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I am new to the pick 4 game.

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Posted: October 6, 2009, 12:25 am - IP Logged

very cool thanks,cant wait to see where u going with this.i will go over it one more.

Later as I can you will still see quite some more on Tuesday, including some straight filters.

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    Tx MId

    Now a look at the Lowest To Highest Digits Width

    Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9  5 to 9 = 4 Lowest to Highest Width
    Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3  0 to 9 = 9
    Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6           5
    Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3           4 A repeat width from the last draw(1Failure).
    Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6           4
    Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3           3
    Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4           5
    Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2           7
    Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6           5
    Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8           1

    Here most of the time that width changed from last to the very next draw

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    Tx Eve

    Mon, Oct 05, 2009    2-0-3-0  3
    Sat, Oct 03, 2009    9-6-1-3  8
    Fri, Oct 02, 2009    5-5-3-5  2
    Thu, Oct 01, 2009    7-8-8-9  2
    Wed, Sep 30, 2009    5-6-9-3  6
    Tue, Sep 29, 2009    0-3-1-4  4
    Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-9-2-6  8
    Sat, Sep 26, 2009    3-9-7-1  8
    Fri, Sep 25, 2009    2-3-2-2  1
    Thu, Sep 24, 2009    9-3-5-9  6

    2 Times from last to next draws the width repeated out of 9 possible times.

    So to try to get around that, let us see if a filters "trick" might help or not:

    Mon, Oct 05, 2009    2-0-3-0  3 = 6
    Sat, Oct 03, 2009    9-6-1-3  8 = 1
    Fri, Oct 02, 2009    5-5-3-5  2 = 5
    Thu, Oct 01, 2009    7-8-8-9  2 = 5
    Wed, Sep 30, 2009    5-6-9-3  6 = 9
    Tue, Sep 29, 2009    0-3-1-4  4 = 7
    Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-9-2-6  8 = 1
    Sat, Sep 26, 2009    3-9-7-1  8 = 1 (8+3=1)
    Fri, Sep 25, 2009    2-3-2-2  1 = 4 (1+3=4)
    Thu, Sep 24, 2009    9-3-5-9  6 = 9 (6+3=9)

    Now for the very same filter no repeats! Let me show you what is going on:

    Mon, Oct 05, 2009    2-0-3-0  3 = 6                # 6 (The next draw is yet to come)
    Sat, Oct 03, 2009    9-6-1-3  8 = 1                # 1
    Fri, Oct 02, 2009    5-5-3-5  2 = 5                # 5
    Thu, Oct 01, 2009    7-8-8-9  2 = 5                # 5
    Wed, Sep 30, 2009    5-6-9-3  6 = 9                # 9
    Tue, Sep 29, 2009    0-3-1-4  4 = 7                # 7
    Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-9-2-6  8 = 1                # 1,(4 Came Out Next)
    Sat, Sep 26, 2009    3-9-7-1  8 = 1                # 1 (#8 Came Out Next).
    Fri, Sep 25, 2009    2-3-2-2  1 = 4 Filter Out the # 4 Width for the next draw.
    Thu, Sep 24, 2009    9-3-5-9  6 = 9 Filter Out the Lowest To Highest # 7 Width for The very next draw. As the # 1 Width came out next, there was no filter's failure.

    Often, the only way of getting fewer filters failures is to find and use good filters tricks.

    But things get a little complicated and some people can't understand the explanations, at least at first.

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    Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9  5 to 9 = 4 + 3 = 7
    Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3  0 to 9 = 9 + 3 = 2
    Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6           5 + 3 = 8
    Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3           4 + 3 = 7
    Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6           4 + 3 = 7
    Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3           3 + 3 = 6
    Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4           5 + 3 = 8
    Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2           7 + 3 = 0
    Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6           5 + 3 = 8
    Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8           1 + 3 = 4

    No Lowest to Highest Filter Failures Now! All failures were corrected (Avoided)on both daily draws, due to the "+ 3" trick used.

    It took a little while to find the right compensating factor.

