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Just to show you that a Rich Person & You are NOT on the same heel in gambling..

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Posted: March 24, 2010, 5:49 am - IP Logged

You bet and bet and bet suffering time after time and probably NEVER win something like: $25,000...

A rich person HOWEVER can place: 2 million in the bank at: 5% (if they give that anymore) and receive: 100,000 per year, basically put his money on hold...

That´s almost: $300 PER DAY...What if you play 1 number that you know does play every year...It doesnt matter if it plays in february or november....When it plays...that´s $300 x $5,000 = 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS...Better than ANY Stock Market strategy out there...

1.5 Million x 10 years = $15 million...Megamillion starting jackpot, WITHOUT THE HASSLE...And got back his: $2 million that he had in the bank...Now suppose he had: not $100,000 but $200,000...in 10 years it will had been: $30 million dollars...In 20 years: 60 million dollars...Just like winning Powerball WITHOUT THE HASSLE...

Not just that he/she could do it with Pick3...Find a number that will play: 4 or 6 times a year: $500 x $300 = $150,000 x 6 times = $900,000, almost: 1 million dollars in 1 year: 10 million in 10 years, had she/he had: $200K it will had been: 40 million in 20 years...Better than owning a small bussiness...the only problem is taxes...

this just PROVES that you are not in the same level as a rich person in gambling....

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    You bet and bet and bet suffering time after time and probably NEVER win something like: $25,000...

    A rich person HOWEVER can place: 2 million in the bank at: 5% (if they give that anymore) and receive: 100,000 per year, basically put his money on hold...

    That´s almost: $300 PER DAY...What if you play 1 number that you know does play every year...It doesnt matter if it plays in february or november....When it plays...that´s $300 x $5,000 = 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS...Better than ANY Stock Market strategy out there...

    1.5 Million x 10 years = $15 million...Megamillion starting jackpot, WITHOUT THE HASSLE...And got back his: $2 million that he had in the bank...Now suppose he had: not $100,000 but $200,000...in 10 years it will had been: $30 million dollars...In 20 years: 60 million dollars...Just like winning Powerball WITHOUT THE HASSLE...

    Not just that he/she could do it with Pick3...Find a number that will play: 4 or 6 times a year: $500 x $300 = $150,000 x 6 times = $900,000, almost: 1 million dollars in 1 year: 10 million in 10 years, had she/he had: $200K it will had been: 40 million in 20 years...Better than owning a small bussiness...the only problem is taxes...

    this just PROVES that you are not in the same level as a rich person in gambling....

    pumpi, the games are all the same and it is the money which separates one player from another. Also, it's a combination of "how much" as well as "how" to spend a certain amount of money on a particular game. Yeah, if you have more you can do more but, you must also start somewhere "reasonable" in terms of investment vs. odds of winning.

    All the big time guys didn't always have the money they have now and you better believe that! But, I guarantee that if you could ask a couple of them, they'd tell you it costed them just to get to where they are. Players must realize that it costs to be successful and it's better to save up enough money in order to implement a given strategy at least a couple of times for a win.

    The operative word here is "opportunities". You'll never see a professional gambler hit a casino and put up all their money in one sitting. The idea is to have enough paper to play on best odds of winning (covered bets) until you hit. At this point, having your method fine tuned to where the win recovers your money and produces profit to cover, or at least partially cover the next bet.

    In the end, opportunities present the win providing you're investing enough money the right way. The games could care less if a bum or one of the best players around is up to bat. It's the strategy around the money that connects with the win.

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      You bet and bet and bet suffering time after time and probably NEVER win something like: $25,000...

      A rich person HOWEVER can place: 2 million in the bank at: 5% (if they give that anymore) and receive: 100,000 per year, basically put his money on hold...

      That´s almost: $300 PER DAY...What if you play 1 number that you know does play every year...It doesnt matter if it plays in february or november....When it plays...that´s $300 x $5,000 = 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS...Better than ANY Stock Market strategy out there...

      1.5 Million x 10 years = $15 million...Megamillion starting jackpot, WITHOUT THE HASSLE...And got back his: $2 million that he had in the bank...Now suppose he had: not $100,000 but $200,000...in 10 years it will had been: $30 million dollars...In 20 years: 60 million dollars...Just like winning Powerball WITHOUT THE HASSLE...

      Not just that he/she could do it with Pick3...Find a number that will play: 4 or 6 times a year: $500 x $300 = $150,000 x 6 times = $900,000, almost: 1 million dollars in 1 year: 10 million in 10 years, had she/he had: $200K it will had been: 40 million in 20 years...Better than owning a small bussiness...the only problem is taxes...

      this just PROVES that you are not in the same level as a rich person in gambling....

      Pumpi, when you have goo-gabs of bucks!! The last place you are going to risk hundreds of thousands of Dollars is in the Lottery!!! Why? Men and Women who are Millionaires may buy or spend 50 to 100 dollars trying to get the Big Jackpot, but you know what? It is highly unlikely that they will put 100,000 dollars! because there is a great possibility that they will lose it!!!

