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Half the numbers ...Half of the time guaranteed ...sound good to you?

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WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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Posted: November 25, 2009, 10:38 am - IP Logged

   This is a nice break from P3 and the same old ....same old.

   Trying to come up with a crisp new way of looking at Pick 4 is a breath of fresh air.  

 

                   Getting us all the way down to only 1 unknown digit.

 

   So.... Online play we are only talking $22.50 instead of 45.00 .....to get us all the way down to only one unknown digit.

 almost Half the time (43% +/-) we are not counting on "LUCK"....  but the pure Math of it all.  

 

           I really like it when we can find some sort of solid ground in these games!  

 

            It's a good place to start normal filters ....and gamble some from that base.     

 

 Around half the time we are .....Guaranteed up to a point at least  (75%)...... knowing 3 outta' 4 of the digits. 

 

                       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

                              Now we can start to use our normal filters on that 4th. digit . 

 

                                Ga. Eve in the last 6 months has had 71 doubles in Pick 4.  

 9958 7565 2868 6648 1255   4047 1868 1031 1126 7297 6681 6977 8983 9359 8718 8311 5223 2932 7388 1187 7565 5951 6334 2627 5549 0107 9954 0028 2636 6647 3595 0609 0188 0552 7996 0083 0079 8010 8087 7437 5350 5753 0898 1841 9689 0085 4909 9259 1565 9226 4955 0533 7101 2155 4311 7732 5299 9291 5797 8411 6447 4457 2432 9249 1951 8112 2295 7494 1233 9722 1033 6632 2565 7299 5880 2767

   One normal filter 

 Notice the last 5 doubles were all High Doubles 99,55,88,66,55,,,,,,  Nice way to cut our plays down by another HALF..... perhaps.   It's a plan.  

  Other filters will come into play too ...of course.  At least now.....we are down to 11.25 online plays.  Not too bad.  

 

 

                                         Anyone have any tracking tricks for Pairs? 

                                               45 single pairs ....... Hmmmmm  

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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    Hey there  Buddy ---- long time no see..

    hope you got in some sailing this summer--the lake was up good

    here are some pairs for you...

    hit 100% in P4 (except in the rare numbers of course)

    20 pairs

    15 16 17 19 20 23 24 28 30 34 38 40 48 56 57 59 67 69 79 80

    ez

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      Posted: November 25, 2009, 12:11 pm - IP Logged

      Win D

      if you use the last 15 days, find all 4 digit comb that have one touch. usually around 330. Ky mid today 331 comb to work with

      this will produce the winning box roughly 80%. filter as deeply as you want.

       

      50/50 double or not to eliminate roughly half. ky mid, my guess, no double 191 left

       

      long out pair? 75 out 158 days leaves me 27 comb to chose from

      65 and 05 are out fairly long also

       

      today 6705 str mid day

       ejoy your posts.

       

      p8

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        Posted: November 25, 2009, 12:16 pm - IP Logged

        you gone steel my idea and make it like its yours!! Angry

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          Posted: November 25, 2009, 12:18 pm - IP Logged

          Too bad, I'm a step ahead with this method.

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            you gone steel my idea and make it like its yours!! Angry

               I "gone and steel"  ......      LOL 

             

              OH no !   You mean I done gone and..... stole-I-fied ..... your number reckoning?   LOL    


                Dang !    Crazy 

             

             

            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                   Win d    

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              Not really mad. Glad someone has figured it out but I'm on to new and better things.  Hint: Exclusionary Cons

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                Posted: November 25, 2009, 4:18 pm - IP Logged

                  Grady, thanks for those pairs ......Good to hear from you stranger ......  and yes i got a good bit of sailing in over the summer....in between the RAIN Storms. This is the wettest drought I ever saw. LOL    

                 

                   About that 4th digit.....  it can  show up in any position of course. So how do we know how to ID that 4th digit??

                 

                     How about this .....?

                         1138  3811 1381..........    other than the double digits ..... lets always look at the digit on the far right as the 4th digit.     Using the numbers above .....the 4th digit would be the digit 8.   No matter what spot it shows up in..... always the one on the right. 

