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Posted: April 13, 2010, 2:57 pm - IP Logged

I need something explained to me based on "visualization" and the "law of attraction"..Can negativity still exist in visualization and the positive event still occur?

I mainly think in analytical ways, but I do know of some things that have occurred in my life that I had no control over, but through some kind of visualization, they came true.

Here they are:

1.) I did really well in high school, but struggled quite a bit in college where I was either going to quit or be thrown out.  I studied hard, but no matter, it never seemed enough. In front of me was the reality of failure, somewhere in my mind there was no option to fail, even though it everything I did seemed to go wrong.  I developed a severe case of test anxiety. One day something clicked and I started to do well and made Dean's List. I did well enough that I ended up going to Grad school, finishing my coursework in 2 semesters (4 hours of sleep a night).  I went from almost flunking out to Grad school. Oddly, I never took for granted that I would always be successful....so there was still some "negativity"

2.)I was in a job that I hated 12 years ago. It was stressful but I could not quit (I worked there from 1996 to 1999)....I simply don't quit something. I sent out resumes every week, went to my miserable job. It was truly depressing. Visually, my family could see that I was miserable, and waking up was difficult to do. My family would always say that "you'll never get even close to what you want because you think negative."  I would counter that I had to be realistic and not get my hopes up so much that I come crashing down.  MY job was so bad that Fridays I was happy, but by Sunday night, I felt like total garbage.  Somewhere in the back of my mind, I kept thinking that things would get better.  I just did not know how. Eventually, I was called about a job in November of 1998 and began an interview process that went into January (the company was making sure that the budget was finalized for the new year).   ALthough I felt good about my interviews, I reasoned that until I signed on the dotted line, I should not get my hopes up.  January 8, 1999 I was let go at my old job. I felt relief, but the new job still wasn't mine yet, so I still felt unsettled.  As if that weren't enough, my car was acting up (major electrical problems).  Needless to say, I drove through a Noreaster on Saturday to be at what I was hoping my last interview in my truck (which broke down after I got home).  I did get the job and a dramatic increase in pay that enabled me to get a newer car and by a house later that year. 

3.)For many years, I always felt that I would have 3 boys. Two that would be less than 2 years apart and a third a couple of years later than that. You can't control the gender of your kids although you do have a 50-50 shot at one or the other.  For a while, it seemed like it would never happen when everyone around us was having kids.

4.) The dream job that I once had started to go south a few years back. New management came in and it started to go down hill.  There were "shifty" things that were going on. My clients were getting uneasy about the accountability.  I stayed close to the clients and tried to distance myself from management, even though it might have cost me my job. I felt like I was on the firing line.  Because I stayed close to the client, my "allegience" to the company was questioned.....I alway felt that it was the client who ultimately paid the bills. Despite the sick feeling I had when I went to work, I put on the brave face, did my job, feeling that something was going to get better, not knowing how or when. Knowing the uphill battle, I had my doubts all the time, but deep down I knew that something positive would happen.  On the outside, my family saw negativity, and I felt it because I was a realist.  Eventually the new job and better pay did happen.  I really did not have any control over getting the new job.  Alot of other things were going on in my life that weren't so great and it had dampened the effect of the new job so that I really can't take it for granted.

 For a long time(even before all of the events listed above), I felt that I was going to hit it big in the lottery.  It is something there, I have always felt it but can't explain it.  Right now would be the best time as any...(too long to explain).  As a realist, I know the odds of having all the right numbers. Because of this, I am a little gun shy about spending even a dollar for a chance to win (yeah, I know, what's a dollar?).  On the surface, I feel like it is an impossibility more than just a long shot, but something is telling me that it will happen.  Last August, I had a free ticket, played a 5/43 game whose jackpot was $850,000.  I hit 4 out of 5 numbers, winning $300.  When I saw that I had 4 of 5, I was calm, very calm....and grateful.  I didn't feel that was my "turn" because my thought about the "big one" is that I would win in a state that would allow me to claim anonymously. I have visualized the actual drive to claim as well as the building.  It would be an upper mid-range jackpot in Mega or Powerball meaning that it would not be a recordbreaker, but it would not be the lowest "reset" amount after a win. The winning would come at a time when it would be most needed. 

I have seen all of this "talk" about visualization not having any negative thoughts associated with it.  I have had many positive things happen in my life, but I am rooted in reality and reality can be negative. My family always says that I am a pessimist and negative. I tend to think that I am a realist and that negativity is part of the reality.  Can anybody share some positive visualization where the odds were stacked and alot of negative "forces"(for lack of a better term) existed all around? 