      With that amount of money they become a "One person Mass" is no different than the hundred thousands of individuals that play and dont win!!

      One hundred thousand Persons playing across the country paying $1.00, and not win the Jackpot, is the same as one person spending one hundred thousand dollars and not win the Jackpot. 

      They may get a lot of 3, and 4 numbers numbers out of the 6 and like the individuals who played, not see one ticket with 5 out of the 6, therefore no return on their hundred thousand Invested!! 

      So Yes, even if what you are saying is true, that they have the advantage of the Dollars, we are in the same boat with the Twist and the turns, the up and the down of those balls that have been set to come out!  They have cero advantage there!!! 

      I don't know a Lot of Millionaires, but being in the Film Industry has afforded me to know a couple, and I told your hypothesis to one! and he said and I quote "Put my money on Lottery???!!  Why???!!!"   I rest my case!

      forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

      Now, does it count??

       

       

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        Pumpi, when you have goo-gabs of bucks!! The last place you are going to risk hundreds of thousands of Dollars is in the Lottery!!! Why? Men and Women who are Millionaires may buy or spend 50 to 100 dollars trying to get the Big Jackpot, but you know what? It is highly unlikely that they will put 100,000 dollars! because there is a great possibility that they will lose it!!!

        With that amount of money they become a "One person Mass" is no different than the hundred thousands of individuals that play and dont win!!

        One hundred thousand Persons playing across the country paying $1.00, and not win the Jackpot, is the same as one person spending one hundred thousand dollars and not win the Jackpot. 

        They may get a lot of 3, and 4 numbers numbers out of the 6 and like the individuals who played, not see one ticket with 5 out of the 6, therefore no return on their hundred thousand Invested!! 

        So Yes, even if what you are saying is true, that they have the advantage of the Dollars, we are in the same boat with the Twist and the turns, the up and the down of those balls that have been set to come out!  They have cero advantage there!!! 

        I don't know a Lot of Millionaires, but being in the Film Industry has afforded me to know a couple, and I told your hypothesis to one! and he said and I quote "Put my money on Lottery???!!  Why???!!!"   I rest my case!

        One hundred thousand Persons playing across the country paying $1.00, and not win the Jackpot, is the same as one person spending one hundred thousand dollars and not win the Jackpot. 

         

        Okay, rosie. Now, you know I like you lot and agree on most everything we touch base on but, I must disagree with the above statement. (100,000) people spending ($1) dollar and (1) person spending ($100,000) on the Jackpot is VASTLY different, and, that $100,000 has a very good chance of hitting provided the combinations are arranged properly.

        Though it would be very tiresome and tideous...and maybe impossible to gather all those tickets (LOL), the chances would be very decent. Yeah, it only takes $1 to win but, if you've put that many numbers on it and they're arranged properly, might just get that big CHA-CHING!!!! No guarantee...we're simply talking total combinations played for the dollar. I'm sure you'll understand where I'm coming from.

        You know, there's a great article on the internet regarding the very same thing and I'll try to find it. A huge group of investors, I believe, spent tons of money and won a Jackpot twice!!!! It was soon outlawed to do such a thing...I'm not kidding you. I'll do my best to find the article, and, someone else in the forums may be familiar with what I'm talking about here. Todd might even know something.

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          One hundred thousand Persons playing across the country paying $1.00, and not win the Jackpot, is the same as one person spending one hundred thousand dollars and not win the Jackpot. 

           

          Okay, rosie. Now, you know I like you lot and agree on most everything we touch base on but, I must disagree with the above statement. (100,000) people spending ($1) dollar and (1) person spending ($100,000) on the Jackpot is VASTLY different, and, that $100,000 has a very good chance of hitting provided the combinations are arranged properly.

          Though it would be very tiresome and tideous...and maybe impossible to gather all those tickets (LOL), the chances would be very decent. Yeah, it only takes $1 to win but, if you've put that many numbers on it and they're arranged properly, might just get that big CHA-CHING!!!! No guarantee...we're simply talking total combinations played for the dollar. I'm sure you'll understand where I'm coming from.

          You know, there's a great article on the internet regarding the very same thing and I'll try to find it. A huge group of investors, I believe, spent tons of money and won a Jackpot twice!!!! It was soon outlawed to do such a thing...I'm not kidding you. I'll do my best to find the article, and, someone else in the forums may be familiar with what I'm talking about here. Todd might even know something.

          L.L.

          Okay Lucky, I understand what you said, but you are using words like "arranged properly" those are the conditions that has to be added to their 100,000 thousand dollars, in other words they would still need the "properly arranged" digits!! other than that, they are gambleing just like all the others!!!

          forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

          Now, does it count??

           

           

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            A huge group of investors, I believe, spent tons of money and won a Jackpot twice!!!! It was soon outlawed to do such a thing...

