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# Using vtracs to work out a STR8 in your state.

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Most of us know what vtracs are, and most have used them to work out plays for P3 and P4.  I'm trying to work out a way to narrow down vtrac strings and possibly get a str8 out of the deal.  :)  Keep in mind that each vtrac string permutation has 16 str8 numbers.

First let's take a look at the catagories of vtracs, and how many numbers are in each catagory.

This one is pretty easy.  This catagory has the least amount of str8s in it.  Of the 5 quad vtracs, there are 16 numbers in each, totaling 80 str8s.

Triples

This catagory has 20 vtrac strings (boxed). For each string there are 4 possible combos.  The total number of str8s in this catagory are 1280.

(20 X 4 X 16 = 1280)

Double/Doubles

This catagory has 10 vtrac strings (boxed).  Each vtrac has possible 6 permutations.  So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 960.

(10 X 6 X 16 = 960)

Doubles

This catagory has the largest number of total strings (30 boxed).  Each vtrac has 12 permutations. So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 5760.

(12 X 30 X 16 = 5760)

Singles

This catagory has 5 vtrac strings (boxed). Each vtrac has 16 permutations.  So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 1920.

(5 X 16 X 24 = 1920)

Have I lost you all yet!?!?!?

The total from each catagory added up should equal 10,000.

Now that's the ground work.  You'll have to take a look at your state to see which vtrac is due.  Since the double vtracs have the most numbers, you can start there.  Once you find the longest out vtrac, then look at the str8 vtrac strings that have not fallen yet in your state.

I will use New Jersey as an example!  :)  Longest double vtrac out there is v2235.  Looking over the history of this vtrac there are 3 strings that have not show in the past year.  You can go back further to narrow the strings down, but again, this is just an example.  Here are the str8 strings that have not shown this year.

v2235 1124 1129 1174 1179 1624 1629 1674 1679 6124 6129 6174 6179 6624 6629 6674 6679

V2523 1412 1417 1462 1467 1912 1917 1962 1967 6412 6417 6462 6467 6912 6917 6962 6967

V2325 1214 1219 1264 1269 1714 1719 1764 1769 6214 6219 6264 6269 6714 6719 6764 6769

We're coming up on this vtrac soon.  Let's see if this works out.  You can also do this with any of the catagories.  For example v3335 in NJ is missing since Jan 5th!!  Now triple vtracs have far less numbers compared to double vtracs so you can expect the long skips to occur.  Try things like narrowing down the picks by keeping track of singles and doubles. When doubles are due, remove the singles from the strings, and so on.....

Hope this helps someone catch a str8 in YOUR state!!

Best of luck to everyone!

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 Posted: December 16, 2009, 10:42 am - IP Logged

Interesting Calabs !!

I will have to research,  I have never used vtrac but I am learning pulled all the vtrac numbers for p3 and p4.

The best of luck to you and hit BIG, you help so many of us!!!

Thank You

CJR~

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Most of us know what vtracs are, and most have used them to work out plays for P3 and P4.  I'm trying to work out a way to narrow down vtrac strings and possibly get a str8 out of the deal.  :)  Keep in mind that each vtrac string permutation has 16 str8 numbers.

First let's take a look at the catagories of vtracs, and how many numbers are in each catagory.

This one is pretty easy.  This catagory has the least amount of str8s in it.  Of the 5 quad vtracs, there are 16 numbers in each, totaling 80 str8s.

Triples

This catagory has 20 vtrac strings (boxed). For each string there are 4 possible combos.  The total number of str8s in this catagory are 1280.

(20 X 4 X 16 = 1280)

Double/Doubles

This catagory has 10 vtrac strings (boxed).  Each vtrac has possible 6 permutations.  So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 960.

(10 X 6 X 16 = 960)

Doubles

This catagory has the largest number of total strings (30 boxed).  Each vtrac has 12 permutations. So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 5760.

(12 X 30 X 16 = 5760)

Singles

This catagory has 5 vtrac strings (boxed). Each vtrac has 16 permutations.  So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 1920.

