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I am new to the pick 4 game.

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There appears to be 715 boxed pick 4 combinations.

Of those:

Singles are 210

Doubles are 360

Double Doubles are 45

Triples are 90

Quads are 10

If the above is wrong, please let me know.

Texas pays:

Singles are $200 for $1

Doubles are $400

Double Doubles are $800

Triples are $1200

Quads are $5 000

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If doubles are 360 box combinations, Why do they pay more than singles which only are 210?

What am I missing here or where is my mistake?

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Texas (TX) Daily 4 Day Past Winning Numbers
 Draw Date       Results
Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9 Doubles
Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3 Singles
Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6 Doubles
Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3 Doubles
Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6 Double Doubles
Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3 Doubles
Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4 Singles
Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2 Doubles
Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6 Singles
Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8 Double Doubles

3 Singles

5 Doubles

2 Double Doubles

0 Triples

0 Quads

Betting on Doubles might be good(?).
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Texas (TX) Daily 4 Night Past Winning Numbers
 Draw Date       Results
Sat, Oct 03, 2009    9-6-1-3 Single
Fri, Oct 02, 2009    5-5-3-5 Double
Thu, Oct 01, 2009    7-8-8-9 Double
Wed, Sep 30, 2009    5-6-9-3 Single
Tue, Sep 29, 2009    0-3-1-4 Single
Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-9-2-6 Single
Sat, Sep 26, 2009    3-9-7-1 Single
Fri, Sep 25, 2009    2-3-2-2 Triple
Thu, Sep 24, 2009    9-3-5-9 Double
Wed, Sep 23, 2009    8-0-2-3 Single

6 Singles

3 Doubles

0 Double Doubles

1 Triples

0 Quads

Betting on singles or doubles might be good (?).

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Both games combined might show that Doubles might be the best bet, if I am not wrong about the win prizes and the number of combinations for each.

Or maybe singles are still the best bet?

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What is your opinion, Which is the best bet?

I am trying to learn about this game, I was asked for help about it, but know nothing.

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I said that I was going to leave this game alone, but maybe not.

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Those past draws are way too few to base anything on them.

Pick 4 box numbers don't pay that good either.

But at least a little more than the pick 3.

I need to try to predict for this game, but I like filters as my technique.

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    Straight

    Singles are 210 x 24 = 5 040

    Doubles are 360 x 12 = 4 320

    Double Doubles are 45 x 6 = 270

    Triples are 90 x 4 = 360

    Quads are 10 x 1 = 10

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    As seen here, both Singles and Doubles should come about as often almost.

    If a person could win straight with Double Doubles that would be maybe good (?).

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      Posted: October 5, 2009, 8:43 pm - IP Logged

      This of course doesn't show The Pick 4 Forum predictors.

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      Top 10 Predictors for All States, Pick 4 Games
          Last Updated: Today, 2:49 am
      Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Prize Ratio)
              Member      Prize Ratio      Wagers      Winnings
      1.    hopefull434    833.33%    $12    $100
      2.    twedk    670.10%    $388    $2,600
      3.    mymonthlypicks    460.53%    $13,810    $63,600
      4.    ConstantlyB    281.55%    $1,030    $2,900
      5.    double    187.91%    $1,490    $2,800
      6.    WinSumBucks    175.25%    $3,880    $6,800
      7.    re5333    164.31%    $3,834    $6,300
      8.    astr8today70    149.83%    $5,940    $8,900
      9.    ADB-23    146.70%    $4,635    $6,800
      10.    lottoman888    138.97%    $13,240    $18,400
             
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      1.    teacake58    572.03%    $23,932    $136,900
      2.    hopefull434    555.55%    $18    $100
      3.    kreate    345.74%    $752    $2,600
      4.    Guru101    333.33%    $30    $100
      5.    boadi    228.47%    $2,451    $5,600
      6.    VALJEAN    208.40%    $5,518    $11,500
      7.    ToadSchmode    205.68%    $27,469    $56,500
      8.    BernieMadoff    170.72%    $8,786    $15,000
      9.    ohiopick3    167.85%    $3,932    $6,600
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        There appears to be 715 boxed pick 4 combinations.

        Of those:

        Singles are 210

        Doubles are 360

        Double Doubles are 45

        Triples are 90

        Quads are 10

        If the above is wrong, please let me know.

        Texas pays:

        Singles are $200 for $1

        Doubles are $400

        Double Doubles are $800

        Triples are $1200

        Quads are $5 000

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        If doubles are 360 box combinations, Why do they pay more than singles which only are 210?