As somebody that is more analytical, I see lotteries as a game of chance with odds against any player, but I do see where other things happen that better somebody's situation....even with improbable odds.

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    Posted: April 13, 2010, 8:41 pm - IP Logged

    My experiences with visualization were always accompanied by a catalyst - me. I would visualize things I wanted to happen and I "knew" they would but I also made every effort to make sure they did. How that applies or can be applied to the lottery is anybody's guess.

    I'm not totally convinced on the merits of visualization or the law of attraction. I'm open to the possibility that it can work for some people though.

    My own mother was convinced all her life that she would die young and had accepted it and was expecting it. She's 93 now and doesn't even need glasses (she drinks straight from the bottle). (That last part was a joke). But she still believes and tells everyone that this is her last year and she just keeps on tickin'. How would that fit in with the law of attraction or visualization? She truly expects to die every year! 93 now! She's had this feeling since she was a kid.

    But as I said I'm open to the possibility that it works for some people so hopefully it will for you. You sound like a nice person with a good heart so I hope it works out for you. Good luck!


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

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      I just know what I have read and most of it is BS. However visualization and the law of attraction happen all the time...like you mentioned with some of the little things that happen because you want them to. I have seen things happen in my life because of visualization and the law of attraction...even though at the time I wasn't aware it was happening...but looking back I know it to be true. Being negative doesn't help and even a little negativity can alter what you want and mess things up after you get it. One think you have to remember is not to think about what you want after you decided that you want it...it's hard but once you have your heart set on something...then let it go and carry on with your business...I have wanted to hit the jackpot for a very long time...I never cared for the lottery but I saw some stuff one day and thought maybe I can win too. I have my mind set on a certain amount and I see other things I want lining up...I really feel I am going to win soon. I just know I am going to win or I will die trying.

      Being negative is a choice and it has nothing to do with being a realist...you need to look for the good in your life and focus on that...unless your just being cynical...having a realistic view isn't bad...but some see the impossible as realistic...like athletes, musicians, artists...anyone who has been a success in life.

      Bottom line I know what I want and I will get it...one way or another.

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        This is realted to trying to use the law of attraction and visulaization to produce a lotto hit, a jackpot, for one self.

        In a book about angels, the author mentioned people praying to angels for some help in bringing about a lottery win. The angel's, all angels, reaction to this is that they will not get involved in it because for any given drawing you have millions of people praying to various angels for the same thing.

        So instead of the angels all deciding on which angel is going to help someone in winning a jackpot they just stay ouf of it.

        Anytime anyone prays for themself to win a jackpot, or tries to visualize the winning numbers, or use the law of attraction to bring about a jackpot they are in essence trying to shut every one else out of one.

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

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        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          Exactly. For me to win...someone else has to lose...that is how life is...I have no problems with that. There are a lot of things other people have to get shut out of in order for someone else to obtain...that's life...it doesn't mean someone will never get what they truly want in time.

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            Posted: April 15, 2010, 2:21 am - IP Logged

            THRUST,

            You've got it...but considering hitting a lottery jackpot not only someone else has to lose but everyone else has to lose (unless a person is one of those rare souls who prays for someone else hitting too, because the jackpot amount is "obscene").

            Somehow it seems to smack of bad karma if someone is trying to bring in the cosmos to hit a solo jackpot in the hundreds of millions.

            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

            Lep

            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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              I always hope that everyone can get a little piece of the pie. $200,000-250,000---$1,000,000 or $12,000,000-$20,000,000 can do alot of good for someone. The jackpot amount is what it is. I also think if the right person and let me say who knows what that really means...can do alot of good with a jackpot in the 100's of millions...of course a winner might not do anything good with that amount...but that is on them. I just know what I want, what I am going to do and I know a win like that would only be for the good of others...not just me or my family. The lottery is a fun game with very serious implications...for right now...everyone needs to have fun playing...not take it so serious...it only becomes serious when you hit...but you can still have fun with that too. Smiley

              I also see it...if someone wins...we all win because we are all connected. Thumbs Up

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                I have a blog post about the ability to attract prosperity. It is  a synopsis, not as detailed as my prosperity recording I use. When I use the exercize I win, my health is better, and I make better decisions. I toyed with the idea of posting part of it here.  Since I am currently attracting to myself some stressfree, relaxing time I will just mention the blog post for anyone interested, and hope it is of some help to someone.

                 

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                  Thanks for your comments everyone.