(5 X 16 X 24 = 1920)

Have I lost you all yet!?!?!?

The total from each catagory added up should equal 10,000.

Now that's the ground work.  You'll have to take a look at your state to see which vtrac is due.  Since the double vtracs have the most numbers, you can start there.  Once you find the longest out vtrac, then look at the str8 vtrac strings that have not fallen yet in your state.

I will use New Jersey as an example!  :)  Longest double vtrac out there is v2235.  Looking over the history of this vtrac there are 3 strings that have not show in the past year.  You can go back further to narrow the strings down, but again, this is just an example.  Here are the str8 strings that have not shown this year.

v2235 1124 1129 1174 1179 1624 1629 1674 1679 6124 6129 6174 6179 6624 6629 6674 6679

V2523 1412 1417 1462 1467 1912 1917 1962 1967 6412 6417 6462 6467 6912 6917 6962 6967

V2325 1214 1219 1264 1269 1714 1719 1764 1769 6214 6219 6264 6269 6714 6719 6764 6769

We're coming up on this vtrac soon.  Let's see if this works out.  You can also do this with any of the catagories.  For example v3335 in NJ is missing since Jan 5th!!  Now triple vtracs have far less numbers compared to double vtracs so you can expect the long skips to occur.  Try things like narrowing down the picks by keeping track of singles and doubles. When doubles are due, remove the singles from the strings, and so on.....

Hope this helps someone catch a str8 in YOUR state!!

Best of luck to everyone!

I should study this because I always get at least 2 numbers out of the Pick-4. Yesterday I play 1863 and and 6327 comb. and in the Midday I played 7920 and 6052 came in Ohio. If I could steady this a little more, I might hit something big, I have to learn how to use the System that you gave here. Thanks for sharing. Happy Holidays!

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Interesting Calabs !!

I will have to research,  I have never used vtrac but I am learning pulled all the vtrac numbers for p3 and p4.

The best of luck to you and hit BIG, you help so many of us!!!

Thank You

Thank you CJR100. And you are very welcome!!  Best of luck to you.

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I should study this because I always get at least 2 numbers out of the Pick-4. Yesterday I play 1863 and and 6327 comb. and in the Midday I played 7920 and 6052 came in Ohio. If I could steady this a little more, I might hit something big, I have to learn how to use the System that you gave here. Thanks for sharing. Happy Holidays!

You are most welcome Marcie...I hope is of some help you to.  Best of luck!!

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Thanks for this Calabs!  I've just started reading about pk3 vtracs in the VTRAC for Dummies post. Considering this is quite a few numbers are their any affordable software programs I could use to generate these numbers and catagorise them by vtrac? I have excel professional..hummm?

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Thanks for this Calabs!  I've just started reading about pk3 vtracs in the VTRAC for Dummies post. Considering this is quite a few numbers are their any affordable software programs I could use to generate these numbers and catagorise them by vtrac? I have excel professional..hummm?

Hi moneyquest.  I believe there are some software programs that deal with vtrac conversion, but I don't know the details of it.  Perhaps someone else could shed some light on this.  If you use Excel, you can generate your own list.  I know someone generated a spreadsheet that coverted the draw number into vtrac.  It should be relatively straightforward if you are well versed in Excel.  You're right, there are quite a few numbers (10000 str8s!), so breaking down into catagories in some way can help narrow down picks.  Best of luck to you.

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Most of us know what vtracs are, and most have used them to work out plays for P3 and P4.  I'm trying to work out a way to narrow down vtrac strings and possibly get a str8 out of the deal.  :)  Keep in mind that each vtrac string permutation has 16 str8 numbers.

First let's take a look at the catagories of vtracs, and how many numbers are in each catagory.

This one is pretty easy.  This catagory has the least amount of str8s in it.  Of the 5 quad vtracs, there are 16 numbers in each, totaling 80 str8s.

Triples

This catagory has 20 vtrac strings (boxed). For each string there are 4 possible combos.  The total number of str8s in this catagory are 1280.

