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Does your state lottery waste paper?

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Posted: February 14, 2010, 8:50 pm - IP Logged

I've noticed that Minnesota wastes paper on Pick 3 tickets. Instead of printing all of the played numbers on one ticket, they print A-NEW-TICKET-FOR-EVERY-SINGLE-ONE-OF-MY-PLAYS; even though I handed them a single play slip. They don't do it for the other games though; you'd think they could magically program the terminal to spit out one ticket.

I know Wisconsin does not do this, I hand the clerk one play slip, I get one back with all my plays on it.

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    Posted: February 14, 2010, 8:56 pm - IP Logged

    they (the states) are always the first one to tell us how to save and conserve. we go green they stay red.

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      Posted: February 14, 2010, 9:44 pm - IP Logged

      Of course.  Do as I say not as I do.

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        Posted: February 14, 2010, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

        Definitely not. At least not until later this year. Currently and for many previous years, Hoosier Lottery retailers use the Integra lottery terminals which print in very small text. The tickets we have are very plain. They're not graphical like a lot of other state lotteries are. Later this year, the Hoosier Lottery will be switching to Scientific Games Wave lottery terminals. I don't know how much more paper will be used then.

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          Posted: February 14, 2010, 10:27 pm - IP Logged

          for example if i played 123 -- 10 times i would want separate tickets. If you chose to cash a ticket that had 123 printed on it 10 times you'd be paying tax on an otherwise tax free ticket if they were purchased individually.

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            Posted: February 14, 2010, 10:35 pm - IP Logged

            for example if i played 123 -- 10 times i would want separate tickets. If you chose to cash a ticket that had 123 printed on it 10 times you'd be paying tax on an otherwise tax free ticket if they were purchased individually.

            thats a very good point.

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              Posted: February 14, 2010, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

              Four4me is correct. When I lived in NY years ago, I used to specifically ask the clerk to seperate multiple cash tickets/numbers. If you didn't ask, they'd put the all the sets of numbers on one ticket by default, thereby having you claim the winning tickets at the lottery office, which deducts taxes, leaving the player with a smaller win.

               

              I did this myself. I claimed ALL 3,000 bucks playing cash 3 with 6 tickets. The number was 984.

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                Posted: February 15, 2010, 1:19 am - IP Logged

                I've noticed that Minnesota wastes paper on Pick 3 tickets. Instead of printing all of the played numbers on one ticket, they print A-NEW-TICKET-FOR-EVERY-SINGLE-ONE-OF-MY-PLAYS; even though I handed them a single play slip. They don't do it for the other games though; you'd think they could magically program the terminal to spit out one ticket.

                I know Wisconsin does not do this, I hand the clerk one play slip, I get one back with all my plays on it.

                JADELottery,

                Illinois does the same thing.

                As four4me and joker17 pointed out, it's for your benefit as to getting taxed or not on winners.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

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                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: February 15, 2010, 10:47 am - IP Logged

                  If you had a couple of winners on one ticket you might not be able to cash it (1) due to the amount of money the store kept on hand  (2) if your winners exceeded the limit stores can cash out on a single ticket.  Seems a matter of convenience for players rather than paper waste.

                  If they printed all plays on on ticket, then you'd have to fill out multiple play slips to get individual numbers which would result in just as much wasted paper.  

                  Also no one is saying anything about wasted paper for scratchers which generates greater volume of paper waste.

                  Good luck to everyone!

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                    Posted: February 15, 2010, 11:37 am - IP Logged

                    i like how my state does it on stoping needless waste "tn"

                    "play it again" , online,2nd chance drawings for scratch offs that are losers

                    no need to mail the losers in for  2nd  chances,

                    always thinked that was a waste, why not do it online

                     

                    also Konane and everyone

                    , just go to some place like kroger,

                    a big grocery store always HAVE the money to cash your winning  tickets that are below the"max" retail limit

                     

                    if they EVER tell you they cant cash it due to lack of cash

                    tell them to go get all the money in their cash registers!

                    you get your money! they have lots of it

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                      Posted: February 15, 2010, 3:57 pm - IP Logged

                      TN saves paper with their playslips.

                      They're so thin and flimsy they're practically see-through.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Posted: February 15, 2010, 6:03 pm - IP Logged

                        for example if i played 123 -- 10 times i would want separate tickets. If you chose to cash a ticket that had 123 printed on it 10 times you'd be paying tax on an otherwise tax free ticket if they were purchased individually.

                        i agree....... i'd rather have my tickets seperate.... that way if i have played a number str8 5 or 6 times and it hits i wouldnt have to go to lottery headquaters and get taxed. i would just go to different stores in my area and cash them in tax free....

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                          Posted: February 15, 2010, 7:37 pm - IP Logged

                          What if I play pick 3 with 14 plays on one ticket and it hits 2 or 3 times?

                           

                          Will those be cashed as 2 or 3 separate or one payout?

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                            Posted: February 15, 2010, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

                            TN saves paper with their playslips.

                            They're so thin and flimsy they're practically see-through.

                            Ohio did the same thing, if you use a marker to mark your play slips and they are stacked the ink bleed through and leaves the slip below it unusable.

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                              Posted: February 15, 2010, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

                              for example if i played 123 -- 10 times i would want separate tickets. If you chose to cash a ticket that had 123 printed on it 10 times you'd be paying tax on an otherwise tax free ticket if they were purchased individually.

                              Excellent point!  They save on paper work by not taxing those individual tix.  It is costlier for the state to PAY  the salaries of state tax collectors than the time it takes to chase down the little >$600 (less than) taxables.  The state would rather just give you the money to spend on the local economy or re-gamble the money.

                              But these SOB statists are a petty greedy bunch,  remember when Bonus Match 5 was "taxes paid"?   No mas! WHY YOU ASK?  A taxi driver down in Bethesda MD. hit the BM5 6 times straight or more and they had to pay the taxes on a couple hundred thousand,  the next week it was back to

                               YOU PAY THE TAXES! 

                              Statist A$$hole$!

                              I stopped playing BM5 for more than $2 anymore.