                 

                 We can apply our filters that way ...... Even/High /Low /Odd ........ and even position 1,2,3, 4      and track that as well.

                 

                 

                The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                       Win d    

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                  Posted: November 25, 2009, 4:25 pm - IP Logged

                   Never said anything about you paying ...."anyone"  LOL  

                   I was saying...... " Would you pay that much to get 3 of the numbers ....... to get 3 outta' 4 of the numbers in Pick 4. "  

                   

                                  It's all in your perspective..... and how you put things isn't it?

                                    Don't poo poo it too fast because it really is what it seems ...... a simple way of looking at a very hard and complex game. Pick Four has one advantage over its sister game of Pick 3. That advantage is the fact that doubles only hit in P3 about 27% of the time.  In P4 we do a lot better. Playing doubles only ....there is a much better chance of hitting a double. Doubles make up almost half the 10,000 chart.  Actually, there are 5040 singles in P4......and 4,320 Doubles.

                         So, about 50% of the time we will lose to either a Single Number ....or one of the other very RARE groups .     ......but the rest of the time we are looking at Doubles ! 

                   

                          In a perfect world each month with pick 4 we should end up with 15 singles .....and 15 doubles ..... but in the real world .....we will have to make due with only 12 or 13 Doubles each month ...not 15.

                   

                                  Keeping it simple ........ we will get a double around every other draw.   We'll take that.  

                   

                            So, about HALF the time the number that day will start off with one of the double pairs below.

                   

                   11x x

                   22x x

                  33x x

                  44x x

                  55x x

                  66x x

                  77x x

                  88x x

                  99x x

                  00x x

                   

                     If we wheel one of 9 digits for the 3rd digit ......... we will have our 3 digit that day.... guaranteed !  So, we won't have to "PAY" the $50.00 after all...... It's only going to be $45.00 ( I padded it a little)

                   For 45 bucks we can covers all of them and guarantee ourself hitting at least 3 of the 4 digits.    

                   

                    There it is ..... The guaranteed System to have 3 of 4 digits around HALF the time in Pick 4.

                   

                                          Half the time we have 75% of the number covered.  

                   

                            So...... the first 3 digits are as easy as falling off a log ...... it's that 4th digit   

                   

                                                             That 4th digit is the one you should pay for.

                                                                     That's the expensive one. 

                   

                         Now ..... I'll pay anyone 50.00 bucks .....(not for 3 digits) ...but for just that one 4th. digit.  

                   

                          Anyway....that's may case for playing the doubles each day..... starting off with those 10 double pairs ......instead of starting off with 45 single number pairs. 10 is a lot better than 45 ......and its automatic up to 3 of the 4 digits.    

                   

                  Chaz, I am missing something in this "If we wheel one of 9 digits for the 3rd digit ......... we will have our 3 digit that day.... ". My old brain is refusing to co-operate. Please explain or PM me.

                  also, are these all the double boxes....

                  0012110222013301440155016601770188019901
                  0013110322033302440255026602770288029902
                  0014110422043304440355036603770388039903
                  0015110522053305440555046604770488049904
                  0016110622063306440655066605770588059905
                  0017110722073307440755076607770688069906
                  0018110822083308440855086608770888079907
                  0019110922093309440955096609770988099908
                  0023112322133312441255126612771288129912
                  0024112422143314441355136613771388139913
                  0025112522153315441555146614771488149914
                  0026112622163316441655166615771588159915
                  0027112722173317441755176617771688169916
                  0028112822183318441855186618771888179917
                  0029112922193319441955196619771988199918
                  0034113422343324442355236623772388239923
                  0035113522353325442555246624772488249924
                  0036113622363326442655266625772588259925
                  0037113722373327442755276627772688269926
                  0038113822383328442855286628772888279927
                  0039113922393329442955296629772988299928
                  0045114522453345443555346634773488349934
                  0046114622463346443655366635773588359935
                  0047114722473347443755376637773688369936
                  0048114822483348443855386638773888379937
                  0049114922493349443955396639773988399938
                  0056115622563356445655466645774588459945
                  0057115722573357445755476647774688469946
                  0058115822583358445855486648774888479947
                  0059115922593359445955496649774988499948
                  0067116722673367446755676657775688569956
                  0068116822683368446855686658775888579957
                  0069116922693369446955696659775988599958
                  0078117822783378447855786678776888679967
                  0079117922793379447955796679776988699968
                  0089118922893389448955896689778988799978
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                    There is no reason to play them str8 unless you have 3 or 4 that looks really good to u

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                      payout is double

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                         HI Bob !  Yes.... thats right.  We start off each day by deciding on playing just the doubles .....or parts thereof.