                   

                  The visualization is something that I have "felt" or imagined a long time ago.... It wasn't something that I have wished for (although it would be nice), I don't dwell on it unless I ask myself should I buy a ticket today or not?  Even in the best times,I still felt that there was going to be a win, but it had to be when it was needed the most.  At those times I didn't play.   I have read all of the horror stories and the success stories, so it seems like when I had come close in the past, I wasn't ready and accept that. 

                  I guess the "negativity" is such that I am not one to get my hopes up to a point where there is a big disappointment. In each of the past "visualizations" I knew that there weren't guarantees and that my expectations of something positive were tempered by reality.  When I came close, hitting 4 out of 5...the clerk who paid out the winnings was more excited than I was.  I was grateful and humbled more than anything so I didn't do the "lottery dance" nor did I tell everyone.  My mom was the only one that knew.

                  As far as the attracting the lottery win for myself.....there are some pretty unimagineable things going on with people I care about that the timeliness matches the original "thought" of winning years ago (that it had to come at a time when it was most needed).  When I was at my old jobs, things were bad for me, but they didn't feel like what is going on now for the people I care about.  I don't even think I played.  I play sporadically now and again.

                   

                  I once played $5.00 in quarter slots at Foxwoods, I had this gut feeling I was going to win something. I walked out with $50.00 ( I cashed in and left, figuring why tempt fate, I made a good return on my $5.00)

                  The thoughts I have seem stronger than they have in the past, but I have excercised self restraint....I have a well thought out plan on how to claim, how to set up the investments, how much goes to whom etc.  There isn't an extravagant lifestyle that I want. I wish to stay in my home for many years.  I don't want my sons to be spoiled rich kids... If I bought a car, it may be a pre-owned luxury car or XUV..... depreciation in a new car is a bad investment. More than likely, I would keep the 2 -(11 yr old) cars that I have and get them detailed and just keep them running...I like them enough that I wouldn't want to get rid of them no matter how much money I won.

                  I would set up an account that would primarily be invested for current income that would donate to charities on an annual basis rather than make some large lump sum donation that is paid one time.  I have seen too many people do this because it is a good thing, but they have nothing to show for it because they gave too much.  I like the idea of the gift that keeps on giving.

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                    I have a blog post about the ability to attract prosperity. It is  a synopsis, not as detailed as my prosperity recording I use. When I use the exercize I win, my health is better, and I make better decisions. I toyed with the idea of posting part of it here.  Since I am currently attracting to myself some stressfree, relaxing time I will just mention the blog post for anyone interested, and hope it is of some help to someone.

                     

                    1521

                    I really enjoyed reading...thanks so much for sharing. 

                    Hope you have a blessed day! Smiley

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                      My experiences with visualization were always accompanied by a catalyst - me. I would visualize things I wanted to happen and I "knew" they would but I also made every effort to make sure they did. How that applies or can be applied to the lottery is anybody's guess.

                      I'm not totally convinced on the merits of visualization or the law of attraction. I'm open to the possibility that it can work for some people though.

                      My own mother was convinced all her life that she would die young and had accepted it and was expecting it. She's 93 now and doesn't even need glasses (she drinks straight from the bottle). (That last part was a joke). But she still believes and tells everyone that this is her last year and she just keeps on tickin'. How would that fit in with the law of attraction or visualization? She truly expects to die every year! 93 now! She's had this feeling since she was a kid.

                      But as I said I'm open to the possibility that it works for some people so hopefully it will for you. You sound like a nice person with a good heart so I hope it works out for you. Good luck!

                      rdgrnr:

                      Thanks for the kind words.  I am glad to see that your mother is still with you at 93.  My grandfather will be 94 in two weeks, God willing (he has some health issues that aren't really operable at his age.).... and I am grateful that he has been around to see my 3 sons and that they got to know their great grandfather.

                      I'm not an expert on this....

                      No matter how convinced she was of an early death, because she truly did not want an early death is why it did not happen?

                       

                      I guess I'll leave this question up to those who can better answer it.

                      You  also had mentioned that you were the catalyst in your visualizations..... I know that if I went along and said that I was going to win the lottery, but never played then I wasn't ensuring a chance to win.  This brings me to the part of the visualization where there is the most uncertainty: when to play an how much?  do I play a $1.00 or $5.00...I think anymore than that might be overkill, but then again who knows.

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                        It only takes $1...playing more really depends on if you can afford to or not. But $1-$5 is great if you are just doing QP's. Some people spend more to play numbers they wheeled...but that is something different. Sometimes it is habit to go to the store pick up a few items and grab a few tickets in the process...I use to do that...I never really thought about winning or not in those days and would either break even or get a few extra dollars out of it. I visualize amounts and things I truly want now...not a "jackpot". I play regardless...just because I find it fun.

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