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Does your state lottery waste paper?

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JADELottery

Native American Eagle Sun

MN
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Feb 14, 2010, 8:50 pm

I've noticed that Minnesota wastes paper on Pick 3 tickets. Instead of printing all of the played numbers on one ticket, they print A-NEW-TICKET-FOR-EVERY-SINGLE-ONE-OF-MY-PLAYS; even though I handed them a single play slip. They don't do it for the other games though; you'd think they could magically program the terminal to spit out one ticket.

I know Wisconsin does not do this, I hand the clerk one play slip, I get one back with all my plays on it.

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sully16

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Ringleader

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Feb 14, 2010, 8:56 pm

they (the states) are always the first one to tell us how to save and conserve. we go green they stay red.
emilyg

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Feb 14, 2010, 9:44 pm

Of course. Do as I say not as I do.

love to nibble those micey feet.
Guru101

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Feb 14, 2010, 9:51 pm

Definitely not. At least not until later this year. Currently and for many previous years, Hoosier Lottery retailers use the Integra lottery terminals which print in very small text. The tickets we have are very plain. They're not graphical like a lot of other state lotteries are. Later this year, the Hoosier Lottery will be switching to Scientific Games Wave lottery terminals. I don't know how much more paper will be used then.

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four4me

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Feb 14, 2010, 10:27 pm

for example if i played 123 -- 10 times i would want separate tickets. If you chose to cash a ticket that had 123 printed on it 10 times you'd be paying tax on an otherwise tax free ticket if they were purchased individually.

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sully16

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Ringleader

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Feb 14, 2010, 10:35 pm

Quote: Originally posted by four4me on Feb 14, 2010
for example if i played 123 -- 10 times i would want separate tickets. If you chose to cash a ticket that had 123 printed on it 10 times you'd be paying tax on an otherwise tax free ticket if they were purchased individually.

thats a very good point.
joker17

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Feb 14, 2010, 11:58 pm

Four4me is correct. When I lived in NY years ago, I used to specifically ask the clerk to seperate multiple cash tickets/numbers. If you didn't ask, they'd put the all the sets of numbers on one ticket by default, thereby having you claim the winning tickets at the lottery office, which deducts taxes, leaving the player with a smaller win.

I did this myself. I claimed ALL 3,000 bucks playing cash 3 with 6 tickets. The number was 984.
Coin Toss

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Feb 15, 2010, 1:19 am

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Feb 14, 2010
I've noticed that Minnesota wastes paper on Pick 3 tickets. Instead of printing all of the played numbers on one ticket, they print A-NEW-TICKET-FOR-EVERY-SINGLE-ONE-OF-MY-PLAYS; even though I handed them a single play slip. They don't do it for the other games though; you'd think they could magically program the terminal to spit out one ticket.

I know Wisconsin does not do this, I hand the clerk one play slip, I get one back with all my plays on it.

JADELottery,

Illinois does the same thing.

As four4me and joker17 pointed out, it's for your benefit as to getting taxed or not on winners.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
konane

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Feb 15, 2010, 10:47 am

If you had a couple of winners on one ticket you might not be able to cash it (1) due to the amount of money the store kept on hand (2) if your winners exceeded the limit stores can cash out on a single ticket. Seems a matter of convenience for players rather than paper waste.

If they printed all plays on on ticket, then you'd have to fill out multiple play slips to get individual numbers which would result in just as much wasted paper.

Also no one is saying anything about wasted paper for scratchers which generates greater volume of paper waste.

Have fun and the best of luck to everyone!
joshuacloak

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Feb 15, 2010, 11:37 am

i like how my state does it on stoping needless waste "tn"

"play it again" , online,2nd chance drawings for scratch offs that are losers

no need to mail the losers in for 2nd chances,

always thinked that was a waste, why not do it online

also Konane and everyone

, just go to some place like kroger,

a big grocery store always HAVE the money to cash your winning tickets that are below the"max" retail limit

if they EVER tell you they cant cash it due to lack of cash

tell them to go get all the money in their cash registers!

you get your money! they have lots of it
rdgrnr

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The Hall Of The Mountain Kings Tennessee
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Feb 15, 2010, 3:57 pm

TN saves paper with their playslips.

They're so thin and flimsy they're practically see-through.
grave

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Feb 15, 2010, 6:03 pm

Quote: Originally posted by four4me on Feb 14, 2010
for example if i played 123 -- 10 times i would want separate tickets. If you chose to cash a ticket that had 123 printed on it 10 times you'd be paying tax on an otherwise tax free ticket if they were purchased individually.

i agree....... i'd rather have my tickets seperate.... that way if i have played a number str8 5 or 6 times and it hits i wouldnt have to go to lottery headquaters and get taxed. i would just go to different stores in my area and cash them in tax free....

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bomatt

Georgia
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Feb 15, 2010, 7:37 pm

What if I play pick 3 with 14 plays on one ticket and it hits 2 or 3 times?

Will those be cashed as 2 or 3 separate or one payout?
RJOh

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Feb 15, 2010, 8:23 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Feb 15, 2010
TN saves paper with their playslips.

They're so thin and flimsy they're practically see-through.

Ohio did the same thing, if you use a marker to mark your play slips and they are stacked the ink bleed through and leaves the slip below it unusable.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Harbinger

Maryland
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Feb 15, 2010, 8:23 pm

Quote: Originally posted by four4me on Feb 14, 2010
for example if i played 123 -- 10 times i would want separate tickets. If you chose to cash a ticket that had 123 printed on it 10 times you'd be paying tax on an otherwise tax free ticket if they were purchased individually.

Excellent point! They save on paper work by not taxing those individual tix. It is costlier for the state to PAY the salaries of state tax collectors than the time it takes to chase down the little >$600 (less than) taxables. The state would rather just give you the money to spend on the local economy or re-gamble the money.

But these SOB statists are a petty greedy bunch, remember when Bonus Match 5 was "taxes paid"? No mas! WHY YOU ASK? A taxi driver down in Bethesda MD. hit the BM5 6 times straight or more and they had to pay the taxes on a couple hundred thousand, the next week it was back to

YOU PAY THE TAXES!

Statist A$$hole$!

I stopped playing BM5 for more than $2 anymore.

FJB

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