                         Then,,, we could play all 9 digits in 3rd postion or 3rd digit choice actually....or parts thereof ....again.

                           We would then have 3 of the 4 digits each time. 75% of the end winning double number.


                             Lots better than having to start off with the 45 single number pairs thats for sure? Just staying with the 10 doubles as a starting place at the least.

                             Not only do doubles pay twice as much ..... they are 2 times more prone to STRAIGHT hits as well.  

                         

                                          Starting with 45 pairs ......or the 10 double pairs .....   The doubles are better.

                         

                           Those are the 360 Box doubles you posted up there ..... times 12 ways = 4,320 Straight Doubles.

                         

                           Of course we could always really push the envelope and play all of them online for $90.00 bucks and win 187.50 ......................   or 375.00 or 750.00   thats .25 or .50 or 1.00 respectively. 

                         

                               

                         

                         

                        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                               Win d    

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                          I sure hope they pass the legislation in December to allow online gambling again.  Then we can play like you suggest.  I know a lot of us are looking forward to it.

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                            sure way to loose money Win D . Remember how many times you can play off of 1 double hit? right...

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                              FYI..... Ga Eve ....    The  last 11 doubles in a row had Short Sums of 5 or less ! With the exception of short sum 2. 

                                  That leaves us with missing Short Sums ..... 2, 6,7,8,9  

                                  There's a 50/50 filter for me at least.  Nothing but high Short sums for the next double + the 2 sum.

                               

                                 That leaves us with these 176 box doubles below.....of which I like 00,,and 44 the best. 

                                 0015, 0016, 0017, 0018, 0024, 0025, 0026, 0027, 0034, 0035, 0036, 0039, 0045, 0048, 0057, 0079, 0089, 1104, 1105, 1106, 1107, 1123, 1124, 1125, 1128, 1134, 1137, 1146, 1159, 1168, 1169, 1178, 1179, 1189, 2203, 2204, 2205, 2208, 2213, 2214, 2217, 2235, 2239, 2248, 2249, 2257, 2258, 2259, 2267, 2268, 2269, 2278, 3301, 3302, 3306, 3312, 3315, 3319, 3324, 3328, 3329, 3346, 3347, 3348, 3349, 3356, 3357, 3358, 3367, 3379, 4401, 4408, 4409, 4413, 4417, 4418, 4419, 4426, 4427, 4428, 4429, 4435, 4436, 4437, 4438, 4456, 4459, 4468, 5502, 5506, 5507, 5508, 5509, 5516, 5517, 5518, 5524, 5526, 5527, 5534, 5536, 5539, 5548, 5579, 5589, 6604, 6605, 6607, 6613, 6614, 6615, 6619, 6623, 6624, 6625, 6628, 6634, 6637, 6659, 6678, 6679, 6689, 7702, 7703, 7704, 7705, 7708, 7712, 7713, 7714, 7723, 7726, 7735, 7739, 7748, 7749, 7758, 7759, 7768, 7769, 8801, 8802, 8803, 8806, 8812, 8815, 8819, 8824, 8829, 8837, 8839, 8846, 8847, 8849, 8856, 8857, 8867, 8879, 9901, 9904, 9908, 9913, 9917, 9918, 9926, 9927, 9928, 9935, 9936, 9937, 9938, 9945, 9946, 9947, 9956, 9968

                               

                                 The oldest of those 00 and 44 are ........

                                                                4413 4418 4405 4439 4468 4419              0013 0049 0025 

                               

                               

                              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                     Win d