(20 X 4 X 16 = 1280)

Double/Doubles

This catagory has 10 vtrac strings (boxed).  Each vtrac has possible 6 permutations.  So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 960.

(10 X 6 X 16 = 960)

Doubles

This catagory has the largest number of total strings (30 boxed).  Each vtrac has 12 permutations. So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 5760.

(12 X 30 X 16 = 5760)

Singles

This catagory has 5 vtrac strings (boxed). Each vtrac has 16 permutations.  So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 1920.

(5 X 16 X 24 = 1920)

Have I lost you all yet!?!?!?

The total from each catagory added up should equal 10,000.

Now that's the ground work.  You'll have to take a look at your state to see which vtrac is due.  Since the double vtracs have the most numbers, you can start there.  Once you find the longest out vtrac, then look at the str8 vtrac strings that have not fallen yet in your state.

I will use New Jersey as an example!  :)  Longest double vtrac out there is v2235.  Looking over the history of this vtrac there are 3 strings that have not show in the past year.  You can go back further to narrow the strings down, but again, this is just an example.  Here are the str8 strings that have not shown this year.

v2235 1124 1129 1174 1179 1624 1629 1674 1679 6124 6129 6174 6179 6624 6629 6674 6679

V2523 1412 1417 1462 1467 1912 1917 1962 1967 6412 6417 6462 6467 6912 6917 6962 6967

V2325 1214 1219 1264 1269 1714 1719 1764 1769 6214 6219 6264 6269 6714 6719 6764 6769

We're coming up on this vtrac soon.  Let's see if this works out.  You can also do this with any of the catagories.  For example v3335 in NJ is missing since Jan 5th!!  Now triple vtracs have far less numbers compared to double vtracs so you can expect the long skips to occur.  Try things like narrowing down the picks by keeping track of singles and doubles. When doubles are due, remove the singles from the strings, and so on.....

Hope this helps someone catch a str8 in YOUR state!!

Best of luck to everyone!

See what I mean about finding the missing vtrac... I mentioned in my original post that vtrac 3335 was missing since Jan 5th!!!  Had that string been played, you would have gotten a str8.

Tue, Dec 15, 2009 New Jersey Pick 4 Midday 2-2-2-9 v3335

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Another way to look at the strings is longest out, and tracking trends for the vtrac string.  For example, v2224 has been missing in New Jersey since July 13.  Now that 5 months missing.  Looking over the past 5 years history, that is the max skip for this vtrac.  So you can expect to see this vtrac soon.  To narrow down strings maybe use HOT/COLD.

HOT:   v4222

COLD: v2224

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Thanks Calabs for the observation. I have been working with vtraks in MI for a while now. In the pick four the most popular vtrak for the midday is v5421, it has fallen approx. 54 times in the last 3 years. That is at least once a month on average. Currently, it has been missing for more than 30 days. The two vtraks that have not fallen straight for this one are v1254, v5412 (again in the last three years). I am not sure if this will help someone, but a straight is worth the try. The other vtrak that loves to fall everywhere is v1234. You might want to see if it has fallen in your state recently, then see which STR8 has not fallen. I hit the four digit often using this method.

v1254; 0143, 0148, 0193, 0198, 0643, 0648, 0693, 0698, 5143, 5148, 5193, 5198, 5643, 5648, 5693, 5698

v5412; 4301, 4306, 4351, 4356, 4801, 4806, 4851, 4856, 9301, 9306, 9351, 9356, 9801, 9806, 9851, 9856

To filter it further, it helps to know which pairs, sums, etc. are due in your state.  Vtraks repeat often and it is good to know which ones are repeaters to help you know what to play. I am still amazed when I see people saying they have not hit the 4 digit. The 4 digit is often easier to hit than the three digit because the pairs fall quicker. If you play the 4 digit it is worth your while to look at the vtraks.

Thanks again Calabs, your insight is invaluable.

