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Posted: January 6, 2010, 10:43 am - IP Logged

rdgrnr,

"When you got a hunch bet a bunch"

- Vegas saying

jrosina,

Of all the lottery players out there, let's take those who believe lotteries are not random as a subset.

Now, what percentage of that subset have hit jackpots, or even 5 + 0 in the 5 + 1 games consistently? Obvioulsy not enough to concern the lotteries as the games are still available to be played.

But let me clue you in on something - the lotteries LOVE those kind of players because they play a lot more, i.e. $$$$$.  Where the average shmo bets $1 on a QP (A buck and a dream) someone who is sure they can prove such a game is not random will put up a lot more than that in their belief that it is not random. And 70 to 80% of the time the shmo that played the dollar QP wins.

No matter what someone's opinion is no opinion can refute results.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

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There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Coin Toss I had a good friend from high school in the 50's who was the pit boss at the Luxor the pyramid casino across from the MGM..He ran the card room so not shure if it's pit boss?..He's retired now but was a good card player when we was kid's..He's got $$$$$$ and I don't..:):)..But will have soon when my numbers come in...

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      Play what's Hot: Not what's Not! Thumbs Up

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        tiggs95,

        Card rooms are a littlee different, some are like a concession within a casino.

        The guys who run the card rooms are card room managers.

        When I got to Vegas (way bacm, 1977) I was exploring things and had it narrowed down to being a crap dealer or a poker dealer, so went out and asked people in both jobs about them.

        The poker dealer I was talking to was from Montana, and asked me if I was. I asked him what that had to do with it, and he said most of the card room managers in town were from Montana and all picked their own dealers, brought them with them. (Poker was legal in Montana, even back then). Then he told me if you weren't from Montana it would be tough getting a job.

        Then as poker grew that got downplayed and they started hiring more people. Many of the card rooms made poker dealers shill the games on their break. Some even made them come in on their days off to shill. Some even had them come in on their days off to play, and if they said they didn't have the money they had them take out markers.

        That's why so many poker dealers became degenerate poker players.

        At least up until the early 1990s there were about 200 professional poker players in Vegas. They played for a living and that's all they did. So when a holiday was coming up they would approach a card room manager they knew very well (from playing in his room) and ask to be guaranteed a seat for two or three days, and they'd cut the manager in for a percentage of thier winnings.

        They knew the town would be loaded with tourists, many of whom thought of themselves as good poker players, and had no idea what they were up against.

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        Gambling maxim;

        You never know when you're up against a pro!

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          tiggs95,

          Card rooms are a littlee different, some are like a concession within a casino.

          The guys who run the card rooms are card room managers.

          When I got to Vegas (way bacm, 1977) I was exploring things and had it narrowed down to being a crap dealer or a poker dealer, so went out and asked people in both jobs about them.

          The poker dealer I was talking to was from Montana, and asked me if I was. I asked him what that had to do with it, and he said most of the card room managers in town were from Montana and all picked their own dealers, brought them with them. (Poker was legal in Montana, even back then). Then he told me if you weren't from Montana it would be tough getting a job.

          Then as poker grew that got downplayed and they started hiring more people. Many of the card rooms made poker dealers shill the games on their break. Some even made them come in on their days off to shill. Some even had them come in on their days off to play, and if they said they didn't have the money they had them take out markers.

          That's why so many poker dealers became degenerate poker players.

          At least up until the early 1990s there were about 200 professional poker players in Vegas. They played for a living and that's all they did. So when a holiday was coming up they would approach a card room manager they knew very well (from playing in his room) and ask to be guaranteed a seat for two or three days, and they'd cut the manager in for a percentage of thier winnings.

          They knew the town would be loaded with tourists, many of whom thought of themselves as good poker players, and had no idea what they were up against.

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          You never know when you're up against a pro!

          I like this maxim the best,  In the game of life this Maxim, applies, fit like a glove to this I say Yes, you nevWhat?er know???,

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            Thanks Coin Toss that was a great story and I learnd something new..Jim left for Vegas in 1961 when we was 21 and my sister said he was lookiong for me and I don't know if he wanted me to go with him or not?..I'm glad I never saw him at the time we was both wild,as I met my wife now of 47 years and would have missed out of a great relationship with ther..If it wasen't for her I'm sure I would have been dead by now..I've been out to Vegas a few times but don't think I could have been any good out there?..What I see on TV them card players are sharp and I guess always looking for a pigon and I would have been a good one for them to take..

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              rdgrnr,

              "When you got a hunch bet a bunch"

              - Vegas saying

              jrosina,

              Of all the lottery players out there, let's take those who believe lotteries are not random as a subset.