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      Now, let us look at a Difference Filter for that Lowest to highest Width:

      Tx MId

      Now a look at the Lowest To Highest Digits Width

      Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5-5-7-9  5 to 9 = 4  5 
      Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1-0-9-3  0 to 9 = 9  4
      Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2-7-2-6           5  1
      Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0-4-0-3           4  0 
      Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2-6-2-6           4  1
      Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6-6-4-3           3  2
      Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4           5  2 7 to 5 = 2 Difference.
      Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2           7  2 5 to 7 = 2 Difference.
      Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6           5 4  1 to 5 = 4 Difference.
      Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8           1

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      The question now is, How to use the Difference Filters?

      Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2           7   
      Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6           5 4   
      Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7-7-8-8           1

      We Have to start with the Fri draw there.

      The difference from last draw to it was 4, so:

      5 - 4 = 1

      5 + 4 = 9

      For the very next draw filter out the 1 and the 9 Lowest To Highest Width from your source of pick 4 numbers.

      The very next width that came out on Sat was the # 7 Lowest to Highest Width so there was no filter failure there at that time.

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      Another example:

      Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1-0-5-4           5   
      Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2-9-3-2           7  2 
      Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3-4-8-6           5

      7 - 2 = 5

      7 + 2 = 9

      Filter out the 5 and 9 widths for the very next draw.

      The 5 width came out next, so there was a filter failure!

      The Whole things needs to be done, if on 10 draws more than 1 failure is seen then this difference filter should not be used.

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      It would be too hard maybe to find and use filters tricks to avoid these failures as things would get too hard to work with.

      Some filters just can't be used at times, until the pattterns change in their favor.

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        Posted: October 6, 2009, 9:22 am - IP Logged

        A pick 4 has 4 digits positions, so digits filters can be used on 4 positions.

        A pick 3 game has 3 digits positions and 3 pairs.

        How many possible pairs are there on a pick 4 game? Can somebody post the answer here, please?

        The easy to know about are the:

        1-0-9-3

        Lth Pair 10

        Middle Pair 09

        Rth Pair 93

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        I know that there is a:

        19 Pair there and a 03 Pair also.

        And a 13 Pair.

        That makes 6 Pairs, Are there any more?

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          If you filter out 1 digit for each position on a pick 3 game that leaves you with:

          9x9x9= 729 Straight Combinations.

          Filter Out 2 digits and:

          8x8x8= 512 Almost Half of the combinations filtered out!

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          Pick 4 game:

          9x9x9x9= 6561

          8x8x8x8= 4096

          A little fewer than half of the total straight combinations.

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          Digits Filters have a lot of filtering power!

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            First and Lth pick 4 position seen here:

            Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5
            Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1
            Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2
            Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0
            Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2
            Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6
            Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1
            Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2
            Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3
            Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7

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            Difference Filter Seen Here:

            Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5 4
            Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1 1
            Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2 2
            Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0 2 2-0 = 2 And 2+0= 2 Failed for Next Draw.
            Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2 4
            Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6 5
            Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1 1
            Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2 1 2-1=1 Failed For Next Draw.
            Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3 4 7-3 = 4 and 7+3= 0 Filter out 4, 0 Digits.
            Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7

            It failed 2 times out of 9 possible times.

            We have some power filtration here!

            Maybe a Filters Trick could be found and used, but would complicate the workout a lot and people might not understand it.

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            Another way:

            Mon, Oct 05, 2009    5 6 = 1
            Sat, Oct 03, 2009    1 3 = 2 and 4
            Fri, Oct 02, 2009    2 2 = 0 and 4
            Thu, Oct 01, 2009    0 2 = 2 Failed
            Wed, Sep 30, 2009    2 8 = 0, 6 Failed
            Tue, Sep 29, 2009    6 7 = 1 and 3 Filter Out the 1, 3 Digits.
            Mon, Sep 28, 2009    1 3 1+3=4 and 1=3=2 Filter Out the 4, 2 Digits
            Sat, Sep 26, 2009    2 5 2+5=7 and 2-5=3 Filter Out the 7, 3 Digits
            Fri, Sep 25, 2009    3 0 0+0=0 and 0-0=0 Filter Out the 0 Digit
            Thu, Sep 24, 2009    7

            2 Failures there, but 2 Digits filter out more than half of the total straight combinations.

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            There are other possible digits filters Techniques, it takes just some time to find them.

