% success rate ....on average. If ,, we played em' all each draw. 

             Still .... not a bad place to start each draw.

             

             

                      Using a particular "Positional Filter" we have discussed on the Systems forum before ..... we can apply that as our second filter. We should be able to get an additional reduction of around another 50%. 

             The positional filter relies on the fact that Most single numbers will repeat at least one or Two  digits in the next draw.... MOST of the time. Single to Single number.  Skipping doubles.  

             This positional filter works around 51% of the time using Single to Single numbers ...... and around 66% of the time using both Singles and Doubles together.

             Most of the time...... repeating digits     " Do not repeat on top of themselves"  

               Hence the statement .....           The Positional Filters work ....... " Most of the Time"  

             

             

            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                   Win d    

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              Posted: August 31, 2009, 9:16 pm - IP Logged

              haha not only CA  FL is very similar, I guess its the hot weather good job do

              And the answer is ???       U won't get it, if u don't ask the question ??

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                Get your 100 or so exact order str8s and look into your sytems tracking for exact order prs filter.

                Current S.C. selection for 9/2 mid.

                ABC 123 LMH
                012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 023, 024,
                025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038,
                039, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058, 059,
                067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089, 123, 124, 125, 126,
                127, 128, 129, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 145,
                146, 147, 148, 149, 156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168,
                169, 178, 179, 189, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239,
                245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 256, 257, 258, 259, 267,
                268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349,
                356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389,
                456, 457, 458, 459, 467, 468, 469, 478, 479, 489,
                567, 568, 569, 578, 579, 589, 678, 679, 689, 789

                 

                fr pr
                045, 046, 047, 048, 049,
                123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129,
                189,
                467, 468, 469
                678, 679,

                sp pr
                012,013,023,015,025,035,045,016,026,036,046,056
                126,136,146,156,127,137,147,157,167,
                345,347,357,367,349,359,369,379,389
                457,467,
                678,679,689

                bkpr
                018
                147,247,347,049,149,249,349
                059,159,259,359,459

                WHATT

                  WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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                  Posted: September 3, 2009, 10:06 am - IP Logged

                   Thanks for the replies everyone ..... and John..... thanks for the printout.

                   Noticed that CA had a Straight hit off the list ....a little early. 

                    I really wish I could take advantage of some of the more obvious filters at the right times ...... after the fact they always seem so completely obvious .....of course.  Perhaps.....if I were smarter it would be obvious before hand. 

                   

                    I always think to myself......  If a smart person had the same information I had worked on at the time .....he could have won.  The system takes over.....and gets more of the focus ....than actually winning.

                     The smart bet...... doing insurance bets etc ....that is a big problem with me.  "Good" Bets ......sometimes even large bets ........are actually more conservative plays than small ones..... in certain cases. My conservative nature blinds me to many good opportunities. Sometimes going for a BOX win .....is the smart play...not chasing straights.  

                   

                      Pick 3 seems more of a players hobby game than a betting game anyway. Such terrible odds we're up against!  Pick 3 is 17 times worse odds than any Vegas slot machine limits. It's actually against the law in Vegas for casinos to set the payouts any lower.......but not the Government run games.  LOL

                   

                   "I do know this ...... I spend way too much time and effort trying to be right on the very next draw."

                                                                                                                                        Win D

                   

                   

                  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                         Win d