              Now, what percentage of that subset have hit jackpots, or even 5 + 0 in the 5 + 1 games consistently? Obvioulsy not enough to concern the lotteries as the games are still available to be played.

              But let me clue you in on something - the lotteries LOVE those kind of players because they play a lot more, i.e. $$$$$.  Where the average shmo bets $1 on a QP (A buck and a dream) someone who is sure they can prove such a game is not random will put up a lot more than that in their belief that it is not random. And 70 to 80% of the time the shmo that played the dollar QP wins.

              No matter what someone's opinion is no opinion can refute results.

              Yes, Coin Toss.   And those of us who are convinced that the lottery is not ramdom, look at the lottery with a different eye, we know!!!    So we don't do as much complaining and we seldom bellyache about not winning, it is not a thall, we know!

              We play what we can afford to Invest in a particular number (at least the wiser of us) for the Lottery Powers that be, who as you said "Loves  us"  and know what we represent in terms of income to the lottery,  they know what we represent; thus having to keep us happy too!  In that exchange of give and take is where we get back  our investments, sometimes a big chunk, sometimes not. I then go back to the well, with part of my winnings,  and before it runs out I win again. And so it goes.

              Maxim, Never underestimate the power of your opponent!

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                jrosina,

                "We play what we can afford to Invest in a particular number (at leastthe wiser of us) for the Lottery Powers that be, who as you said"Loves  us"  and know what we represent in terms of income to thelottery,  they know what we represent; thus having to keep us happy too!"

                Well, when I see even just a few of these "smart" players you mention popping jackpots or 5 + 0 consistently I might believe it.

                The word "invest" when used with any type of gambling is the sign of a degenreate gambler. It's very common in poker and table games. "I wasn't sure I wanted to invest any more in the pot, in the game."

                I'd just like to see a study of what the average person who knows the lottery is not random blows $$$ before they admit that it is.

                "Maxim, Never underestimate the power of your opponent!"

                Indeed. Especially when the opponent is the lottery and those who design games not to be random.

                Good Luck and may the Lottery Fairy smile on you.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                    I believe the only winners in lottery are the ones who hit the big jackpots,and women..

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                      People betting 6 and 8 systems walk away losers trying to beat crap tables.

                      The odds against 6 and 8 are 6:5 on the Pass Line and 7:6 on a place bet.

                      Casinos make fortunes because people think they will play 6 & 8 system and win.

                      Yet people insist they willl beat the lottery with a "system" when the odds are in the tens and hundreds of millions to one.

                      Most people that want you to believe that are selling a sytem, selling tickets, or egomaniacs.

                      In any form of gambling the house is in the ego business just as much as the gambling business.

                      Know this.

                      Gamblers blow more money chasing a loss than any other way. The person who intended to spend $40 will spend another $240 trying to get the $40 back.

                      If someone wants their money back that bad, they had no business betting it to begone with.

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        Coin toss.

                        Thanks for the Education.  At least I know now what sort of Degenerate I am, when it comes to my investment in the digits,  I must say I don't do too badly not at all, but I guess it would be interesting to see how my other fellow degenerate-Investorees are doing.

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                          Oh, and by the way; it's The Power of The Lottery Big wigs that I am not understimating.

                          And for heaven sakes don't sound so angry it is only paper Moneywhich is money backed by confidence, it used to be backed by  gold then it was a silver certificate, now it's confidence that backs our Dollar.   Stay Blessed.

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                            Not angry at all.

                            Just stating what I"ve seen after millions of rolls of dice and thousands of people with systems.

                            Pass line and come bets on a crap table are the only bets that exist that pay true odds, yet the people betting them still get beat.

                            To think lotto is beatable is a bit is nuts. Any other approach than a buck and a dream is nuts. 

                            I guess you missed the 60 Minutes interview with Steve Wynn when he was asaked how many winners he has seen over the years and he said none.

                            Of course lotto is a little different there, but it's still pure luck.

                            People track numbers and plot them and make predictions and actually play a few. Then someone gets a misprint like the latest Powerball winner, the Lottery Fairy says "Today is your day", and they get the jackpot check.

                            Funny in an ironic way.

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Coin toss, maybe we agree on something, you see I play power ball once in a very blue moon, I don't play lotto million or its up to a gazillion-million games, once in a Pink moon I play mega. 

                              I stick with what I have some Idea about, which is the 3 numbers and the 4 those have been very good to me, and I am not the ungrateful sort; foolish sometimes but stupid hardly ever.  I dont believe that those games can be pen-and-papered.  So I stay clear away.  Coin toss I like that you have a brilliant mind, I rather have a disagreement with a brilliant mind than with a stupid person anyday of the week.  Stay Blessed!

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