        What am I missing here or where is my mistake?

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        Texas (TX) Daily 4 Day Past Winning Numbers
         Draw Date       Results
        Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9 Doubles
        Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3 Singles
        Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6 Doubles
        Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3 Doubles
        Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6 Double Doubles
        Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3 Doubles
        Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4 Singles
        Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2 Doubles
        Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6 Singles
        Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8 Double Doubles

        3 Singles

        5 Doubles

        2 Double Doubles

        0 Triples

        0 Quads

        Betting on Doubles might be good(?).
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        Texas (TX) Daily 4 Night Past Winning Numbers
         Draw Date       Results
        Sat, Oct 03, 2009    9-6-1-3 Single
        Fri, Oct 02, 2009    5-5-3-5 Double
        Thu, Oct 01, 2009    7-8-8-9 Double
        Wed, Sep 30, 2009    5-6-9-3 Single
        Tue, Sep 29, 2009    0-3-1-4 Single
        Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-9-2-6 Single
        Sat, Sep 26, 2009    3-9-7-1 Single
        Fri, Sep 25, 2009    2-3-2-2 Triple
        Thu, Sep 24, 2009    9-3-5-9 Double
        Wed, Sep 23, 2009    8-0-2-3 Single

        6 Singles

        3 Doubles

        0 Double Doubles

        1 Triples

        0 Quads

        Betting on singles or doubles might be good (?).

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        Both games combined might show that Doubles might be the best bet, if I am not wrong about the win prizes and the number of combinations for each.

        Or maybe singles are still the best bet?

        -------------------

        What is your opinion, Which is the best bet?

        I am trying to learn about this game, I was asked for help about it, but know nothing.

        -------

        I said that I was going to leave this game alone, but maybe not.

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        Those past draws are way too few to base anything on them.

        Pick 4 box numbers don't pay that good either.

        But at least a little more than the pick 3.

        I need to try to predict for this game, but I like filters as my technique.

        Your numbers are correct.

        Doubles = 360 * 12 possible combos = 4320 different numbers

        Singles  =  210 * 24 possible combos = 5040 different numbers.

         

        Perhaps that is why Doubles pay more.

        Best wishes !

        Bob

         

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          Top 10 Predictors for Texas, Pick 4 Games
              Last Updated: Today, 2:49 am
          Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Prize Ratio)
                  Member      Prize Ratio      Wagers      Winnings
          1.    dr65    777.77%    $360    $2,800
          2.    mssue    759.80%    $408    $3,100
          3.    diamondpalace    714.28%    $364    $2,600
          4.    dcaros    375.00%    $480    $1,800
          5.    ochoop17    245.45%    $1,100    $2,700
          6.    lisaedwards1964    233.33%    $300    $700
          7.    MmeFlorida    152.00%    $2,500    $3,800
          8.    mint2bme    142.85%    $280    $400
          9.    NBey6    133.06%    $1,954    $2,600
          10.    wantolearn    125.00%    $80    $100
              JADELottery    125.00%    $2,400    $3,000
              lory7646    125.00%    $320    $400
                 
          Highest Lifetime Prize Ratio
                  Member      Prize Ratio      Wagers      Winnings
          1.    msmusic    422.96%    $662    $2,800
          2.    nicklespice722    388.88%    $180    $700
          3.    NCJB    250.00%    $160    $400
          4.    mssue    229.97%    $1,348    $3,100
          5.    VALJEAN    208.33%    $48    $100
          6.    msgirlinga    189.71%    $1,634    $3,100
          7.    sclotto    181.70%    $1,541    $2,800
          8.    dr65    177.66%    $1,970    $3,500
          9.    Toney725    163.56%    $3,974    $6,500
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            Your numbers are correct.

            Doubles = 360 * 12 possible combos = 4320 different numbers

            Singles  =  210 * 24 possible combos = 5040 different numbers.

             

            Perhaps that is why Doubles pay more.

            Best wishes !

            Bob

            Thank You Bob!

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              Well, if God allows, the thing now is to look at stats of past draws and then see if I can develop some kind of filters technique for reduction-prediction.

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                The more digits-positions that a game has, the more possible filters that the game has.

                A pick 3 game has 1, 2 and 3 digits filters.

                A pick 4 game has 1, 2, 3 and 4 digits filters.