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Thanks Calabs for the observation. I have been working with vtraks in MI for a while now. In the pick four the most popular vtrak for the midday is v5421, it has fallen approx. 54 times in the last 3 years. That is at least once a month on average. Currently, it has been missing for more than 30 days. The two vtraks that have not fallen straight for this one are v1254, v5412 (again in the last three years). I am not sure if this will help someone, but a straight is worth the try. The other vtrak that loves to fall everywhere is v1234. You might want to see if it has fallen in your state recently, then see which STR8 has not fallen. I hit the four digit often using this method.

v1254; 0143, 0148, 0193, 0198, 0643, 0648, 0693, 0698, 5143, 5148, 5193, 5198, 5643, 5648, 5693, 5698

v5412; 4301, 4306, 4351, 4356, 4801, 4806, 4851, 4856, 9301, 9306, 9351, 9356, 9801, 9806, 9851, 9856

To filter it further, it helps to know which pairs, sums, etc. are due in your state.  Vtraks repeat often and it is good to know which ones are repeaters to help you know what to play. I am still amazed when I see people saying they have not hit the 4 digit. The 4 digit is often easier to hit than the three digit because the pairs fall quicker. If you play the 4 digit it is worth your while to look at the vtraks.

Thanks again Calabs, your insight is invaluable.

You are very welcome mybolade, and thank you for the MI information. Hopefully someone in MI can use it to catch a win.... !!

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Most of us know what vtracs are, and most have used them to work out plays for P3 and P4.  I'm trying to work out a way to narrow down vtrac strings and possibly get a str8 out of the deal.  :)  Keep in mind that each vtrac string permutation has 16 str8 numbers.

First let's take a look at the catagories of vtracs, and how many numbers are in each catagory.

This one is pretty easy.  This catagory has the least amount of str8s in it.  Of the 5 quad vtracs, there are 16 numbers in each, totaling 80 str8s.

Triples

This catagory has 20 vtrac strings (boxed). For each string there are 4 possible combos.  The total number of str8s in this catagory are 1280.

(20 X 4 X 16 = 1280)

Double/Doubles

This catagory has 10 vtrac strings (boxed).  Each vtrac has possible 6 permutations.  So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 960.

(10 X 6 X 16 = 960)

Doubles

This catagory has the largest number of total strings (30 boxed).  Each vtrac has 12 permutations. So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 5760.

(12 X 30 X 16 = 5760)

Singles

This catagory has 5 vtrac strings (boxed). Each vtrac has 16 permutations.  So the total number of str8s in this catagory are 1920.

(5 X 16 X 24 = 1920)

Have I lost you all yet!?!?!?

The total from each catagory added up should equal 10,000.

Now that's the ground work.  You'll have to take a look at your state to see which vtrac is due.  Since the double vtracs have the most numbers, you can start there.  Once you find the longest out vtrac, then look at the str8 vtrac strings that have not fallen yet in your state.

I will use New Jersey as an example!  :)  Longest double vtrac out there is v2235.  Looking over the history of this vtrac there are 3 strings that have not show in the past year.  You can go back further to narrow the strings down, but again, this is just an example.  Here are the str8 strings that have not shown this year.

v2235 1124 1129 1174 1179 1624 1629 1674 1679 6124 6129 6174 6179 6624 6629 6674 6679

V2523 1412 1417 1462 1467 1912 1917 1962 1967 6412 6417 6462 6467 6912 6917 6962 6967

V2325 1214 1219 1264 1269 1714 1719 1764 1769 6214 6219 6264 6269 6714 6719 6764 6769

We're coming up on this vtrac soon.  Let's see if this works out.  You can also do this with any of the catagories.  For example v3335 in NJ is missing since Jan 5th!!  Now triple vtracs have far less numbers compared to double vtracs so you can expect the long skips to occur.  Try things like narrowing down the picks by keeping track of singles and doubles. When doubles are due, remove the singles from the strings, and so on.....

Hope this helps someone catch a str8 in YOUR state!!

Best of luck to everyone!

OK, no str8, but the longest out vtrac showed shortly after this post...!! A box is a box (v5322)!?!  LOL

Sun, Dec 20, 2009 New Jersey Pick 4 Midday 4-2-6-1

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