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Posted: December 5, 2009, 1:12 pm - IP Logged

When mostly quickpicks win?  This mostly refers to pick 5 and 6 games, there do seem to be some that can pick 3 or 4 on a fairly consistent basis.

 

That is the question.

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    Posted: December 5, 2009, 1:54 pm - IP Logged

    Obviously: To Win! LOL!

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      When mostly quickpicks win?  This mostly refers to pick 5 and 6 games, there do seem to be some that can pick 3 or 4 on a fairly consistent basis.

       

      That is the question.

      The difference between the number of winners using quick picks and manual selection isn't that great. And it also depends upon the number of people that play quick picks vs the number that select manually.

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        Posted: December 5, 2009, 2:23 pm - IP Logged

        When mostly quickpicks win?  This mostly refers to pick 5 and 6 games, there do seem to be some that can pick 3 or 4 on a fairly consistent basis.

         

        That is the question.

        Have you not heard players after buying some auto/quick picks say "These numbers are lousy, I could have picked better myself."?  Or after a drawing say "I knew those numbers were losers, I should have picked my own" or "I had a hunch those numbers were going to hit, I should have played them". 

        I could go on but I think I've made my point.

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          Posted: December 5, 2009, 6:08 pm - IP Logged

          The difference between the number of winners using quick picks and manual selection isn't that great. And it also depends upon the number of people that play quick picks vs the number that select manually.

          Au contraire. That's just your opinion.

          These are the results of the Illinois Pick 5 game for 2008 and thus far in 2009, which I'm using as an example because there is a drawing every day. This includes shared jackpots. QP = Quick Picks, PS = Player's Selections.

          These were the 2008 results:

          146 Jackpots

          120 QP    82.19%

          91 PS       75.8%

          2009

          To date:

          144 Jackpots  

          121 QP    84.02%

          80 PS       55.55%

          So for the last year and 11 months combined;

          290 Jackpots 

          241 QP     83.10%

          171 PS     70.95%

          If you go to the Mega Millions or Powerball websites on the FAQ page you will see it stated that 70% or more of the winners, and ticket sales, are quick picks.

          Granted that's one state and one game, but pick a lottery game amnd track it and see what you find.

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          Re: the question of the OP, I'd say one of the biggest reasons people try to pick numbers is simply ego. One example of that is someone hitting a jackpot and saying they played birth dates and ages of every one in their family. People hear that and think, "If it worked for them, it will work for me."

          Gambling is gambling....when I worked in casinos and we had known "Georges" (good tippers) come up to a cold table we'd tell them the table had been cold all night and the players were getting slaughtered. Next thing they would say is, "Give me the dice, I'LL CHANGE THAT!"

          Invariably, $500 or $1,000 later the same players would say, "Why didn't you !@#$%^& tell me the table was cold!"

          Any gambling establishment is in the ego business just as much as whatever games they offer. This is why gamblers blow so much money chasing a losing bet. The person that had $40 play money in a casino will blow $300 trying to recover the original $40.A person who blew $10 on scratchers will spend another $40 trying to get the $10 back.

          Another is the superstition that if you stick with a set of numbers and skip playing them one day that's the day they will hit.

          Another reason people play numbers they've picked is because they themselves have either developed a system or they are using someone else's system and are in absolute denial about the fact that it just doesn't work.

          Whether a lottery player wins with their own numbers or a quick pick when it comes right down to it it's just luck, nothing else.

          Lep





          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: December 5, 2009, 7:46 pm - IP Logged

            When mostly quickpicks win?  This mostly refers to pick 5 and 6 games, there do seem to be some that can pick 3 or 4 on a fairly consistent basis.

             

            That is the question.

            Well

            The good news is.... The set of numbers that I play regularly, ( and forgive me if ive said this before) the set that I will play forever  started out as a quick pick set.  It didn't win, but I liked the numbers and I play them. as my regular set now.  I originally checked their history and they have hit in patterns quite a bit.  I KNOW they will hit together some day and I will be there to cash it in  yeah!!!!!

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              Posted: December 6, 2009, 3:37 am - IP Logged

              Au contraire. That's just your opinion.

              These are the results of the Illinois Pick 5 game for 2008 and thus far in 2009, which I'm using as an example because there is a drawing every day. This includes shared jackpots. QP = Quick Picks, PS = Player's Selections.

              These were the 2008 results:

              146 Jackpots

              120 QP    82.19%

              91 PS       75.8%

              2009

              To date:

              144 Jackpots  

              121 QP    84.02%

              80 PS       55.55%

              So for the last year and 11 months combined;

              290 Jackpots 

              241 QP     83.10%

              171 PS     70.95%

              If you go to the Mega Millions or Powerball websites on the FAQ page you will see it stated that 70% or more of the winners, and ticket sales, are quick picks.

              Granted that's one state and one game, but pick a lottery game amnd track it and see what you find.