             

            It's not against the law to spend millions of dollars playing a lottery, it just doesn't make sense.  The investment group that did that years ago in Virgina were trying to buy all the possible combinations in three days by controlling lottery terminals at three SevenEleven stores.  They managed to buy only 8.5M of the ~10M combinations but that was enough to include the winning combination and win the jackpot which was more than they spent. They were lucky that they didn't have to split it with another winner.

            What states made illegal was a player or group controlling a lottery terminal longer than 20 minutes if other player wanted to play.  Lottery game matrix since have changed that their jackpot value seldom exceed the odds of winning.  Besides, now the rules and drawings frequencies make it more difficult for a group to play all the possible combinations between drawings.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              <snip>, that's what I call serious lottery players :)

               

              They were very lucky thought.

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                A huge group of investors, I believe, spent tons of money and won a Jackpot twice!!!! It was soon outlawed to do such a thing...

                 

                It's not against the law to spend millions of dollars playing a lottery, it just doesn't make sense.  The investment group that did that years ago in Virgina were trying to buy all the possible combinations in three days by controlling lottery terminals at three SevenEleven stores.  They managed to buy only 8.5M of the ~10M combinations but that was enough to include the winning combination and win the jackpot which was more than they spent. They were lucky that they didn't have to split it with another winner.

                What states made illegal was a player or group controlling a lottery terminal longer than 20 minutes if other player wanted to play.  Lottery game matrix since have changed that their jackpot value seldom exceed the odds of winning.  Besides, now the rules and drawings frequencies make it more difficult for a group to play all the possible combinations between drawings.

                Well, I'm glad you managed to clear it up better than I could...and thanks.  However, in the sense that it costs money to make money...they did, in fact, MAKE $1.5M IN PROFIT. They got their investment back and had money to whatever they so desired.

                To them, it did makes sense to spend the money. If you're gonna do it then do it right is what I say...so long as you have it to do it with. Them doing what they did is like when I used to go and spend $300-$400 to obtain my str8 hits and make profit. It may have only been $100-$200 in profit but, I did what needed to be done to make the money.

                Call me crazy...even a lunatic!! Call them crazy...lunatics even!! In the end, money is made over and over. If they could do it again, I promise you they would. I still do...

                Again, good post, RJ.

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                  Of course rich people are on a different playing field when it comes to gambling, when they gamble they just call it derivitives and credit default swaps.

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                    A huge group of investors, I believe, spent tons of money and won a Jackpot twice!!!! It was soon outlawed to do such a thing...

                     

                    It's not against the law to spend millions of dollars playing a lottery, it just doesn't make sense.  The investment group that did that years ago in Virgina were trying to buy all the possible combinations in three days by controlling lottery terminals at three SevenEleven stores.  They managed to buy only 8.5M of the ~10M combinations but that was enough to include the winning combination and win the jackpot which was more than they spent. They were lucky that they didn't have to split it with another winner.

                    What states made illegal was a player or group controlling a lottery terminal longer than 20 minutes if other player wanted to play.  Lottery game matrix since have changed that their jackpot value seldom exceed the odds of winning.  Besides, now the rules and drawings frequencies make it more difficult for a group to play all the possible combinations between drawings.

                    After more thinking, I decided to piggy back myself concerning one more thing. You mentioned controlling the lottery terminals. This is just another way for the state(s) to maintain a tight reign on wins through spending in relation to time. What I'm getting at is they could incorporate a way to actually play online, legally, with the state and provide legitimate tickets.

                    They won't, though, because it will allow for "fine tuned" combinations instead of tons of QP's which would produce more and consistent wins...be it str8 or boxed. A player could purchase as many tickets as they'd like in the privacy of their home instead of waiting in line to only play a few lines and ultimately "settle" on the inconvenience of the system as a whole.

                    Trust me, they have it figured out. There are lots of players that, if playing the state online was a go, would win quite regularly...and big I might. They are well aware of this idea but, I just don't think it will ever become a reality due to increased payouts and the frequencies thereof. Only if...

                     

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                      I used to go and spend $300-$400 to obtain my str8 hits and make profit. It may have only been $100-$200 in profit...

                      Sounds like you had a winning system, why did you stop using it?

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                        I used to go and spend $300-$400 to obtain my str8 hits and make profit. It may have only been $100-$200 in profit...

                        Sounds like you had a winning system, why did you stop using it?

                        Thats what i wanna know.....

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                          I used to go and spend $300-$400 to obtain my str8 hits and make profit. It may have only been $100-$200 in profit...

                          Sounds like you had a winning system, why did you stop using it?

                          Oh, I haven't stopped using it all. I just found somewhere better to play with better payouts...through a hook up. Trust me, I'm not the type to fix what's not broken. I just maintain it very well. Thanks for asking!!

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                            Thats what i wanna know.....

                            ...See my reply to RJOh.


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                              Of course rich people are on a different playing field when it comes to gambling, when they gamble they just call it derivitives and credit default swaps.

                              And when they lose the bet, the tax payers pay for it.

                              Watch 'Fall of the Republic"......http://www.lotterypost.com/blog/77162