                Yet, we don't see pick 4 software having 3 digits filters on it, that limits all the possible filtration that can be applied to its combinations.

                Of course, a reason might be that 2 and 3 digits filters for a pick 4 game can be very complicated to use and mostly to properly implement into the software, but the reward for all of that trouble could be good wins, winning with fewer combinations and more often, but a person can't use what is not there.

                So one way or another what is there might have to do otherwise quit trying to make those particular predictions, if the numbers played are too many and or the wins too few.

                I didn't know, but just noticed that there is a software for pick 4 that at least handles some 2 and 3 digits filters, besides the "regular" 4 digits filters.

                On top of it, it seems to also have VTracks filters, just thanks to it, it might be possible to more or less properly reduce the pick 4 combos, the problem here might be the lack of stats, but there is a program that gives "regular" pick 4 stats, others or all maybe can be done by hand, but so might work that a person might have to do them on only a few past draws, if one is doing this for a long time, it might be easier as one would only have to update the stats by hand as new draws come out once or twice a day.

                On pick 4 games a person would need stats of very many more past draws than one needs for a pick 3 game.

                For boxed prediction some fewer past draws than for straight.

                On pick 3 games there are only 2 main types of numbers, singles and boxed and singles come out the most often so those are the ones that most people try to predict for.

                On the pick 4 might be a little harder to know what to predict for, at least untill stats of very many past draws are checked first.

                As the boxed  pick 4 pays only a little more than the boxed pick 3 it might not be as easy to make a profit, well as I am not playing for money anyway and only for malke believe, I should not worry too much about this.

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                  Straight

                  Singles are 210 x 24 = 5 040

                  Doubles are 360 x 12 = 4 320

                  Double Doubles are 45 x 6 = 270

                  Triples are 90 x 4 = 360

                  Quads are 10 x 1 = 10

                  --------

                  As seen here, both Singles and Doubles should come about as often almost.

                  If a person could win straight with Double Doubles that would be maybe good (?).

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                  I don't go for all states, I am a single state person.

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                  Texas pays:

                  Boxed Singles are $200 for $1

                  Boxed Doubles are $400

                  Boxed Double Doubles are $800

                  Boxed Triples are $1200

                  Quads are $5 000

                  --------

                  If doubles are 360 box combinations, Why do they pay more than singles which only are 210?

                  Str8 Single Pays $5000, Boxed Single is 1/24 of $5000=$200

                  Str8 Double Pays $5000, Boxed Double is 1/12 of $5000=$400

                  Str8 Double-Double Pays $5000, Boxed Double-Double is 1/6 of $5000=$800

                  Str8 Triple Pays $5000, Boxed Triple is 1/4 of $5000=$1200

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                    Texas (TX) Daily 4 Day Past Winning Numbers
                     Draw Date       Results
                    Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9 .D
                    Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3 .S
                    Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6 .D
                    Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3 .D
                    Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6 DD
                    Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3 .D
                    Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4 .S
                    Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2 .D
                    Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6 .S
                    Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8 DD

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                    Texas (TX) Daily 4 Night Past Winning Numbers
                     Draw Date       Results
                    Sat, Oct 03, 2009    9-6-1-3 .S
                    Fri, Oct 02, 2009    5-5-3-5 .D
                    Thu, Oct 01, 2009    7-8-8-9 .D
                    Wed, Sep 30, 2009    5-6-9-3 .S
                    Tue, Sep 29, 2009    0-3-1-4 .S
                    Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-9-2-6 .S
                    Sat, Sep 26, 2009    3-9-7-1 .S
                    Fri, Sep 25, 2009    2-3-2-2 .T
                    Thu, Sep 24, 2009    9-3-5-9 .D
                    Wed, Sep 23, 2009    8-0-2-3 .S

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                    8 Doubles and 9 Singles on 20 past draws.

                    It looks as if the odds are no worse nor better than on a pick 3 game.

                    But looks and are, might not be the same in reality, we will see.

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                      Texas pays:

                      Boxed Singles are $200 for $1

                      Boxed Doubles are $400

                      Boxed Double Doubles are $800

                      Boxed Triples are $1200

                      Quads are $5 000

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                      If doubles are 360 box combinations, Why do they pay more than singles which only are 210?