              ______________________________________

              Re: the question of the OP, I'd say one of the biggest reasons people try to pick numbers is simply ego. One example of that is someone hitting a jackpot and saying they played birth dates and ages of every one in their family. People hear that and think, "If it worked for them, it will work for me."

              Gambling is gambling....when I worked in casinos and we had known "Georges" (good tippers) come up to a cold table we'd tell them the table had been cold all night and the players were getting slaughtered. Next thing they would say is, "Give me the dice, I'LL CHANGE THAT!"

              Invariably, $500 or $1,000 later the same players would say, "Why didn't you !@#$%^& tell me the table was cold!"

              Any gambling establishment is in the ego business just as much as whatever games they offer. This is why gamblers blow so much money chasing a losing bet. The person that had $40 play money in a casino will blow $300 trying to recover the original $40.A person who blew $10 on scratchers will spend another $40 trying to get the $10 back.

              Another is the superstition that if you stick with a set of numbers and skip playing them one day that's the day they will hit.

              Another reason people play numbers they've picked is because they themselves have either developed a system or they are using someone else's system and are in absolute denial about the fact that it just doesn't work.

              Whether a lottery player wins with their own numbers or a quick pick when it comes right down to it it's just luck, nothing else.

              Lep





              Regarding the Mega Millions / Powerball figures, thats what I meant in second sentance. If more people are playing QPs and there are jackpot winners, then its no surprise most wins come from the QP selections. If the situation were reversed then most wins would come from the PS selection...well I would hope so.

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                Au contraire. That's just your opinion.

                These are the results of the Illinois Pick 5 game for 2008 and thus far in 2009, which I'm using as an example because there is a drawing every day. This includes shared jackpots. QP = Quick Picks, PS = Player's Selections.

                These were the 2008 results:

                146 Jackpots

                120 QP    82.19%

                91 PS       75.8%

                2009

                To date:

                144 Jackpots  

                121 QP    84.02%

                80 PS       55.55%

                So for the last year and 11 months combined;

                290 Jackpots 

                241 QP     83.10%

                171 PS     70.95%

                If you go to the Mega Millions or Powerball websites on the FAQ page you will see it stated that 70% or more of the winners, and ticket sales, are quick picks.

                Granted that's one state and one game, but pick a lottery game amnd track it and see what you find.

                ______________________________________

                Re: the question of the OP, I'd say one of the biggest reasons people try to pick numbers is simply ego. One example of that is someone hitting a jackpot and saying they played birth dates and ages of every one in their family. People hear that and think, "If it worked for them, it will work for me."

                Gambling is gambling....when I worked in casinos and we had known "Georges" (good tippers) come up to a cold table we'd tell them the table had been cold all night and the players were getting slaughtered. Next thing they would say is, "Give me the dice, I'LL CHANGE THAT!"

                Invariably, $500 or $1,000 later the same players would say, "Why didn't you !@#$%^& tell me the table was cold!"

                Any gambling establishment is in the ego business just as much as whatever games they offer. This is why gamblers blow so much money chasing a losing bet. The person that had $40 play money in a casino will blow $300 trying to recover the original $40.A person who blew $10 on scratchers will spend another $40 trying to get the $10 back.

                Another is the superstition that if you stick with a set of numbers and skip playing them one day that's the day they will hit.

                Another reason people play numbers they've picked is because they themselves have either developed a system or they are using someone else's system and are in absolute denial about the fact that it just doesn't work.

                Whether a lottery player wins with their own numbers or a quick pick when it comes right down to it it's just luck, nothing else.

                Lep





                Well Put!  In the past I've spent $100 chasing down $20 that I'd lost....without even realizing it.  After reading your post, it really put me to thinking....geez....never considered the fact that EGO could be the reason for my stupidity.  I always looked at it as just winning my money back...lol...but you are so correct.  Thanks for posting that.  I think I really needed to read it.

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                  When mostly quickpicks win?  This mostly refers to pick 5 and 6 games, there do seem to be some that can pick 3 or 4 on a fairly consistent basis.

                   

                  That is the question.

                  It really does come down to luck in the jackpot games. I pick my own numbers for 2 reasons. Because I like to "play" with the numbers, and I don't want to take a chance with a QP that's a weird combination like 1-2-3-4-5-50.

                  In fact, there are times that I will use LP's RNG to play numbers. But, I can pick which combinations I want to use. Can't do that when buying a QP. What you get is what you get.

                  I think most people that buy QP's are just in the game so to speak, and don't have or want to take the time to do number workouts. At work there are about 15 or 20 people in a Tx Lotto pool, which I haven't participated in. I told the guy running it that he should make sure to put all the numbers in the matrix in play. He said he just doesn't have time to fool with it. He has a hard enough time just collecting the money. (Which is why I don't participate, LOL).

