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Posted: March 31, 2010, 7:48 pm - IP Logged

Does anyone else find it odd that MO Pick 4 has never drawn a quad in the last 6 years (since going computer drawn) in the midday or evening game?

I questioned them once about it and they assured me that the quads were turned on in their program.

I emailed them back and said, that is what TN told their lottery players when there were no doubles for months

when their Pick 3 game went to computer drawings and then finally had to admit there was a problem with their program.

I got no response to that email.

6 years and no quad of any kind. Is that still in the range of normal?

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    Posted: March 31, 2010, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

    Here  in Ohio it took from 4/9/1981 to 7/7/1990 for them to pull the first Quad 6666. And we use ball machines. So 6 years seems to be a little short.

    Good Luck Libra Dave

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      Posted: March 31, 2010, 8:20 pm - IP Logged

      Here  in Ohio it took from 4/9/1981 to 7/7/1990 for them to pull the first Quad 6666. And we use ball machines. So 6 years seems to be a little short.

      Good Luck Libra Dave

       Hey Dave thanks for the reply.

      But best I can tell, OH didn't start their midday game until 1999. So you went from 81 to 90 (9 years) on a single drawing schedule. Where we have had both drawing for the last 6 years, if I have that figured correctly. MO 6 years of double drawings, is the same as 12 years of OH single drawing. So even by OH standards we should have had one already. 

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        Posted: April 1, 2010, 12:15 am - IP Logged

        Does anyone else find it odd that MO Pick 4 has never drawn a quad in the last 6 years (since going computer drawn) in the midday or evening game?

        I questioned them once about it and they assured me that the quads were turned on in their program.

        I emailed them back and said, that is what TN told their lottery players when there were no doubles for months

        when their Pick 3 game went to computer drawings and then finally had to admit there was a problem with their program.

        I got no response to that email.

        6 years and no quad of any kind. Is that still in the range of normal?

        Based on probabilities: out of 1000 draws we should theoretically expect:

        504 non-repeat numbers (50.40%)

        432 doubles (43.20%)

        27 double-doubles (2.70%)

        36 triples (3.6%)

        1 quadruple (0.1%)

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          Based on probabilities: out of 1000 draws we should theoretically expect:

          504 non-repeat numbers (50.40%)

          432 doubles (43.20%)

          27 double-doubles (2.70%)

          36 triples (3.6%)

          1 quadruple (0.1%)

          Thank you Raven.

          So with the 4146 drawings we have had since the computer took over drawing the Pick 4 for us, we "statistically" should have had 4 quads already.

          That sounds more like it to me. At this point, I would be happy with one or two just to know it is possible.

          I am still not convinced they don't have them shut off just to avoid the massive hit a quad  puts on the lottery's wallet.

          What better way to avoid a massive payout than to shut off something that rarely comes anyway.

          It would be so hard to prove one way or the other, and it wouldn't come into question much due to the rarity of the situation.

          hmmm...Ponder

             

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            Posted: April 1, 2010, 7:10 am - IP Logged

            computerized and non computerized lotteries have certain patterns and leave out numbers for years.

            washington dc has not had 321X straight for any number since 2003 but is has had quads.

            i would think that 321X straight is less rare than a quad but the programming in the dc lottery does not agree.

             

            why has not 5393,5343,5342 not shown up straight in any state since 2007 but every other sequence of

            53X3 has shown up multiple times.  each lottery for each state has its own range for what is normal. best of

            luck with the quads.

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              Posted: April 1, 2010, 7:35 am - IP Logged

              computerized and non computerized lotteries have certain patterns and leave out numbers for years.

              washington dc has not had 321X straight for any number since 2003 but is has had quads.

              i would think that 321X straight is less rare than a quad but the programming in the dc lottery does not agree.

               

              why has not 5393,5343,5342 not shown up straight in any state since 2007 but every other sequence of

              53X3 has shown up multiple times.  each lottery for each state has its own range for what is normal. best of

              luck with the quads.

              Wow! Now that is some major serious tracking.

              Well done. I may to re-evaluate what I am considering overdue.

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                Posted: April 1, 2010, 8:06 am - IP Logged

                thanks D A you are one of the people i learned from.

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                  Posted: April 1, 2010, 8:22 am - IP Logged

                  Wow! Now that is some major serious tracking.

                  Well done. I may to re-evaluate what I am considering overdue.

                  Pretty straight-forward to find using LP's Lottery Results Search Engine.

                   

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                    Posted: April 1, 2010, 8:59 am - IP Logged

                    could not do it without you todd but most people do not have the time it takes to do the research to find the patterns .

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                      Posted: April 1, 2010, 10:03 am - IP Logged

                      Does anyone else find it odd that MO Pick 4 has never drawn a quad in the last 6 years (since going computer drawn) in the midday or evening game?

                      I questioned them once about it and they assured me that the quads were turned on in their program.

                      I emailed them back and said, that is what TN told their lottery players when there were no doubles for months

                      when their Pick 3 game went to computer drawings and then finally had to admit there was a problem with their program.

                      I got no response to that email.

                      6 years and no quad of any kind. Is that still in the range of normal?

                      Dead Aim..can you get an OFFICIAL PRE-TEST draw list from your state past 6 years..I would like to know  if a QUAD has hit there but you the players couldnt catch it because those draws dont count..but would have counted if they were not tampering with the draws..I would almost be willing to bet that there is more than one in there...!!!!

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                        Posted: April 1, 2010, 10:06 am - IP Logged

                        Don't really find this to odd yet D_A,

                           NJ didn't have a quad until 6 yrs after it's inceptionm then there was a time none showed for 9 yrs from 1992 to 2001, so all in all not to odd  yet...!

                                                                     

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                          Posted: April 1, 2010, 11:27 am - IP Logged

                          Thanks everyone for all the info.

                          LB, I doubt very seriously that they keep any official public record of the pretest/post-test draws they do before and after the actual drawing, but I could ask.

                          It would be a 50/50 chance on getting any info from them, sometimes they answer questions you have and sometimes they don't.

                          Even when they are not accusatory. Wink

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                            Posted: April 1, 2010, 2:18 pm - IP Logged

                            Thanks everyone for all the info.

                            LB, I doubt very seriously that they keep any official public record of the pretest/post-test draws they do before and after the actual drawing, but I could ask.

                            It would be a 50/50 chance on getting any info from them, sometimes they answer questions you have and sometimes they don't.

                            Even when they are not accusatory. Wink

                            I think they have to Tennessee does . I got a print out of all pretest draws a while back had to go to the lottery office to pick it up they wouldnt mail it to much postage I got them for like one year dont know if they keep them past that or not.I was angry about double ones not falling its amazing how many times they fell in pretest drawings Tn  has 3 before each drawing and 3 after each drawing so thats 6 extra each day makes it hard to track unless you have daily access.


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                              I think they have to Tennessee does . I got a print out of all pretest draws a while back had to go to the lottery office to pick it up they wouldnt mail it to much postage I got them for like one year dont know if they keep them past that or not.I was angry about double ones not falling its amazing how many times they fell in pretest drawings Tn  has 3 before each drawing and 3 after each drawing so thats 6 extra each day makes it hard to track unless you have daily access.

                              i never knew this, i am so shocked, i know i shouldn't be but that could explain alot of numbers that go so overdue.  tennessee has only had 1 quad since the beginning and it was on evening 1111.   kid