            Filters tricks to possibly reduce filters failures takes longer to find if they can be found at all, sometimes it is just not possible to reduce or avoid the filters failures, but the biggest problem with their use is how very much they complicate the filters workouts, they get so hard to understand and use.

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              To make some digits filters besides these requires to make some more or less complicated charts, I did some of those once long ago.

              Another way is to make a =, -, + workout(s) of some kind(s), I also did such long ago.

              If done right, they can work good enough.

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              Next would be: Pairs Filters.

              At this time I won't talk about these filters.

              They can also be very powerfull if done right, not so easy to develop, takes a lot of thinking and thinking right and due to lack of proper filters software, maybe hard to use.

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                Pick 4, even with the single digit boxed payout is the better game.

                Double, double sets are good to win and not impossible to hit.

                Daily number p3 box payout on .50 = $40 in PA - $80 for a double.

                Big 4 box payout on .50 varies - but, all single digits - $100

                I don't really look at the $100 as being a small return especially when considering a .50 bet.

                The straight hit $2,500. on .50 is so much more bang for your 1/2 buck than the p3 straight @ $250.

                It's worth the time and study.

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                I Agree!

                For the amount of money spent on a bet the Pick-4 payout is far better than the Pick-3 game.

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                  I Agree!

                  For the amount of money spent on a bet the Pick-4 payout is far better than the Pick-3 game.

                  Mike

                  Yes, That is Right!

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                    Next:

                    3 Digits Filters For the Pick 4 Game!

                    The very same pick 3 filters that I have posted about some very many times before, but also used for the pick 3 game as a kind of "Triads"

                    For Example, How Many Straight pick 3 or 3 digits strings are there on the 4 digits of a pick 4 game?

                    1-0-9-3

                    109

                    093

                    103

                    193

                    I can only find 4 of them myself, Are there any more?

                    Anyhow they maybe can be used also as reduction filters fore the pick 4 game, maybe even of some good power, I don't know, the main limitation might be the lottery softwares themselves.

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                      Yes, That is Right!

                      It's also possible to win a Million dollars off of a Pick-4 [$200.00 x $5000.00 = $1,000,000.00]

                      Now this will take some time and alot of Pick-4 wins but it is possible.

                      Texas is a good example, I hit the Texas pick-4 (box) yesterday 5579 was the winning number, I had played 5597 and 5975. Box win was $200.00, now the trick is to take the $200.00 and parlay that to a point where you can afford to place $200.00 bets on a single Pick-4 number to win the million.

                      I hope we can all put our heads together on this and come up with a workable plan to nail the sucker in the state of Texas.

                       >Michael

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                        2 possible problems:

                        To reduce the numbers to a playable level

                        To win often enough.

                        You all have been predicting the pick 4 game for a long while, I have not!

                        Maybe something here can help.

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                          Well, I have not gotten into a lot of detail regarding stats, because I always like best "Easier and much simpler ways", when you do things by hand, it is best to do the lottery workouts in the easiest way possible, even if it might not be the best way prediction-wise.

                          Well, a few possible straight filters for the pick 4 next.

                          I skipped the pairs filters and did some digit filters (Which are much more powerfull than all other filters), but didn't get into complicated digits filters techniques.

                          Also did some 4 digits boxed-straight filters techniques.

                          As you can see there is some stuff that perhaps coiuld be of some practical use here, if my past pick 3 predictions are any indication of, of this.

                          The problem is with those who handle the lotteries, the most important question has always been and still is:

                          Are they running "honest" games or not!

                          Probably not so honest, if you ask me.

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                            Mike

                            2 possible problems:

                            To reduce the numbers to a playable level

                            To win often enough.

                            You all have been predicting the pick 4 game for a long while, I have not!

                            Maybe something here can help.

                            Lantern, you are correct, the real obstacles is playing the right numbers and hitting straight often enough.

                            But, as I said it is possible. I like a few numbers today in the Mid-Day game for the state of Texas, (2389) and (0448) both shown here boxed but I am playing them in a straight combination. Should any of them hit straight then I would win $5000.00 which will then enable me to go after the Pick-4 str8 for $200.00.

                            Will then be playing with the states money (smile) $5000.00 divided by $200.00 gives me 25 chances to do it.

                             >Michael

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                              Mike

                              Good Luck to you!

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