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                    It really does come down to luck in the jackpot games. I pick my own numbers for 2 reasons. Because I like to "play" with the numbers, and I don't want to take a chance with a QP that's a weird combination like 1-2-3-4-5-50.

                    In fact, there are times that I will use LP's RNG to play numbers. But, I can pick which combinations I want to use. Can't do that when buying a QP. What you get is what you get.

                    I think most people that buy QP's are just in the game so to speak, and don't have or want to take the time to do number workouts. At work there are about 15 or 20 people in a Tx Lotto pool, which I haven't participated in. I told the guy running it that he should make sure to put all the numbers in the matrix in play. He said he just doesn't have time to fool with it. He has a hard enough time just collecting the money. (Which is why I don't participate, LOL).

                    Well said rcbbuckeye!

                    I prefer to choose my own numbers for among other reasons because I just don't like the combos QP's come up with.

                    I agree that most people "are just in the game so to speak". Everyone I know who plays the lottery is more concerned that they have their ticket(s) for the upcoming drawing  than what their actual numbers are.

                    There is also a very small group of people at my work who play in a Lotto Pool.......LOL let's just say I know the person who buys the tickets very well and have mentioned to him several times about this forum and what I have learned. All he's concerned with is going out of his way to buy QP's from very influential areas because someone convinced him that's where the winning tickets come from. HAHAHA LOL why I would rather buy my own!

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                      Well Put!  In the past I've spent $100 chasing down $20 that I'd lost....without even realizing it.  After reading your post, it really put me to thinking....geez....never considered the fact that EGO could be the reason for my stupidity.  I always looked at it as just winning my money back...lol...but you are so correct.  Thanks for posting that.  I think I really needed to read it.

                      dopey1779,

                      It's not anyone's stupidity, it's just the nature of a lot gamblers. People who play and lose and say, "I want my money back" should have never played in the first place.

                      rcbuckeye,
                      I think most people that buy QP's are just in the game so to speak, anddon't have or want to take the time to do number workouts

                      ca dreamin*,
                      I agree that most people "are just in the game so to speak". Everyone I know who plays the lottery is more concerned that they have their ticket(s) for the upcoming drawing  than what their actual numbers are.

                      You guys have me wondering how many people who play only QPs even know how to fill out a playslip!

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        dopey1779,

                        It's not anyone's stupidity, it's just the nature of a lot gamblers. People who play and lose and say, "I want my money back" should have never played in the first place.

                        rcbuckeye,
                        I think most people that buy QP's are just in the game so to speak, anddon't have or want to take the time to do number workouts

                        ca dreamin*,
                        I agree that most people "are just in the game so to speak". Everyone I know who plays the lottery is more concerned that they have their ticket(s) for the upcoming drawing  than what their actual numbers are.

                        You guys have me wondering how many people who play only QPs even know how to fill out a playslip!

                        LOL Coin Toss! The mystery has been solved! More people play QP's because they don't know how to fill out the playslip!!!OMG LOL

                        Seriously I think rcbbuckeye had it right when he said people "don't have or want to take the time to do number workouts". It seems like everyone plays the Mega game but I have never heard anyone talk about what numbers to play. They focus on the jackpot amount and just make sure they have their ticket.  More than once I've been at the gas station behind people who will have a long list of numbers to play for pick 3 and then will ask for a QP for MM. Go figure!


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                          Posted: December 6, 2009, 11:37 pm - IP Logged

                          When mostly quickpicks win?  This mostly refers to pick 5 and 6 games, there do seem to be some that can pick 3 or 4 on a fairly consistent basis.

                           

                          That is the question.

                          It's an illusion. The reason QPs win more often is because the majority of the bets are QPs, therefore more wins. This was talked about on the LP for years now.

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                            Early lotteries were really raffles, you bought a numbered ticket and waited to learn what was drawn.   You were stuck with what they gave you, no way to change the hand you were dealt.

                            People wanted the chance to make their own luck by picking their own numbers. 

                            Thanks to modern lotteries the number choices you make determine whether you win or lose.  Can't get better than that.

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                              LOL Coin Toss! The mystery has been solved! More people play QP's because they don't know how to fill out the playslip!!!OMG LOL

                              Seriously I think rcbbuckeye had it right when he said people "don't have or want to take the time to do number workouts". It seems like everyone plays the Mega game but I have never heard anyone talk about what numbers to play. They focus on the jackpot amount and just make sure they have their ticket.  More than once I've been at the gas station behind people who will have a long list of numbers to play for pick 3 and then will ask for a QP for MM. Go figure!

                              For a lot of people (including myself), when they believe the number range for a game is too high, they feel that it's hopeless to bother picking numbers and instead just play qp. For example the Powerball is out of 59 numbers and 39 ball numbers...that's a game I feel is pointless to even waste money on, let alone time. So I can understand where the people who play QPs on MM are coming from. I don't know if it's a question of laziness or just the feeling of being overwhelmed.