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More shenannigans from the Illinois Lottery

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Posted: October 20, 2009, 2:33 am - IP Logged

Tonight on WGN-TV when they showed the drawing, they did the Pick 3, the Pick 4, then the Lotto (Pick 6), skipping the Little Lotto (Pick 5), which always comes before the Lotto..

When they announced the Lotto they said the jackpot was $12 million, but it wan't, it was $7 million.

Then they said due to technical difficultires the Little Lotto results would be shown later in the broadcast.

Illinois still uses balls, thank goodness, but so much for a pre-test I guess.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Posted: October 20, 2009, 10:45 am - IP Logged

    If you don't trust the lottery don't play it..I use to go to the race track with a friend in the 80's and he would say the races was fixed..To me that's a sign of a loser..All the lottery games in every state is regulated and are watched closley..If I thougt the lottery was being unfair and shenannigans was happeniing I'd quit so until the lottery is not proved they are cheating I'll keep buying tickets..

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      Posted: October 20, 2009, 11:17 am - IP Logged

      How can the lotteries be unfair?

       

      Someone wins, if someone does not win, it rollsover.

      When it rollsover, more play and a greater chance of someone winning the pot.

       

      Since it is a quasigovernment corporation, it is not like a casino to where the

      house benefits.  In a lottery, the house is not the workers or the owners.

       

      A non-winner does not benefit them.

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        Posted: October 20, 2009, 3:44 pm - IP Logged

        i happen to know someone who works for KPMG (the auditors of the illinois state lottery) and he says its all on the up and up.  everything is tested, the balls are weighed before and after the drawings, the machines are tested etc etc.

        he said it was almost overkill how much security they take into account for this.

         

        i should ask about the raffle drawings tho - a lottery official told me a computer makes the selections - GREAT!

        why wouldnt they at least have the 4 million dollar winners drawn live on TV???

        doesnt make sense...

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          Posted: October 20, 2009, 5:58 pm - IP Logged

          tiggs95, bomatt,

          I didn't say fixed, I said shenannigans.

          The pre-test is supposed to amke sure there are no glitches, no mechanical (ball drawing) mishaps, so the live drawing goes smoothly.

          Do a search and there are plenty of pre-test discussions here on LP.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: October 20, 2009, 6:26 pm - IP Logged

            Tonight on WGN-TV when they showed the drawing, they did the Pick 3, the Pick 4, then the Lotto (Pick 6), skipping the Little Lotto (Pick 5), which always comes before the Lotto..

            When they announced the Lotto they said the jackpot was $12 million, but it wan't, it was $7 million.

            Then they said due to technical difficultires the Little Lotto results would be shown later in the broadcast.

            Illinois still uses balls, thank goodness, but so much for a pre-test I guess.

            Hey Coin Toss,

            Did they show it live or taped later in the broadcast?

            I'm not saying it's fixed either but opportunities can arrise if you know what I mean.

            Stranger things have happened with a wink and a nod (I grew up in Chicago).


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

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              Posted: October 20, 2009, 6:45 pm - IP Logged

              rdgrnr,

              We're way downstate (closer to Nashville, TN than Chicago) so we don't get the news every night, but when we do the drawing is live at 9:22 PM Central Time.

              When they have technical difficulties they jjst post the numbers from that drawing on the screen later on in the broadcast, like they do when there's a Cubs, White sox, Bears, Bulls, or Blackhawks game on.

              As I've posted beore, this happens often enough to make you wonder.

              Last night was the first time I've seen them just skop a game though. On any night when there's all the state dtawings, Pick 3, 4, Little Lotto, and Lotto, if there's a snag they usually just stop right there, gice the technical difficulties message, and say results will be posted later on.

              Also, I still think it was odd that she said the jackpot was $12 million when it was $7 million. Maybe she was mixing it up with tonight's Mega.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: October 20, 2009, 8:47 pm - IP Logged

                Coin Toss read my post again I said shenannigans..I'ver been playing the lottery since the mid 80's when I lived in Fla and have heard of mistakes (we all make them) but have yet heard of a lottery cheating or as you call it shenannigans..Good luck..

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                  tiggs95, bomatt,

                  I didn't say fixed, I said shenannigans.

                  The pre-test is supposed to amke sure there are no glitches, no mechanical (ball drawing) mishaps, so the live drawing goes smoothly.

                  Do a search and there are plenty of pre-test discussions here on LP.

                  Of course no glitches occur in the pre-test. 

                   

                  Murphy ensures that.

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                    Posted: October 20, 2009, 9:52 pm - IP Logged

                    Thanks bomatt..Your post this morning at 11am made perfect sense..The lottery in each state is regulated and regulated well..

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                      Posted: October 20, 2009, 9:58 pm - IP Logged

                      bomatt...Go over to the pick 3 page and look down at the post PING PONG BALLS and look at what KingAtl has to say about the lottery and ping pong balls..

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                        Coin Toss read my post again I said shenannigans..I'ver been playing the lottery since the mid 80's when I lived in Fla and have heard of mistakes (we all make them) but have yet heard of a lottery cheating or as you call it shenannigans..Good luck..

                        If memory serves me correctly ( and it usually doesn't) are there not about three people from the Kentucky lottory in jail right now convicted of rigging one of Kentucky's lotto games?  Something about putting a drop or two of water in several ping pong balls which restricted the chances of them popping up? 

                        If anyone knows the correct state, please make the necessary correction.

                        And to those of you who trust explicitedly in RNG states conducting a fair drawing, keep on trusting.  I, for one, will not until there is more openess.

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                          Posted: October 21, 2009, 8:00 pm - IP Logged

                          GASMETERGUY..I have never heard of anyone cheating like you said..I'll check into it and see if what you say is true..I also don't like RGN and we have it here in Ky in our 3 line lotto game..Other then that we have ping pong balls...Good luck..

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                            Posted: October 22, 2009, 12:07 am - IP Logged

                            Well, tonight was an instant reply for the Little Lotto....."technical difficulties".

                            Guess they didn't get the machine fixed in a day.

                            tiggs95,

                            Search this site or the internet for "Pennsylvania lottery scandal". In fact, I think there's soemrhing in the News forum from a few months back about the guy who was involved having passed away.

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Well, tonight was an instant reply for the Little Lotto....."technical difficulties".

                              Guess they didn't get the machine fixed in a day.

                              tiggs95,

                              Search this site or the internet for "Pennsylvania lottery scandal". In fact, I think there's soemrhing in the News forum from a few months back about the guy who was involved having passed away.

                              Nobody won the Lil lotto jackpot tonight so i guess by your post the fix wasn't in. It was an equipment failure maybe it was operator error.

                              In Maryland they will not be showing live televised drawings on Sunday nights during football season. There is no live televised drawings on Saturday midday because of cartoons some Fed law which states no gambling activities can be aired while children's programing is scheduled nor are the Saturday midday drawings archived on the MD lottery website TelePrompTer viewer.

                              There are no televised live drawing whenever there is a national live event taking place during the times when MD lottery should be drawing the balls.

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