                      Str8 Single Pays $5000, Boxed Single is 1/24 of $5000=$200

                      Str8 Double Pays $5000, Boxed Double is 1/12 of $5000=$400

                      Str8 Double-Double Pays $5000, Boxed Double-Double is 1/6 of $5000=$800

                      Str8 Triple Pays $5000, Boxed Triple is 1/4 of $5000=$1200

                      Thanks a lot, I guess all it is then as should be, I thought that maybe there was a mistake somewhere.

                      Now trying to  make some few stats by hand, that is going to take quite some work, I don't have LotSoft, but as good as it might be, it probably does not give 2 and 3 digits stats for pick 4 games (?).

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                      What would be good is to beat the game straight, boxed pays so little.

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                        This is a new game for me so Fernando (myself) might be making some or a few kinds of new filters for it.

                        I make mistakes, so beware!

                        L = Low, E = Even

                        Texas (TX) Daily 4 Day Past Winning Numbers
                         Draw Date       Results
                        Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9 .D 0L 0E
                        Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3 .S 3L 1E
                        Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6 .D 2L 3E
                        Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3 .D 4L 3E
                        Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6 DD 2L 4E
                        Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3 .D 2L 3E
                        Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4 .S 3L 2E
                        Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2 .D 3L 2E
                        Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6 .S 2L 3E
                        Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8 DD 0L 2E

                        Maybe 16 possible combinations to the full Double Compound filter(?)

                        Somebody double check this for me please, as all this is for everybody here at LP.

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                        Texas (TX) Daily 4 Night Past Winning Numbers
                         Draw Date       Results
                        Sat, Oct 03, 2009    9-6-1-3 .S
                        Fri, Oct 02, 2009    5-5-3-5 .D
                        Thu, Oct 01, 2009    7-8-8-9 .D
                        Wed, Sep 30, 2009    5-6-9-3 .S
                        Tue, Sep 29, 2009    0-3-1-4 .S
                        Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-9-2-6 .S
                        Sat, Sep 26, 2009    3-9-7-1 .S
                        Fri, Sep 25, 2009    2-3-2-2 .T
                        Thu, Sep 24, 2009    9-3-5-9 .D
                        Wed, Sep 23, 2009    8-0-2-3 .S

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                          Out = 0, 1, 2, 8, 9.

                          Texas (TX) Daily 4 Day Past Winning Numbers
                           Draw Date       Results
                          Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9 .D 0L 0E 1O
                          Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3 .S 3L 1E 3O
                          Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6 .D 2L 3E 2O
                          Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3 .D 4L 3E 2O
                          Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6 DD 2L 4E 2O
                          Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3 .D 2L 3E 0O
                          Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4 .S 3L 2E 2O
                          Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2 .D 3L 2E 3O
                          Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6 .S 2L 3E 1O
                          Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8 DD 0L 2E 2O

                          The 2Out was Hot there.

                          16 X 4 = 64 Triple Compound filter

                          Or any 2 there = 4 x 4 = 16

                          Unless I made mistake(s).

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                            This is a new game for me so Fernando (myself) might be making some or a few kinds of new filters for it.

                            I make mistakes, so beware!

                            L = Low, E = Even

                            Texas (TX) Daily 4 Day Past Winning Numbers
                             Draw Date       Results
                            Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9 .D 0L 0E
                            Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3 .S 3L 1E
                            Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6 .D 2L 3E
                            Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3 .D 4L 3E
                            Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6 DD 2L 4E
                            Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3 .D 2L 3E
                            Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4 .S 3L 2E
                            Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2 .D 3L 2E
                            Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6 .S 2L 3E
                            Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8 DD 0L 2E

                            Maybe 16 possible combinations to the full Double Compound filter(?)

                            Somebody double check this for me please, as all this is for everybody here at LP.

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                            Texas (TX) Daily 4 Night Past Winning Numbers
                             Draw Date       Results
                            Sat, Oct 03, 2009    9-6-1-3 .S
                            Fri, Oct 02, 2009    5-5-3-5 .D
                            Thu, Oct 01, 2009    7-8-8-9 .D
                            Wed, Sep 30, 2009    5-6-9-3 .S
                            Tue, Sep 29, 2009    0-3-1-4 .S
                            Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-9-2-6 .S
                            Sat, Sep 26, 2009    3-9-7-1 .S
                            Fri, Sep 25, 2009    2-3-2-2 .T
                            Thu, Sep 24, 2009    9-3-5-9 .D
                            Wed, Sep 23, 2009    8-0-2-3 .S

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                            Thats correct LANTERN

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                              Posted: October 5, 2009, 10:55 pm - IP Logged

                              Thats correct LANTERN

                              Thanks a lot!

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