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(Fraud) Examine Scratchers for removed latex

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Posted: April 2, 2010, 3:49 am - IP Logged

What?Be sure to closely examine your Scratchers when you buy them. You should look for any pinned areas. If its pinned, it is likely the Scratcher is a loser. The area pinned may not be obvious unless you look very closely. Make sure the clerk or owner pulls Scratchers from the dispenser and not some side drawer or pile. Make sure the Scratchers are in sequence if buying the same game. If you leave the store and don't notice the pinning until later, preserve the Scratcher as evidence. Report any such activity to the lottery commission so they can investigate. 

When checking winners, utilize the self check terminal to check for winners and always sign the back of any winning Scratcher. If you have a clerk scan your Scratcher, watch the LCD display for the winning amount and get a claim receipt. Be sure they pay you the right amount and not short change you. Don't be duped. If you are cheated, don't leave, call the police or the lottery.  Caifornia Lottery 1-800-lottery.

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    What?Be sure to closely examine your Scratchers when you buy them. You should look for any pinned areas. If its pinned, it is likely the Scratcher is a loser. The area pinned may not be obvious unless you look very closely. Make sure the clerk or owner pulls Scratchers from the dispenser and not some side drawer or pile. Make sure the Scratchers are in sequence if buying the same game. If you leave the store and don't notice the pinning until later, preserve the Scratcher as evidence. Report any such activity to the lottery commission so they can investigate. 

    When checking winners, utilize the self check terminal to check for winners and always sign the back of any winning Scratcher. If you have a clerk scan your Scratcher, watch the LCD display for the winning amount and get a claim receipt. Be sure they pay you the right amount and not short change you. Don't be duped. If you are cheated, don't leave, call the police or the lottery.  Caifornia Lottery 1-800-lottery.

    jbt8, what do you mean by "pinned"?What?

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      What?To clarify Pinning, also known as micro pinning, pre-checking, micro scratching, etc, is when the latex is removed from the front of the Scratcher or the play area, exposing the (3) digit code. Clerks and retailers need this code in order to check the Scratcher to see if its a winner. If the Scratcher is a winner, they obviously cash it for themselves and sell the losers back to the public. What the consumer needs to be aware of is this micro pinning (removal of latex) exposing the (3) digit code. If you note any latex missing and see any exposed numbers, becareful. If you confront the clerk or owner about this, the typical answer is that the dispenser removed some latex when the Scratcher was being pulled out of the dispensor. Don't except this canned answer. Demand a new Scratcher and report the store to the lottery. 1-800-Lottery California.

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        What?To clarify Pinning, also known as micro pinning, pre-checking, micro scratching, etc, is when the latex is removed from the front of the Scratcher or the play area, exposing the (3) digit code. Clerks and retailers need this code in order to check the Scratcher to see if its a winner. If the Scratcher is a winner, they obviously cash it for themselves and sell the losers back to the public. What the consumer needs to be aware of is this micro pinning (removal of latex) exposing the (3) digit code. If you note any latex missing and see any exposed numbers, becareful. If you confront the clerk or owner about this, the typical answer is that the dispenser removed some latex when the Scratcher was being pulled out of the dispensor. Don't except this canned answer. Demand a new Scratcher and report the store to the lottery. 1-800-Lottery California.

        It wouldn't do much good to pin the code used by the clerks to check the tickets cause as soon as that code is entered in a terminal, the ticket is invalidated as it then becomes the store's responsibility to pay out the prize.   They would be better off pinning the two dimensional barcode which can be scanned at the selfscan station without invalidating the ticket but of course that involves removing much more of the latex rather then just scratching a line to guess what the numbers are.   If they kept using their terminal to scan the pinned tickets, the pattern would be picked up at the central office and they would be investigated.   Also, the accounting rules for the stores are very strict and requires that they sell the tickets as they come out of the pack and to not detach them for display.   The stores are regularly investigated and store clerks are regularly investigated if they claim any prizes.   Of course, there's always the chance that a given store clerk is unscrupulous so you should be careful.   If the clerk is selling you tickets that have already been detached then he's breaking the rules.

        I would demand my money back, there's plenty of other stores to buy lottery tickets from.

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          What?Be sure to closely examine your Scratchers when you buy them. You should look for any pinned areas. If its pinned, it is likely the Scratcher is a loser. The area pinned may not be obvious unless you look very closely. Make sure the clerk or owner pulls Scratchers from the dispenser and not some side drawer or pile. Make sure the Scratchers are in sequence if buying the same game. If you leave the store and don't notice the pinning until later, preserve the Scratcher as evidence. Report any such activity to the lottery commission so they can investigate. 

          When checking winners, utilize the self check terminal to check for winners and always sign the back of any winning Scratcher. If you have a clerk scan your Scratcher, watch the LCD display for the winning amount and get a claim receipt. Be sure they pay you the right amount and not short change you. Don't be duped. If you are cheated, don't leave, call the police or the lottery.  Caifornia Lottery 1-800-lottery.

          Scratch-Off Ticket Fraud can be nonintrusive and undetectable:

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/207449/1527430

          A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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            Scratch-Off Ticket Fraud can be nonintrusive and undetectable:

            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/207449/1527430

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            Did you verify that with wikipedia Raven? LOL. I hate when that happens!


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

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